Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

[Guest guest]

>>Hi all,i have noticed in the last few days,i have a change in a

problematic symptom i have had for quite while now,i have been

suffering from night sweats wher i litterally have to remove articles

of clothing before falling asleep even if i am freezing,otherwise i

would wke up soaking wet.<<

yes weak adrenals can cause nght sweats and heat intolerance. I am not sure how

exactly this happens but I used to get night sweats regularly and thought it was

hormones... NOT as it is gone now.

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[Guest guest]

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>

> yes weak adrenals can cause nght sweats and heat intolerance. I am

not sure how exactly this happens but I used to get night sweats

regularly and thought it was hormones... NOT as it is gone now.

>

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>

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>

Ok thanks val,these last couple days have been somewhat

positive,though i do not want to get ahead of myself,but my brain is

somewhat clear at times,which is a start of good things to come (i

hope)

I think i will stay at this dose for a few more days then move up to

dosind 2 pellets 4 time a day.

But, i am confused as of wether i should start the hc when it comes

in the mail or not.

[Guest guest]

>>But, i am confused as of wether i should start the hc when it comes

in the mail or not.<<

try the Isocort for now. It can't hurt and less ios alwasy better with adrenal

meds, I just haven't seen the healing wiht Isocort that I see with HC.

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[Guest guest]

Night sweats are associated with parasites like Lyme and Babesia. Not

saying that is what is causing yours, but my night sweats from Babesia, were

far different than the hot flashes I had when I went into menopause.

-- Weird but positive symptom change.

Hi all,i have noticed in the last few days,i have a change in a

problematic symptom i have had for quite while now,i have been

suffering from night sweats wher i litterally have to remove articles

of clothing before falling asleep even if i am freezing,otherwise i

would wke up soaking wet.

i just started taking isocort on this past friday,and i had an

extraction of my wisdom tooth a day prior because of nerve damage.

Could the isocort be actually working that fast in a matter of a few

days,and i started off on a low dose schedule,2pellets at rise,1 at

lunch,1 at dinner,and one before bedtime.

Does the nightsweats have anything to do with adrenal insufficiency?

let me add i have been having amalgam removal since sometime in july.

[Guest guest]

>

> Night sweats are associated with parasites like Lyme and Babesia.

Not

> saying that is what is causing yours, but my night sweats from

Babesia, were

> far different than the hot flashes I had when I went into menopause.

>

Well as far as parasites,i'm not sure,i know i don't have lymes,i have

been tested for it about 4 times in the past 2 yrs,as everytime i went

to a doctor and told them my symptoms that's the first thing that they

come up with.

I have been tested for the different forms of lymes also.

Got up this morning dry as ever lol.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/17/2006 9:46:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

yelorado@... writes:

>

>

>

> >

> > Night sweats are associated with parasites like Lyme and Babesia.

> Not

> > saying that is what is causing yours, but my night sweats from

> Babesia, were

> > far different than the hot flashes I had when I went into menopause.

> >

>

>

> Well as far as parasites,i'm not sure,i know i don't have lymes,i have

> been tested for it about 4 times in the past 2 yrs,as everytime i went

> to a doctor and told them my symptoms that's the first thing that they

> come up with.

> I have been tested for the different forms of lymes also.

> Got up this morning dry as ever lol.

>

>

Were any of those four tests done by either Igenex or Medical Diagnostic Lab

in

New Jersey??

Hollis

[Guest guest]

Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does not test positive for

Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken that can kill Lyme. Since

it can change its antigen profile on its coat and hide from the immune

system, one must kill some first. When some of the bugs die, their antigens

become visable to the immune system and then your system can make antibodies

to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc is testing and testing for

it without you ever having taken the appropriate antibiotic, then the bug

can be invisible.

Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a month after the doxy

course, can make it visible if it is there. But my sweats were from Babesia

which was transmitted along with the Lyme during the tic bite. Babesia is

similar to maleria.

-- Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

>

> Night sweats are associated with parasites like Lyme and Babesia.

Not

> saying that is what is causing yours, but my night sweats from

Babesia, were

> far different than the hot flashes I had when I went into menopause.

>

Well as far as parasites,i'm not sure,i know i don't have lymes,i have

been tested for it about 4 times in the past 2 yrs,as everytime i went

to a doctor and told them my symptoms that's the first thing that they

come up with.

I have been tested for the different forms of lymes also.

Got up this morning dry as ever lol.

[Guest guest]

Igenex

-- Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

In a message dated 10/17/2006 9:46:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

yelorado@... writes:

>

>

>

> >

> > Night sweats are associated with parasites like Lyme and Babesia.

> Not

> > saying that is what is causing yours, but my night sweats from

> Babesia, were

> > far different than the hot flashes I had when I went into menopause.

> >

>

>

> Well as far as parasites,i'm not sure,i know i don't have lymes,i have

> been tested for it about 4 times in the past 2 yrs,as everytime i went

> to a doctor and told them my symptoms that's the first thing that they

> come up with.

> I have been tested for the different forms of lymes also.

> Got up this morning dry as ever lol.

>

>

Were any of those four tests done by either Igenex or Medical Diagnostic Lab

in

New Jersey??

Hollis

[Guest guest]

>

> Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does not test

positive for

> Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken that can kill

Lyme. Since

> it can change its antigen profile on its coat and hide from the

immune

> system, one must kill some first. When some of the bugs die,

their antigens

> become visable to the immune system and then your system can make

antibodies

> to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc is testing and

testing for

> it without you ever having taken the appropriate antibiotic, then

the bug

> can be invisible.

>

> Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a month after the

doxy

> course, can make it visible if it is there. But my sweats were

from Babesia

> which was transmitted along with the Lyme during the tic bite.

Babesia is

> similar to maleria.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the specific

signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything else,i was bitten

by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main carriers of lymes (so

i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the testing and i

cannot find the results right now.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/18/2006 9:26:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

yelorado@... writes:

>

> OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the specific

> signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything else,i was bitten

> by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main carriers of lymes (so

> i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the testing and i

> cannot find the results right now.

>

>

If it's not Igenex or Medical Diagnostic Lab, i would urge you to get

testing with one of them.

Hollis

[Guest guest]

Please remember this is a Adrenal and Thyroid website

Thanks

Jeff

> >

> > Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does not test

> positive for

> > Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken that can kill

> Lyme. Since

> > it can change its antigen profile on its coat and hide from the

> immune

> > system, one must kill some first. When some of the bugs die,

> their antigens

> > become visable to the immune system and then your system can

make

> antibodies

> > to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc is testing and

> testing for

> > it without you ever having taken the appropriate antibiotic,

then

> the bug

> > can be invisible.

> >

> > Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a month after

the

> doxy

> > course, can make it visible if it is there. But my sweats were

> from Babesia

> > which was transmitted along with the Lyme during the tic bite.

> Babesia is

> > similar to maleria.

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

>

> OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the specific

> signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything else,i was

bitten

> by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main carriers of lymes

(so

> i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the testing and i

> cannot find the results right now.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> >>But, i am confused as of wether i should start the hc when it

comes

> in the mail or not.<<

>

> try the Isocort for now. It can't hurt and less ios alwasy better

with adrenal meds, I just haven't seen the healing wiht Isocort that

I see with HC.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after

Xmas!!!)

>

http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

Ok thanks valerie i will stick with the isocort for a bit before

doing anyhting else.

I know everyone is different but,are there any specific side effects

that are generally normal,and when should i expect to see any

positive changes.

And last but not least when should i begin tapering off of it.

>

[Guest guest]

er, are you a moderator?

Lynda

----- Original Message -----

> Please remember this is a Adrenal and Thyroid website

> Thanks

> Jeff

[Guest guest]

I've read that Lyme has now mutated and you can get it

from a mosquito bite.

--- hamerreda3 wrote:

>

> >

> > Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does

> not test

> positive for

> > Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken

> that can kill

> Lyme. Since

> > it can change its antigen profile on its coat and

> hide from the

> immune

> > system, one must kill some first. When some of

> the bugs die,

> their antigens

> > become visable to the immune system and then your

> system can make

> antibodies

> > to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc

> is testing and

> testing for

> > it without you ever having taken the appropriate

> antibiotic, then

> the bug

> > can be invisible.

> >

> > Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a

> month after the

> doxy

> > course, can make it visible if it is there. But

> my sweats were

> from Babesia

> > which was transmitted along with the Lyme during

> the tic bite.

> Babesia is

> > similar to maleria.

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

>

> OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the

> specific

> signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything

> else,i was bitten

> by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main

> carriers of lymes (so

> i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the

> testing and i

> cannot find the results right now.

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yes, but Lyme could be the root cause of

thyroid/adrenal issues.

--- j531234 wrote:

> Please remember this is a Adrenal and Thyroid

> website

> Thanks

> Jeff

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one

> does not test

> > positive for

> > > Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been

> taken that can kill

> > Lyme. Since

> > > it can change its antigen profile on its coat

> and hide from the

> > immune

> > > system, one must kill some first. When some of

> the bugs die,

> > their antigens

> > > become visable to the immune system and then

> your system can

> make

> > antibodies

> > > to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your

> doc is testing and

> > testing for

> > > it without you ever having taken the appropriate

> antibiotic,

> then

> > the bug

> > > can be invisible.

> > >

> > > Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting

> a month after

> the

> > doxy

> > > course, can make it visible if it is there. But

> my sweats were

> > from Babesia

> > > which was transmitted along with the Lyme

> during the tic bite.

> > Babesia is

> > > similar to maleria.

> > >

> > > -------Original Message-------

> > >

> >

> > OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the

> specific

> > signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything

> else,i was

> bitten

> > by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main

> carriers of lymes

> (so

> > i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the

> testing and i

> > cannot find the results right now.

> >

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

" OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the specific

signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything else,i was bitten

by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main carriers of lymes (so

i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the testing and i

cannot find the results right now. "

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[Guest guest]

Jeff:

I will try to remember that with my faulty memory, as well as avoiding

caffeine!

-- Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

Please remember this is a Adrenal and Thyroid website

Thanks

Jeff

> >

> > Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does not test

> positive for

> > Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken that can kill

> Lyme. Since

> > it can change its antigen profile on its coat and hide from the

> immune

> > system, one must kill some first. When some of the bugs die,

> their antigens

> > become visable to the immune system and then your system can

make

> antibodies

> > to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc is testing and

> testing for

> > it without you ever having taken the appropriate antibiotic,

then

> the bug

> > can be invisible.

> >

> > Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a month after

the

> doxy

> > course, can make it visible if it is there. But my sweats were

> from Babesia

> > which was transmitted along with the Lyme during the tic bite.

> Babesia is

> > similar to maleria.

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

>

> OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the specific

> signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything else,i was

bitten

> by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main carriers of lymes

(so

> i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the testing and i

> cannot find the results right now.

>

[Guest guest]

Ditto!

-- Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

er, are you a moderator?

Lynda

----- Original Message -----

> Please remember this is a Adrenal and Thyroid website

> Thanks

> Jeff

[Guest guest]

Oh thanks for reminding me . Lyme trashed my thyroid as well.

-- Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

Yes, but Lyme could be the root cause of

thyroid/adrenal issues.

--- j531234 wrote:

> Please remember this is a Adrenal and Thyroid

> website

> Thanks

> Jeff

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one

> does not test

> > positive for

> > > Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been

> taken that can kill

> > Lyme. Since

> > > it can change its antigen profile on its coat

> and hide from the

> > immune

> > > system, one must kill some first. When some of

> the bugs die,

> > their antigens

> > > become visable to the immune system and then

> your system can

> make

> > antibodies

> > > to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your

> doc is testing and

> > testing for

> > > it without you ever having taken the appropriate

> antibiotic,

> then

> > the bug

> > > can be invisible.

> > >

> > > Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting

> a month after

> the

> > doxy

> > > course, can make it visible if it is there. But

> my sweats were

> > from Babesia

> > > which was transmitted along with the Lyme

> during the tic bite.

> > Babesia is

> > > similar to maleria.

> > >

> > > -------Original Message-------

> > >

> >

> > OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the

> specific

> > signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything

> else,i was

> bitten

> > by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main

> carriers of lymes

> (so

> > i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the

> testing and i

> > cannot find the results right now.

> >

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

There are many strains of Lyme. The CDC and medical profession hide the

fact that it is transmitted by bugs other than tics.

The disease trashed my adrenals gradually, starting first with growth

hormone, progesterone, then graduated to estrogen and cortisol and other

adrenal hormones.

-- Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

I've read that Lyme has now mutated and you can get it

from a mosquito bite.

--- hamerreda3 wrote:

>

> >

> > Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does

> not test

> positive for

> > Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken

> that can kill

> Lyme. Since

> > it can change its antigen profile on its coat and

> hide from the

> immune

> > system, one must kill some first. When some of

> the bugs die,

> their antigens

> > become visable to the immune system and then your

> system can make

> antibodies

> > to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc

> is testing and

> testing for

> > it without you ever having taken the appropriate

> antibiotic, then

> the bug

> > can be invisible.

> >

> > Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a

> month after the

> doxy

> > course, can make it visible if it is there. But

> my sweats were

> from Babesia

> > which was transmitted along with the Lyme during

> the tic bite.

> Babesia is

> > similar to maleria.

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

>

> OK thanks for that peice of info,what are the

> specific

> signs/symptoms of lyme which deffer from anything

> else,i was bitten

> by a large tic,smaller deer tick are the main

> carriers of lymes (so

> i was told,i do not remember the lab that did the

> testing and i

> cannot find the results right now.

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

thats good to know thanks

--- " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. "

wrote:

> Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does

> not test positive for

> Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken

> that can kill Lyme. Since

> it can change its antigen profile on its coat and

> hide from the immune

> system, one must kill some first. When some of the

> bugs die, their antigens

> become visable to the immune system and then your

> system can make antibodies

> to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc is

> testing and testing for

> it without you ever having taken the appropriate

> antibiotic, then the bug

> can be invisible.

>

> Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a

> month after the doxy

> course, can make it visible if it is there. But my

> sweats were from Babesia

> which was transmitted along with the Lyme during

> the tic bite. Babesia is

> similar to maleria.

>

> -- Re: Weird but positive

> symptom change.

>

>

> >

> > Night sweats are associated with parasites like

> Lyme and Babesia.

> Not

> > saying that is what is causing yours, but my night

> sweats from

> Babesia, were

> > far different than the hot flashes I had when I

> went into menopause.

> >

>

> Well as far as parasites,i'm not sure,i know i don't

> have lymes,i have

> been tested for it about 4 times in the past 2

> yrs,as everytime i went

> to a doctor and told them my symptoms that's the

> first thing that they

> come up with.

> I have been tested for the different forms of lymes

> also.

> Got up this morning dry as ever lol.

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

> There are many strains of Lyme. The CDC and medical profession

hide the

> fact that it is transmitted by bugs other than tics.

>

> The disease trashed my adrenals gradually, starting first with

growth

> hormone, progesterone, then graduated to estrogen and cortisol and

other

> adrenal hormones.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: > >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

>

> > Different forms of Lyme Disease?? Often, one does

> > not test positive for

> > Lyme until a course of antibiotics has been taken

> > that can kill Lyme. Since

> > it can change its antigen profile on its coat and

> > hide from the immune

> > system, one must kill some first. When some of the

> > bugs die, their antigens

> > become visable to the immune system and then your

> > system can make antibodies

> > to it. Not saying you have Lyme, but if your doc is

> > testing and testing for

> > it without you ever having taken the appropriate

> > antibiotic, then the bug

> > can be invisible.

> >

> > Doxycycline for a month or so and then retesting a

> > month after the doxy

> > course, can make it visible if it is there. But my

> > sweats were from Babesia

> > which was transmitted along with the Lyme during

> > the tic bite. Babesia is

> > similar to maleria.

> >

So basically if i find out i have lymes after all this time from it

going undetected,and untreated,i basically am a hopeless case?

From what i have learned is that lymes can be cured upon early

detection.

Just trying to get the facts straight,i have to find the lymes

results.

The doctor i go to uses some of the best labs for most testing

(dda,aal etc..) but i'm just not sure which lab did the test.

> >

>

> >

> >

> >

> > [

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

The IGenX western blot is thought to be accurate but there is also research

from California showing that the Lyme bugs had their own parasites of a sort

in the form of a virus, that has the same DNA profile of Lyme. My Lyme doc

does not believe in the virus (stealth virus that was a bacteriophage

predating on Lyme bugs). There is also the Q RIBb test which I have not had

yet.

There are several newer tests for Lyme. The Bowen lab will actually try to

culture the bugs from a tissue sample. Bowen labs have a website.

http://www.bowen.org/NewSite/LymeDisease.html

Here is the stealth virus research web address... http://www.ccid.org/

The PCR test will only find Lyme bugs that have recently died leaving

particles of DNA in the urine. So the PCR test is useless unless one is

being treated and shedding dead bugs in their urine.

I am mercury toxic as well and my Lyme doc recommended removal of my

amalgams. Two of my docs realized I was also having adrenal problems and

treated me with Cortef.

-- Re: Weird but positive symptom change.

>

> There are many strains of Lyme. The CDC and medical profession

hide the

> fact that it is transmitted by bugs other than tics.

>

> The disease trashed my adrenals gradually, starting first with

growth

> hormone, progesterone, then graduated to estrogen and cortisol and

other

> adrenal hormones.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: > >

>

> __________________________________________________

>