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> I am feeling really frustrated that I can't get her to stop this

behavior.

> I don't know if I can take this forever. I hope she grows out of this

soon.

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> Tamara

Oh poor Tamara.... I'm sorry. I'm sure that must be HORRIBLE. I hope she

outgrows it too, and REALLY quickly.

Do get her back on SNT, and as for Risperidal, I hope you can work something

out at the appt.

<Sigh>

I don't know why it always has to be one thing or another. Poor you, poor

Ebony. Poor all of us.

You're in my thoughts, and I will definitely hope for major constipation at

your place... at least for a couple of days.

Grace

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Thanks. I was so sleepy this morning cause was up most of the night

with a fever, that I forgot to start her on it this morning. So, I will

wait till tomorrow. I do think that it is sensory related though. Maybe

after Xmas is over things will settle down? I hope.

Tamara

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>Reply-To: parenting_autism

>To: <parenting_autism >

>Subject: Re: Update-Ebony

>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:33:59 -0500

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>Oh goodness, Tamara. You poor thing.

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>(((hugs)))

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>I hope the SNT helps.

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>Jacquie

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Thanks. It's helps just to know there are people out there who understand

and, though in rough situations themselves, are here to offer support.

Tamara

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>To: <parenting_autism >

>Subject: RE: Update-Ebony

>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:05:35 -0500

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>Oh Tamara, I'm so sorry. I wish there was something more I could say.

>(( Thinking of you.

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>-Sara.

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>You're in my thoughts, and I will definitely hope for major constipation at

>your place... at least for a couple of days.

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>Grace

Grace: LOL!!!!

She already smeared a little today, but we caught her before she got

anything but herself. I need to rent the carpet cleaner again. I scrub it

by hand, but it still stinks.

Thanks for the good thoughts. I just get so frustrated cause we try to

give her a ton of sensory options and still she chooses this. She has a

trampoline she can use at will. She has never been refused any sensory

activity that she requests. I even have home made silly putty in the fridge

for her to use. I might try the peanut butter idea that someone posted.

Just give her a bowl of pb and let her go nuts, but in a controlled

environment.

Thanks, again.

Tamara

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Thanks!! That's what I need to hear. That I am not the only person who has

bought stock in febreeze! I will probably be taking you up on your offer

and venting lots, cause this is really starting to get to me badly.

Tamara

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>To: parenting_autism

>Subject: Re: Update-Ebony

>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:46:41 -0000

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> > Well, today I cleaned poop twice.<<<

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>I'm right there with ya, Tamara -

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>Vent as much as you need to, because I for one, understand!

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>Penny :-(

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> Thanks for the good thoughts. I just get so frustrated cause we try to

> give her a ton of sensory options and still she chooses this.

Exactly what sensory need is this fulfilling?

Sorry, I am so unfamiliar with this, and for sure, *I* have never needed to

do this. So I need a little more info.

Is it the act of spreading, or is it the feces that is important?

I don't get it.

I'm a 10, remember. :o)

Grace

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In a message dated 12/19/01 11:41:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,

gracekeh@... writes:

<< Exactly what sensory need is this fulfilling?

Sorry, I am so unfamiliar with this, and for sure, *I* have never needed to

do this. So I need a little more info. >>

It is probably the fingerpainting with textured material that is needed. But

there is always the chance that very noxious smells could be needed too.

I think it's time for heavily scented, playdough for sensory playtime.

try hiding toys in the playdough and having her find them. That was an all

time favorite of ;s for a good 5 years or so.

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ROTFLMAO!!!

Literally...it's falling off as I type!

(actually, on the subject of falling off asses, my wieght has already gone

down 20 lbs!!! since my stroke.)

Okay. I wasn't talking about poop flavored incense or anything that

disgusting. I meant and overpowering smell for the playdough. You could try

a few drops of peppermint flavoring first and see how that goes. If you need

something bitter you best try something less pleasant to the taste but again

liquid flavoring would work. Add it to the playdough before kneading it

(with gloves on at first so you don't absorb the smell).

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I know it is the texture thing and I am sure the spreading and playing in

it. But it has also been suggested that the smell is also satisfying a

sensory need....it sure dissatisfies my senses!!

Tamara

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>To: <parenting_autism >

>Subject: Re: Update-Ebony

>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:17:23 -0800

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> > Thanks for the good thoughts. I just get so frustrated cause we try to

> > give her a ton of sensory options and still she chooses this.

>

>Exactly what sensory need is this fulfilling?

>Sorry, I am so unfamiliar with this, and for sure, *I* have never needed to

>do this. So I need a little more info.

>

>Is it the act of spreading, or is it the feces that is important?

>I don't get it.

>I'm a 10, remember. :o)

>

>Grace

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> I know it is the texture thing and I am sure the spreading and

playing in

> it. But it has also been suggested that the smell is also

satisfying a

> sensory need....it sure dissatisfies my senses!>>

Tamara,

The other thing I have been told about it is that it seems " safe " to

them because it comes from them (not trying to get too graphic,

sorry)...and I wonder if they go back to the same place because of

the smell...I have been reading Bonnie Hanschu's stuff lately and she

is the first therapist I have seen who doesn't downplay the

importance of the sense of smell. She talks about how smell is the

only sense that goes straight to the limbic system (emotions)...very

powerful stuff. We interpret it as a negative, but as we all know,

our kids don't interpret things the same way we do...

Good luck...cleaning up poop is one of my least favorite things...and

I do way too much of it. I figured out the other day that with the

exception of a few months when I was pregnant with , I have

been changing diapers for almost 15 years!

Raena (planning to start potty training after the holidays...I think

he's finally ready if we do it right...)

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Does she have any suggestions on how to satisfy this need without the poop?

Good luck with potty training. I hope it works for you!

Tamara

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>To: parenting_autism

>Subject: Re: Update-Ebony

>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:28:02 -0000

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> > I know it is the texture thing and I am sure the spreading and

>playing in

> > it. But it has also been suggested that the smell is also

>satisfying a

> > sensory need....it sure dissatisfies my senses!>>

>

>Tamara,

>

>The other thing I have been told about it is that it seems " safe " to

>them because it comes from them (not trying to get too graphic,

>sorry)...and I wonder if they go back to the same place because of

>the smell...I have been reading Bonnie Hanschu's stuff lately and she

>is the first therapist I have seen who doesn't downplay the

>importance of the sense of smell. She talks about how smell is the

>only sense that goes straight to the limbic system (emotions)...very

>powerful stuff. We interpret it as a negative, but as we all know,

>our kids don't interpret things the same way we do...

>

>Good luck...cleaning up poop is one of my least favorite things...and

>I do way too much of it. I figured out the other day that with the

>exception of a few months when I was pregnant with , I have

>been changing diapers for almost 15 years!

>

>Raena (planning to start potty training after the holidays...I think

>he's finally ready if we do it right...)

>

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In a message dated 12/20/01 12:37:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,

gracekeh@... writes:

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Great. I have to get myself a stroke to lose weight. Wonderful. ;o)

Do you FEEL good? I would jump off a building and fly if I lost 20 lbs.

Not that I am suggesting you do the same, but - - -

>>

Yes. Actually I haven't felt this good in more than a couple years at the

least!

I don't have a ton of energy yet, but I think that'll take awhile to build

up. I'm on a roll ---been eating a great diet since my hospitalization and

today my blood pressure is down to 130/80. I'm so thrilled! It's working

finally!

Yeah!

My blood pressure hasn't beeen that low in a long time.

So, the thing was getting me on a diaretic, toprol, zestril (2x day) and one

aspirin per day cause it makes your blood more squirty.

:-D

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In a message dated 12/20/01 12:49:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,

gracekeh@... writes:

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I think I'll go pop an aspirin too. Been havin' chest pains lately, and

squirty blood might help, LOL.

>>

Yes, squirty blood would probably help you too!

It does have a certain sound to it, doesn't it?

SQUIRTY BLOOD...........squirty blood.........sQuIrTy BlOod!

:-D

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> How do you scent the playdough?

> Tamara

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Oh Kandie... if Ebony actually does like the smell of poop, then i don't

think I want to hear how it's scented.....

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I'm a 29, and I don't get it either.

Tuna

>Thanks for the good thoughts. I just get so

frustrated cause we try to give her a ton of sensory

options and still she chooses this.<

>Exactly what sensory need is this fulfilling? Sorry,

I am so unfamiliar with this, and for sure, *I* have

never needed to do this. & nbsp; So I need a little more

info. Is it the act of spreading, or is it the feces

that is important? I don't get it. I'm a 10, remember.

:o)

Grace

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How do you scent the playdough?

Tamara

>From: kandiedem@...

>Reply-To: parenting_autism

>To: parenting_autism

>Subject: Re: Update-Ebony

>Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:44:55 EST

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>In a message dated 12/19/01 11:41:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,

>gracekeh@... writes:

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><< Exactly what sensory need is this fulfilling?

> Sorry, I am so unfamiliar with this, and for sure, *I* have never needed

>to

> do this. So I need a little more info. >>

>

>It is probably the fingerpainting with textured material that is needed.

>But

>there is always the chance that very noxious smells could be needed too.

>

>I think it's time for heavily scented, playdough for sensory playtime.

>

>try hiding toys in the playdough and having her find them. That was an all

>time favorite of ;s for a good 5 years or so.

>

>kandie

>

>Kandie and (9 years)

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> (actually, on the subject of falling off asses, my wieght has already gone

> down 20 lbs!!! since my stroke.)

Great. I have to get myself a stroke to lose weight. Wonderful. ;o)

Do you FEEL good? I would jump off a building and fly if I lost 20 lbs.

Not that I am suggesting you do the same, but - - -

>

> Okay. I wasn't talking about poop flavored incense or anything that

> disgusting.

Actually, I thought you were going to suggest mixing in a handful of the

real stuff in with regular storebought playdoh or something. Incense is not

so bad, actually LOL.

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> aspirin per day cause it makes your blood more squirty.

" SQUIRTY? "

How cute ARE you?

Squirty... LOLOL, I like that.

I think I'll go pop an aspirin too. Been havin' chest pains lately, and

squirty blood might help, LOL.

Grace

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We do that, already. I don't think it's think enough to satisfy that need.

Thanks...

Tamara

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>What about Shaving Cream?

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>Penny

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