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I have not tried an intervention, nor do I think it would be a good

idea. I think confronting a BP would only confirm their worldview

that everyone is out to get them, especially if all the people

conducting the intervention were painted black. I think it would

make things worse.

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> So I know I've asked this before, but never heard from anyone and

thought I throw it out there again. Has anyone tried or know of

another who has tried an intervention. This is the only thing I can

think of that had not been tried. I know I could gather about 13

people all currently painted black. I wouldn't want to do this if

it would make things worse, but then...how could it get worse

besides suicide. And would that be worse?. I hope that's not

sickly awful, but my BPD has created so much emotional, social and

mental pain for herself and others that I truly wonder. Any

thoughts on this?

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As with any damaged person I would think this would have to be approached very

carefully. An intervention can, if not handled properly, devolve into a gang up.

On the other hand the confrontation cannot be dismissed if a number of people

are telling someone the exact same thing: your behavior is causing us damage and

we want you to be aware of it. I think that is the most you can hope for with a

BPD,to make them aware of the damage they do knowing that they may be incapable

of change. They will never accept responsibility for their behavior, but they

might be made aware that a number of people are being hurt by them. It might

make them think. If you are considering an intervention, make sure you have

objective third party mitigation there to help out, a therapist or clergy

member. Someone who appreciates BPD. I have never had any experience with this

but I do remember that the way ex-President Ford and his family conducted their

intervention with Betty

Ford over her drug and alcohol addiction was probably the best run intervention

to date. It is certainly well documented in her autobiography. You might want to

use that as a model. Good luck.

Be strong

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So I know I've asked this before, but never heard from anyone and thought I

throw it out there again.. Has anyone tried or know of another who has tried an

intervention. This is the only thing I can think of that had not been tried. I

know I could gather about 13 people all currently painted black. I wouldn't want

to do this if it would make things worse, but then...how could it get worse

besides suicide. And would that be worse?. I hope that's not sickly awful, but

my BPD has created so much emotional, social and mental pain for herself and

others that I truly wonder. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks.

JaneSoul

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i don't see an intervention being something positive, especially if

the bpd in your life is at all prone to paranoid delusions. this will

just allow them to say, " SEE!??! you ARE talking about me behind my

back!! you're trying to CONTROL ME! " after unmitigated rage, i do

see the bpd turning to suicidal threats to get people to feel guilty.

what could this lead to... hospitalization? maybe. suicide?

maybe. more black paint? maybe. breakthrough? probably not.

sorry to be such a cynic, but i just don't see it being a positive

expenditure of your energy.

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I'm not sure that intervention is a tool that needs to be applied to

something like this. It is used in addiction because people are making

the point that it is not the person in question, but their

progressively out of control addiction to a substance, that is causing

the pain to themselves and those around them. An intervention for a

personality disorder or mental illness is the opposite because it says

that 'YOU are the problem'. Since bpd/npd people seem pathologically

shame-based it's possible that they don't have the cognitive

processing skills for something like that to do any good.

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Yes, unfortunately it seems that denial and projection are part of

the BPD arsenal, so admitting that they have a deep seated problem

isn't something they're likely to do.

BPDs just won't be convinced that they're the problem. An addict

can be convinced that the drug he's choosing is destroying his life,

and that those around him aren't going to prop it up anymore.

But I've thought about it myself, so you're not alone in your

thinking. I just see it as so hopeless, as my mom won't entertain

the notion that there's anything wrong with her.

-Kyla

> >

> > So I know I've asked this before, but never heard from anyone

and

> thought I throw it out there again. Has anyone tried or know of

> another who has tried an intervention. This is the only thing I

can

> think of that had not been tried. I know I could gather about 13

> people all currently painted black. I wouldn't want to do this if

> it would make things worse, but then...how could it get worse

> besides suicide. And would that be worse?. I hope that's not

> sickly awful, but my BPD has created so much emotional, social and

> mental pain for herself and others that I truly wonder. Any

> thoughts on this?

> > Thanks.

> >

> > JaneSoul

> >

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> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> ____________ ___

> > You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you one month of

> Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

> > http://tc.deals. yahoo.com/ tc/blockbuster/ text5.com

> >

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i've tried an intervention before with my dad on my side and my mom

just turned into a crying pitiful mess. we succeeded in getting her

to confront some parts of her (after she was done projecting all over

us), but it resulted in a big depression that my mom has no way of

dealing with. she just sinks into despair when she thinks about the

way things have been. she can't cope. it looks insurmountable to her

and she doesn't think anything will ever change. i don't think she

likes being this way any more than i do. the only way it would work

is if you already had a psychologist familiar with bpd lined up and

ready to see your mom like, THAT DAY or the next day because by the

time my mom gets over things, she's back to acting like nothing is

wrong again.

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> > > So I know I've asked this before, but never heard from anyone

> and

> > thought I throw it out there again. Has anyone tried or know of

> > another who has tried an intervention. This is the only thing I

> can

> > think of that had not been tried. I know I could gather about 13

> > people all currently painted black. I wouldn't want to do this if

> > it would make things worse, but then...how could it get worse

> > besides suicide. And would that be worse?. I hope that's not

> > sickly awful, but my BPD has created so much emotional, social and

> > mental pain for herself and others that I truly wonder. Any

> > thoughts on this?

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > JaneSoul

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > ____________ ___

> > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you one month of

> > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

> > > http://tc.deals. yahoo.com/ tc/blockbuster/ text5.com

> > >

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