Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Anne I think in adrenal fatigue what is MOST important abotu potassium is to balance it with ENOUGH sodium. They do balance each other out and many people in adrenal fatigue lose salt. I had horrid muscle spasms when I did not tak eenough salt in the summer for three years and had all the doc's stumped but I noticed my sodium was 1 point below range and doubled my sea slat and all the spasms stopped. These Charklie Horses were across my rib cage and very near the heart area. I was gettign worried abotu my heart as ti si a muscle too and what is a heart attack but a muscle spasm of the heart! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Yup. Tuesday morning, to be exact. I was awakened my chest pain that extending into my shoulders. Don't know how long it lasted (kind of like an earthquake - it seems like a lifetime when it's shaking, then the news says it lasted for 40 seconds!) - but it was scary, and I thought for sure that I was having the " big one " (a la Fred Sanford). How does one monitor potassium without bloodwork? I just really don't want my kids to have to call 911! > > Natural Thyroid Hormone ADRENALSQuestion to throw out: > I've had some chest pain this week, especially in the evening or at night, > but I also had it Thursday morning (I was on my way to the lab for testing > for diabetes, so yes, I was stressed more than usual). I've been wondering > if I should add " heart attack " to my list of ailments <wink> but then I read > this on another group I'm on, a group for just 's disease (adrenal > insufficiency): > > ------------ > > >> When potassium is high or low we can experience symptoms of a heart > >> attack. ians both Primary and Secondary experience these > >> symptoms....some more often than others, is is quite common. > > >> Having these symptoms checked out is wise but if all appears to be > >> fine.......look closely at your potassium levels specifically. Again, > >> when potassium is out of range it is common to experience these " chest " > >> symptoms. > Potassium levels are important......if too high or too low, you can go into > cardiac arrest. > > >> Keep a watchful eye on your potassium levels specifically.....it is VERY > >> important!! > > ------------- > > What is your opinion of potassium levels? I'm in one of the late stages of > adrenal fatigue, and my lab tests did show low sodium levels and high > potassium levels. I also crave salt and often lose fluids, plus I have low > blood pressure. My symptoms have improved the last couple days, but > Thursday morning (lab-test day) I had very low blood pressure. Anyone else > experience chest pains with adrenal fatigue? > > Thanks, and sorry for asking SOOOOO many questions! > ~Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 > > Anne I think in adrenal fatigue what is MOST important abotu potassium > is to balance it with ENOUGH sodium. They do balance each other out and > many people in adrenal fatigue lose salt. Val, if I'm having leg swelling, and the faux heart attack, should I do more than 1/2 tsp sea salt daily? Is there any harm in it? (Obviously, within reason...but what would that be for those of us who lean toward the overzealous?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 >>How does one monitor potassium without bloodwork<< I doubt there is a way. https://www.healthcheckusa.com/testdetails.asp?productid=34 This is a great value for all it entails. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 When I had leg swelling MORE sea salt was what I needed and after 10 years of 1-2 tsp sea salt every day, my sodium was right smack in the middle of the normal ranges last blood testing and my potassium is also right smack in the middle too. I do not think sea salt drives up sodium too high like regular salt does. It also helped me reduce my swelling and stopped the muscle spasms I was having when nothing the doctor did worked. If it becomes regular thing I would get a CBC to know for sure what is going on. LOW sodium can cause these spasms just as well as low potassium. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 >good morning. here's anther thought on leg swelling. I experimented with my left calf swelling and it turned out to be from the armour. Every time I tried to increase, even by 1/8 grain, my left calf swelled. It has gotten better now that I am on 25 HC. I am always puzzled why it only happened to one leg. plus I get muscle cramps in that left leg too. It must be related. conny > When I had leg swelling MORE sea salt was what I needed and after 10 > years of 1-2 tsp sea salt every day, my sodium was right smack in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 >>good morning. here's anther thought on leg swelling. I experimented with my left calf swelling and it turned out to be from the armour.<< the only reason Armoru could cause fluid retention & htus swellign in the legs is if you are at the stage of treatement where it shuts down your TSH and thus renders you more hypo than before taking it. The solution is to push past this dose to a higher level. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Anne, Here is the link to the licorice powder. http://www.guidance.org/store/product32.html This will help balance out your high potassium, low sodium. It has helped me so much. You sound like you are a perfect canidate for this product. It comes with instructions and you have to mix it yourself. If you decide to order it I will tell you how I started and worked up to 1 cup. Actually I am now taking one cup in the morning nad 1/4 cut in the afternoon working up to a 1/2 cup. This product is not for anyone with high blood pressure!!!! Only low blood pressure. I have never had the chest pain but I have serious heart palpitations and this product has helped that by about 75%. It has helped the potassium/sodium levels and the low blood pressure. My understanding is that in the stage you are at you end up with low blood volume, hence low blood pressure, hence heart issues. All the other stuff is just the extras you get, the sodium/potassium, headaches, etc. The licorice powder increases blood volume, helps hydrocortisone last longer, balances out sodium/potassium by holding more sodium in your kidneys which helps dehydration which helps low blood pressure which helps you all the way around. The instructions explain all of this. They ship really fast. Please let me know how your diabetes tests turn out. If you have diabetes I should probably go get tested. Seems like you and I are twins except the chest pain. a in North Idaho > > Natural Thyroid Hormone ADRENALSQuestion to throw out: > I've had some chest pain this week, especially in the evening or at night, > but I also had it Thursday morning (I was on my way to the lab for testing > for diabetes, so yes, I was stressed more than usual). I've been wondering > if I should add " heart attack " to my list of ailments <wink> but then I read > this on another group I'm on, a group for just 's disease (adrenal > insufficiency): > > ------------ > > >> When potassium is high or low we can experience symptoms of a heart > >> attack. ians both Primary and Secondary experience these > >> symptoms....some more often than others, is is quite common. > > >> Having these symptoms checked out is wise but if all appears to be > >> fine.......look closely at your potassium levels specifically. Again, > >> when potassium is out of range it is common to experience these " chest " > >> symptoms. > Potassium levels are important......if too high or too low, you can go into > cardiac arrest. > > >> Keep a watchful eye on your potassium levels specifically.....it is VERY > >> important!! > > ------------- > > What is your opinion of potassium levels? I'm in one of the late stages of > adrenal fatigue, and my lab tests did show low sodium levels and high > potassium levels. I also crave salt and often lose fluids, plus I have low > blood pressure. My symptoms have improved the last couple days, but > Thursday morning (lab-test day) I had very low blood pressure. Anyone else > experience chest pains with adrenal fatigue? > > Thanks, and sorry for asking SOOOOO many questions! > ~Anne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Oh, I guess I'll throw it on the credit card! I'll worry about how to pay for this disaster when I'm better! Visa has made it so easy...sent me a new card with goldfish on it...makes me smile when I take it out & go further into debt! : ) Val, are electrolytes the potassium & sodium? > > >>How does one monitor potassium without bloodwork<< > > I doubt there is a way. > https://www.healthcheckusa.com/testdetails.asp?productid=34 > This is a great value for all it entails. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 > > When I had leg swelling MORE sea salt was what I needed and after 10 > years of 1-2 tsp sea salt every day, my sodium was right smack in the > middle of the normal ranges last blood testing and my potassium is also > right smack in the middle too. OK, then it's probably fine to go above 1 tsp. I didn't know. I was taking 1/2 tsp in the AM, then adding another 1/2 tsp when I was having the issues. Today I'm doing better with 1/2 Isocort, 1/2 HC, but I'm still having the midday swelling. Took a second OJ & SS with lunch, but now I'm having the swelling again. Seems like it's happening after dose 2 & 3 of the HC. But not dose 1. Maybe I am reading too much into it & just need more sea salt? I wasn't having the swelling on Isocort only. But I did stop have to crack open a jar of olives and eat them in the parking lot at Trader Joe's in the rain on Friday on my way home from the dr! Craving the salt, I suppose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 >>Val, are electrolytes the potassium & sodium?<< Yes. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I think it may well be a transient thing that as your body adjusts to having the cortisol will go away. I know I used to say it isn't a symptom till yu have had it at least a week, and that is how I hold myself from worrying too much! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 > > I think it may well be a transient thing that as your body adjusts to > having the cortisol will go away. OK, that makes sense. I know I used to say it isn't a > symptom till yu have had it at least a week, and that is how I hold > myself from worrying too much! > I'm sure if I had one lick of thyroid hormone left in my body, I would be able to agree with you! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 In a message dated 10/29/2006 11:01:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, AngInfoHound@... writes: Any other beverages that you might recommend other than the OJ? Let's be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. As it is, I've been having a difficult time choking down my vitamins. Try grape juice...it is delicious! Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 , Food for thought, if you are having trouble with the sodium/potassium balance then you may want to stay away from foods high in potassium. OJ is very high in potassium and maybe that is why you are getting the swelling. Drink the sea salt in water. Now I know Val always took her sea salt in OJ but some of us can't do the potassium and I am betting you are one of those folks. It is almost univerally high potassium, low sodium. You want to get that back in balance so avoid the potassium, eat the sodium. Good thing watermellon is out of season. The emergen-C drink nearly killed me. Very high in potassium but I didn't know that then, and thank goodness I do now. a in North Idaho > the midday swelling. Took a second OJ & SS with lunch, but now I'm > having the swelling again. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Thanks for that info, a. Any other beverages that you might recommend other than the OJ? Let's be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. As it is, I've been having a difficult time choking down my vitamins. Warmly, > > , > Food for thought, if you are having trouble with the sodium/potassium > balance then you may want to stay away from foods high in potassium. > OJ is very high in potassium and maybe that is why you are getting the > swelling. Drink the sea salt in water. > Now I know Val always took her sea salt in OJ but some of us can't do > the potassium and I am betting you are one of those folks. It is > almost univerally high potassium, low sodium. You want to get that > back in balance so avoid the potassium, eat the sodium. Good thing > watermellon is out of season. > The emergen-C drink nearly killed me. Very high in potassium but I > didn't know that then, and thank goodness I do now. > a in North Idaho > > > > the midday swelling. Took a second OJ & SS with lunch, but now I'm > > having the swelling again. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Somewhere I remember somebody saying that you can buy empty capsules. Could you get some of these and fill them with sea salt? Doesn't sound like a great idea, but it's a though??? angesc2001 wrote: Thanks for that info, a. Any other beverages that you might recommend other than the OJ? Let's be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. As it is, I've been having a difficult time choking down my vitamins. Warmly, > > , > Food for thought, if you are having trouble with the sodium/potassium > balance then you may want to stay away from foods high in potassium. > OJ is very high in potassium and maybe that is why you are getting the > swelling. Drink the sea salt in water. > Now I know Val always took her sea salt in OJ but some of us can't do > the potassium and I am betting you are one of those folks. It is > almost univerally high potassium, low sodium. You want to get that > back in balance so avoid the potassium, eat the sodium. Good thing > watermellon is out of season. > The emergen-C drink nearly killed me. Very high in potassium but I > didn't know that then, and thank goodness I do now. > a in North Idaho > > > > the midday swelling. Took a second OJ & SS with lunch, but now I'm > > having the swelling again. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I was filling empty gel capsules with sea salt and it works ok up to a point. The only problem is that you can't fill too many in advance because the salt is wet it eats through the capsule. I've been told that you need some sugar for the salt to absorb so instead of taking it with oj I've been adding a tiny amount of sugar to the salt/water. Really just the tip of a teaspoon is enough and it makes the salt water taste better too Lynda Re: Re: potassium > Somewhere I remember somebody saying that you can buy empty > capsules. Could you get some of these and fill them with sea salt? > Doesn't sound like a great idea, but it's a though??? > > > > angesc2001 wrote: Thanks for that info, > a. > > Any other beverages that you might recommend other than the OJ? > Let's > be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. As it is, I've > been having a difficult time choking down my vitamins. > > Warmly, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 >>Somewhere I remember somebody saying that you can buy empty capsules. Could you get some of these and fill them with sea salt? Doesn't sound like a great idea, but it's a though???<< This is nto a good idea as you need fluids with the sea salt to get it into your system, and when those capsules dissolved, you would have a large amount of caustic salt in your stomach that would most likely cause at the very least nausea. ea salt needs fluids and preferably sweet ones to absorb best. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Salt-free tomato juice. Adding your own sea salt makes it taste wonderful. It tastes great in V8 too, but that has too much processed crap-salt in it to start with. I didn't like SS in OJ, so I tried SS in V* next. I had 2 8 oz. glasses (1/4tsp SS each) during the day. I noticed my legs swelled. At first I attributed it to the sea salt. Then I cut down on the volumn of juice, using only about 3-4 oz 1xday with my 1/4tsp SS & the swelling went away. Tomato juice hides the taste of iodine well too. I do both my iodine & salt in it. I cook all my meals at home. It's been great to add SS liberally to them. And I don't have to worry about drinking SS in a beverage during the day. I only do it in the morning, unless I'm cooking something to which I can add the salt (eggs, sweet potato/pinto bean hash, etc). > Any other beverages that you might recommend other than the OJ? Let's > be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. As it is, I've > been having a difficult time choking down my vitamins. > > Warmly, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I have found something else I like sea salt in .. as I am having to cut the sugar out of my diet due to the Diabetes, I started buying the Crystal Light drinks and most the flavors I can put my sea salt in and it tastes just fine.But then I really love the taste of sea salt! LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Sounds ingenious to me. --- Whitmore wrote: > Somewhere I remember somebody saying that you can > buy empty capsules. Could you get some of these and > fill them with sea salt? Doesn't sound like a great > idea, but it's a though??? > > > > angesc2001 wrote: > Thanks for that info, a. > > Any other beverages that you might recommend other > than the OJ? Let's > be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. > As it is, I've > been having a difficult time choking down my > vitamins. > > Warmly, > > > > > > > , > > Food for thought, if you are having trouble with > the sodium/potassium > > balance then you may want to stay away from foods > high in potassium. > > OJ is very high in potassium and maybe that is why > you are getting the > > swelling. Drink the sea salt in water. > > Now I know Val always took her sea salt in OJ but > some of us can't do > > the potassium and I am betting you are one of > those folks. It is > > almost univerally high potassium, low sodium. You > want to get that > > back in balance so avoid the potassium, eat the > sodium. Good thing > > watermellon is out of season. > > The emergen-C drink nearly killed me. Very high > in potassium but I > > didn't know that then, and thank goodness I do > now. > > a in North Idaho > > > > > > > the midday swelling. Took a second OJ & SS with > lunch, but now I'm > > > having the swelling again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Oops, so sorry! This wouldn't work at all. wrote: >>Somewhere I remember somebody saying that you can buy empty capsules. Could you get some of these and fill them with sea salt? Doesn't sound like a great idea, but it's a though???<< This is nto a good idea as you need fluids with the sea salt to get it into your system, and when those capsules dissolved, you would have a large amount of caustic salt in your stomach that would most likely cause at the very least nausea. ea salt needs fluids and preferably sweet ones to absorb best. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 > > > In a message dated 10/29/2006 11:01:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > AngInfoHound@... writes: > > Any other beverages that you might recommend other than the OJ? Let's > be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. As it is, I've > been having a difficult time choking down my vitamins. > > > > Try grape juice...it is delicious! > > Helen > Good idea! And, if I remember correctly, once when I was a kid & had a long-lasting stomach bug, the ER dr told my mom that grape juice and something - was it salt??? - was good for electrolyte imbalance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 > > > In a message dated 10/29/2006 11:01:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > AngInfoHound@... writes: > > Any other beverages that you might recommend other than the OJ? Let's > be honest here...I can't do the sea salt in water. As it is, I've > been having a difficult time choking down my vitamins. > > > > Try grape juice...it is delicious! > > Helen > Ooops...think that's high in potassium too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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