Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 While Dr Peatfield says we can go to those higher doses PLEASE be aware you COULD start to have side effects there as well. Watch for fluid retention and monitor your BP as these would be the first signs that could show up. I believe it is leaky gut syndrome that causes some hypos to have poor absorption of foods and meds. Digestive enzymes may help this. I think I would try the enzymes before trying a higher Pred dose. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Does this also hold true for higher doses of HC (i.e. 30 mg) or just pred? > > While Dr Peatfield says we can go to those higher doses PLEASE be aware > you COULD start to have side effects there as well. Watch for fluid > retention and monitor your BP as these would be the first signs that > could show up. I believe it is leaky gut syndrome that causes some hypos > to have poor absorption of foods and meds. Digestive enzymes may help > this. I think I would try the enzymes before trying a higher Pred dose. > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Val - after what length of time would you expect side effects of higher doses to develop, IF they are going to? Could they develop after a few day's stress dosing? Nicola -- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , T wrote: > > While Dr Peatfield says we can go to those higher doses PLEASE be aware > you COULD start to have side effects there as well. Watch for fluid > retention and monitor your BP as these would be the first signs that > could show up. I believe it is leaky gut syndrome that causes some hypos > to have poor absorption of foods and meds. Digestive enzymes may help > this. I think I would try the enzymes before trying a higher Pred dose. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 It is not likely they would develop that quickly, but certainly over a couple week's time. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Robin I have just been there and done that. Raised to 2 grains on 6.5mg of Pred a week ago, and a week later had to reduce due to feeling a bit hyper, and reactive hypoglycemia. I went down to half a grain for a day, yesterday one grain, and had the best night's sleep I've had in a long time - no pounding heart, waking with low blood sugar. It makes me wonder whether I should stick to a lower dose and forget about raising. I'm doing 75mg today and will see how I feel. Nice to know someone is in the same boat! Nicola PS I am also tackling the yeast - I do think this has something to do with absorption. - In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Robin Hill- Young " wrote: > > As usual, I'm still struggling to find the right dose of pred now that I've decided HC wasn't > strong enough. > > I was reading Dr. P's book (The Great Thyroid Scandal, page 190) and he mentioned that a > pred dose can be from 7.5 to 10. I found that 7.5 worked sometimes but not always as > did 8.75 so today i took the plunge to 10...so far so good but it's only day one. > > Anyway, Dr. P menitoned that if someone needs to go as high as 10 with pred this is not a > reflection of the state of the arednals but more likely to do the stomachs ability to absorb > the pred (page 111). So, if this is the case with me, what about my stomach might be > reducing my absorption? What can I do to improve absorption? Would this be to much > yeast in my stomach? (I thought yeast was an intestinal issue) > > It would be nice if i didn't need such a high dose. Plus, I'm a bit concerned because at 1.5 > grains 7.5 pred was enough but as my armour increased my pred was less effective and > I'm only at 2 grains. I hope 10 of pred still works when i hit 3 grains and so on... I've tried > several times to reach 2 grains but this is always the point where i crash big time - that > was certainly the case with 35 HC or 7.5 pred. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Yes it would include higher doses of HC but I call high doses of that 40MG -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 > While Dr Peatfield says we can go to those higher doses PLEASE be aware > you COULD start to have side effects there as well. Watch for fluid > retention and monitor your BP as these would be the first signs that > could show up. I believe it is leaky gut syndrome that causes some hypos > to have poor absorption of foods and meds. Digestive enzymes may help > this. I think I would try the enzymes before trying a higher Pred dose. I DON'T want to be this high either but maybe in a few days I can lower my dose again. My temps are all over the place plus i would wake every day at 7, back in bed by 11 and aake by 2 then full of energy the rest of the day. Today I didn't need a nap. I check on the net for some digestive enzymes but off the top of you head, can you give me some types of enzymes ( not brand names since I don't live in US any more)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 > > Does this also hold true for higher doses of HC (i.e. 30 mg) or just > pred? > Probably Val can confirm my answer my usually 30 mg of HC isn't considered too high or on the edge. 30 mg is considered within the normal range of HC dosing. 10 of pred is equal to 40 mg HC. 300 or 35 of HC is the upper limit of nromal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Can't help with the enzymes but maybe someone else here takes them. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 My question is why are people using prednisone? Surely there are safer ways to get HC? I saw the consequences of long term usage with my dad, who had trashed lungs from his war service in WWI and had 3 lung diseases, plus he was a smoker for many years. I have been on it for my own lungs several times and don't recommend it to anyone! I am not trying to condemn its usage, but can't help wondering why anyone would WANT to be on a drug like this? It is not a natural hormone, but a synthetic one. Puzzled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Is it ok to take HC 5mg before going to bed? > > People take pred instead of HC for several reasons. First it can be > doses 1-2 times a day where HC must be dosed 4-5 times a day. Second > some folks the HC is just not long lastig enough aws their adrenals are > really bad then Pred is the next step. The doses we take for adrenal > fatigue are NOT going to give us the same side effects as doses given > for asthma or lung problems. They are just enough to replace the missing > cortisol we are not making. But I agree I would rather see folks on HC > than Pred. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 How is prednisone different from Cortef? Is Cortef a synthetic as well? I was under the impression that it was, but does that mean it's not as safe as natural options? Amy > > My question is why are people using prednisone? Surely there are safer ways to get HC? It is not a natural hormone, but a synthetic one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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