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OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from yesteryear

with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results and

even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries without

luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death. I

think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would be

appreciated!

Jana

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In a message dated 2/5/01 9:05:29 AM Central Standard Time,

d.jackson@... writes:

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The way my week has gone.....it HAS to mean when your kids have atypical crap

and kill you by driving you crazy and lack of sleep, and crying, and etc.

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Jana, is there any possibility this could be a typo or, if handwritten,

a mis-reading of some letters? Sometimes they used to put very

weird things on death certificates, and this LOOKS like a typo of

" demobilization. " That STILL makes no sense as a cause of death

unless you think of it as possibly intending to mean they stopped

moving. Was this death certificate possibly signed by someone

other than an actual M.D.??? Probably far-fetched, but nothing

else is turning up, either.

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Jana:

Where in all that's holy do you come up with these things? I think that must

be some kind of Rigellian disease or something. I sure never heard of it.

Neither have any of the books in my reference library.

Dave

Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

> OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

yesteryear

> with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results

and

> even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries without

> luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death. I

> think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would

be

> appreciated!

> Jana

>

>

> _________________________________________________________

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Jana,

Dave's right, that must a be a very rare cause of death. I did a

search at the National Library of Medicine site and came up blank.

Since that's old terminology, anyone know an old doc they can

ask? Kudos to whoever figures it out.

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Jana:

Where in all that's holy do you come up with these things? I think that must

be some kind of Rigellian disease or something. I sure never heard of it.

Neither have any of the books in my reference library.

Dave

Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

> OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

yesteryear

> with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results

and

> even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries without

> luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death. I

> think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would

be

> appreciated!

> Jana

>

>

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As we all know, 1 letter can change a whole term, and I'm betting there is a

mispelled word there. I would be more curious to know if the death certificate

was typed or handwritten. I tried changing a few letters and still came up blank

though. But if you try and break the word down into medical terminology suffix's

and prefix's and root words, there is nothing that fits any body or organ

system.

Good luck to whoever figures it out

Kenita

" Barry D. Sharp " wrote:

> Jana,

>

> Dave's right, that must a be a very rare cause of death. I did a

> search at the National Library of Medicine site and came up blank.

> Since that's old terminology, anyone know an old doc they can

> ask? Kudos to whoever figures it out.

>

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>

> Date sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:02:55 -0600

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> Jana:

>

> Where in all that's holy do you come up with these things? I think that must

> be some kind of Rigellian disease or something. I sure never heard of it.

> Neither have any of the books in my reference library.

>

> Dave

> Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

>

> > OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

> yesteryear

> > with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results

> and

> > even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries without

> > luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death. I

> > think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would

> be

> > appreciated!

> > Jana

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________

> >

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My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please let me

know if you think that is a possibility.

Take care and I hope that this helps!

Trey Wood

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> Jana:

>

> Where in all that's holy do you come up with these things? I think that

must

> be some kind of Rigellian disease or something. I sure never heard of it.

> Neither have any of the books in my reference library.

>

> Dave

> Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

>

> > OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

> yesteryear

> > with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results

> and

> > even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries

without

> > luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death.

I

> > think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would

> be

> > appreciated!

> > Jana

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________

> >

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Break it down... :)

De-Mohili-za-tioa

It's the process of de-molehill-izing-ization, or making mountains into

molehills after someone has made a molehill into a mountain. Most likely,

this guy wandered up to someone in a bar who was ranting about some problem

with the government (when in reality his social security check was a day

late), and this guy tried to set him straight, at which point he was killed

for being one of the government agents.

It must be monday, my mind isn't wandering... it's running naked down the

street, far, far away from work!

Mike ;)

>

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>Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:40:55 -0600

>

>OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from yesteryear

>with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results

>and

>even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries without

>luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death. I

>think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would be

>appreciated!

>Jana

>

>

>_________________________________________________________

>

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Well, I guess you'd be pretty demobilized if you were dead

(children-of-the-night types excepted), but I've never heard it listed as a

cause of death. Why some politicians may have been dead all this time and we

didn't even notice it.

Dave

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> My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

> document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please let

me

> know if you think that is a possibility.

>

> Take care and I hope that this helps!

>

> Trey Wood

>

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I, uh, don't even want to ask if you mean " atypical crap " literally or

figuratively. If I remember right, your kiddos are young enough that it

could be either.

Dave

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> In a message dated 2/5/01 9:05:29 AM Central Standard Time,

> d.jackson@... writes:

>

>

> >

>

> The way my week has gone.....it HAS to mean when your kids have atypical

crap

> and kill you by driving you crazy and lack of sleep, and crying, and etc.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I collect old medical textbooks. In all of these, even one dated 1891, I could

not find anything of that nature. I did however find that a British text stated

that an ice water enema was one of the ways to determine death.

-aloha-

Mike

Dave wrote:

> Well, I guess you'd be pretty demobilized if you were dead

> (children-of-the-night types excepted), but I've never heard it listed as a

> cause of death. Why some politicians may have been dead all this time and we

> didn't even notice it.

>

> Dave

> RE: [texasems-L] An old medical term

>

> > My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

> > document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please let

> me

> > know if you think that is a possibility.

> >

> > Take care and I hope that this helps!

> >

> > Trey Wood

> >

>

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I am afraid to ask but (no pun intended), how in the heck did interpret the

" results " of that particular test?????? (I probably do not want to know!)

Steve Dralle, EMT-P

San , TX

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I collect old medical textbooks. In all of these, even one dated 1891, I

could

not find anything of that nature. I did however find that a British text

stated

that an ice water enema was one of the ways to determine death.

-aloha-

Mike

Dave wrote:

> Well, I guess you'd be pretty demobilized if you were dead

> (children-of-the-night types excepted), but I've never heard it listed as

a

> cause of death. Why some politicians may have been dead all this time and

we

> didn't even notice it.

>

> Dave

> RE: [texasems-L] An old medical term

>

> > My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

> > document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please let

> me

> > know if you think that is a possibility.

> >

> > Take care and I hope that this helps!

> >

> > Trey Wood

> >

>

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If you did'nt wake up and from the ice water enema and did'nt pass a few other

tests like breath fogging glass and a " sound breast beat " then you were dead.

However, it does go on to say that sometimes it takes several medical men to

determine death. My medical director said we could not use the ice water

thing...

" Dralle, Steve " wrote:

> I am afraid to ask but (no pun intended), how in the heck did interpret the

> " results " of that particular test?????? (I probably do not want to know!)

>

> Steve Dralle, EMT-P

> San , TX

>

> Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

>

> I collect old medical textbooks. In all of these, even one dated 1891, I

> could

> not find anything of that nature. I did however find that a British text

> stated

> that an ice water enema was one of the ways to determine death.

>

> -aloha-

> Mike

>

> Dave wrote:

>

> > Well, I guess you'd be pretty demobilized if you were dead

> > (children-of-the-night types excepted), but I've never heard it listed as

> a

> > cause of death. Why some politicians may have been dead all this time and

> we

> > didn't even notice it.

> >

> > Dave

> > RE: [texasems-L] An old medical term

> >

> > > My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

> > > document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please let

> > me

> > > know if you think that is a possibility.

> > >

> > > Take care and I hope that this helps!

> > >

> > > Trey Wood

> > >

> >

>

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I don't blame him, I do not even like doing that rectal instant glucose or

valium, let alone an ice water enema!!!!!! : )

Steve Dralle

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>

> I collect old medical textbooks. In all of these, even one dated 1891, I

> could

> not find anything of that nature. I did however find that a British text

> stated

> that an ice water enema was one of the ways to determine death.

>

> -aloha-

> Mike

>

> Dave wrote:

>

> > Well, I guess you'd be pretty demobilized if you were dead

> > (children-of-the-night types excepted), but I've never heard it listed

as

> a

> > cause of death. Why some politicians may have been dead all this time

and

> we

> > didn't even notice it.

> >

> > Dave

> > RE: [texasems-L] An old medical term

> >

> > > My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

> > > document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please

let

> > me

> > > know if you think that is a possibility.

> > >

> > > Take care and I hope that this helps!

> > >

> > > Trey Wood

> > >

> >

>

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What about coffee? I've heard about these...

I'm a coffee addict. But rectally? It hurts enough when I sip and burn the

roof of my mouth or my tongue... <ouch>.

On a serious note, did anyone attend Dr. Racht's sesion at TEMS-2000? He

was asking how many of us still infused the smoke of tobbaco into the rectum

for drownings... evidently this was a nordic practice, hence the term

" blowing smoke up [my] ass. " Now that we can't smoke in the units, how are

we supposed to do this? Would spitting chewing tobbaco work as well? If

so, maybe we *do* need an engine company on every call... <ducking for cover

now...>

Mike :)

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>I don't blame him, I do not even like doing that rectal instant glucose or

>valium, let alone an ice water enema!!!!!! : )

>

>Steve Dralle

>

> Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

> >

> > I collect old medical textbooks. In all of these, even one dated 1891,

>I

> > could

> > not find anything of that nature. I did however find that a British

>text

> > stated

> > that an ice water enema was one of the ways to determine death.

> >

> > -aloha-

> > Mike

> >

> > Dave wrote:

> >

> > > Well, I guess you'd be pretty demobilized if you were dead

> > > (children-of-the-night types excepted), but I've never heard it listed

>as

> > a

> > > cause of death. Why some politicians may have been dead all this time

>and

> > we

> > > didn't even notice it.

> > >

> > > Dave

> > > RE: [texasems-L] An old medical term

> > >

> > > > My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

> > > > document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please

>let

> > > me

> > > > know if you think that is a possibility.

> > > >

> > > > Take care and I hope that this helps!

> > > >

> > > > Trey Wood

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Mike:

I'm sure all the heavy sleepers in your service area have just breathed a

sign of relief and voted your medical director official thanks. ;^]

Dave

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> > >

> > > > My guess is that this is a misspelling and/or bad handwriting on the

> > > > document. I am guessing that the term was " demobilization " . Please

let

> > > me

> > > > know if you think that is a possibility.

> > > >

> > > > Take care and I hope that this helps!

> > > >

> > > > Trey Wood

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I am just guessing here but isn't that what was

called when a witch or demon was burned out of you??????

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term

OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

yesteryear

with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without

results and

even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries

without

luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was

listed as cause of death. I

think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any

ideas would be

appreciated!

Jana

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I also looked at some other places on the net, and could not find anything

one this medical term either. I even added and dropped a letter to see if

anything came up....and nothing.

Wayne

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>Jana:

>

>Where in all that's holy do you come up with these things? I think that

must

>be some kind of Rigellian disease or something. I sure never heard of it.

>Neither have any of the books in my reference library.

>

>Dave

> Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

>

>

>> OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

>yesteryear

>> with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results

>and

>> even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries without

>> luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death.

I

>> think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would

>be

>> appreciated!

>> Jana

>>

>>

>> _________________________________________________________

>>

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Dave,

You know how I am (you know my friends, anyway and birds of a feather!).

Anyway, I am doing genealogy work on my family and, in a document I received

for one of my ancestors in the military, it listed demohilizatia. I had

always thought it was a misspelling of demobilization, thinking that the

civil war was over and the unit was demobilized and everyone went home and

went back to farming or coal mining, or whatever. Well, a friend was

looking at what I had and swore that it was an " ailment " or some medical

condition. I told her I did not think so, so she kept insisting and neither

of us could find anything after several weeks of research, so I told her

that if anyone could find it, one of you guys could. Well, I think I'm

right (for once).

I really appreciate everyone looking and, I think I should have given

you more information and what I thought, but she didn't want me to, so I

just " threw it out to ya'! " So, many thanks and I appreciate ya'll proving

my point to her.

I think it's been on the list before, but I did find a kinda neat site

about " old " medical terms and conditions. I'll find the addy and give it to

anyone if you're interested!

Take care and go safely!

Jana

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>

>

> > OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

> yesteryear

> > with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without results

> and

> > even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries

without

> > luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of death.

I

> > think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas would

> be

> > appreciated!

> > Jana

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________

> >

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Ooops! I just realized when I re-read my original post that I said it was

listed as " cause of death " *so sorry***** it was listed as reason for

discharge from the military! My bad! But, I do think you're right and

ya'll have probably already read my post to Dave, so my apologies and I

think that Trey, you're correct, it is a misspelling of demobilization.

And, Kenita, you're right too! I just love winning the argument!

Thanks ya'll for all the hard work and I'll send you part of the steak

dinner she and I had riding on whether this was a medical condition or not!

Jana

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> >

> > > OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

> > yesteryear

> > > with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without

results

> > and

> > > even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries

> without

> > > luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of

death.

> I

> > > think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas

would

> > be

> > > appreciated!

> > > Jana

> > >

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________

> > >

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Jana:

I gotta tell you this one is a toughie. Every resource I have (and I got

consid'able ones) has come up dry on this one. For some totally

unexplainable reason, I think this may be some kind of parasitic and/or

tropical disease. Does that possibility maybe match up with your ancestor's

military service history? I think I already found the site you're talking

about. It was what I used to answer Donn's question yesterday. The only two

it lacked were the English sickness and Yaws, which I found elsewhere. No

demohilizatia, though.

Dave

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> >

> >

> > > OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

> > yesteryear

> > > with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without

results

> > and

> > > even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries

> without

> > > luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of

death.

> I

> > > think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas

would

> > be

> > > appreciated!

> > > Jana

> > >

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________

> > >

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Try the following web site, if you have not already. This individual will do

research on the cause of death based with archaic and outdated medical terms.

There are number of questions to answer so you most likely need as much

background on your ancestor as possible.

www.paul_smith.org.uk/amt1.htm.

Hope this helps.

Mike

Dave wrote:

> Jana:

>

> I gotta tell you this one is a toughie. Every resource I have (and I got

> consid'able ones) has come up dry on this one. For some totally

> unexplainable reason, I think this may be some kind of parasitic and/or

> tropical disease. Does that possibility maybe match up with your ancestor's

> military service history? I think I already found the site you're talking

> about. It was what I used to answer Donn's question yesterday. The only two

> it lacked were the English sickness and Yaws, which I found elsewhere. No

> demohilizatia, though.

>

> Dave

> Re: [texasems-L] An old medical term

> > >

> > >

> > > > OK, ya'll, here's one for ya'! I found a death certificate from

> > > yesteryear

> > > > with a term I've never heard. Used Gene's google search without

> results

> > > and

> > > > even looked in many on-line new and old-time medical dictionaries

> > without

> > > > luck. Here it is: demohilizatioa. This was listed as cause of

> death.

> > I

> > > > think if I'd had this ailment, I'd be dead too! Anyway, any ideas

> would

> > > be

> > > > appreciated!

> > > > Jana

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _________________________________________________________

> > > >

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