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My daughter has seizures but she had brain abnormalities. She was on the same

medication as Landon but it did not help her. Different meds work on different

kids. When Ally has a fever her seizures are much more frequent than normally.

There is a new family on the list with a newborn named Lea and they are also

from Alabama!!!! Maybe you could get together with them.

Robin mom to Ally 20 mths CHARGE

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In a message dated 5/9/00 9:01:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

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<< My question is this-do seizures go along with CHARGE? >>

Dear ,

I can't answer for everyone, but my son Tryny (who is 6 years old now) has

seizures (and every kind there is). He has grand mal, petite mal, convulsive

and febrile seizures. Tryny started having them at about 7 months old. We

have been through 3 different medications in the past and he is now on

Depakene, Dilantin and Topamax. His grand mal seizures have decreased lately

which is a blessing, but the febrile seizures are hard to control (due to

Tryny also having Shapiro Syndrome). Tryny's temperature can shoot to 105.2

with no given notice (and can drop to 94.4 just as fast). And I indeed know

how scary they can be. Have your neurologist check the corpus colasum on the

next MRI. Tryny's is very thin (at first they thought it was none existent).

I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the seizures or not, but it

never hurts to know everything about the brain. My other son Zak (who is 8

months old) seems to have some seizure-like activity at times, but we know

that his brain is abnormal so we expected that. (Oh, and by the way since

you are new to the list and don't know many of us yet, both of my CHARGErs

are adopted so there is no biological connection between them). If I can

ever be of any help in how to deal with the seizures or just to have a

shoulder to lean on, don't hesitate to write. Everyone on this list is

fantastic and has helped me so much, I welcome the chance to give something

back. Email me through the list or privately anytime. I may not get back to

you the same day as I sometimes can't get to my computer everyday (Zak is

still in the hospital, Tryny is in and out of the hospital all the time and I

have

a bunch of other children (7 children total and 3 grandbabies), but I love my

communication with my family on the list, it helps to know there are so many

people who care.

Debra

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Thanks, not so sure about the wisdom but my " experience " is sure getting

greater. With " 2 " of them, if one isn't throwing something at me the other

one is. Zak is still in the hospital but I'm hoping to have him home by June

(or everyone around the globe will hear me when I let the doc's have it). He

had his nissen surgery done (the hospital in kansas said they had done one,

but we have found out different). And Tryny has surgery on his nose tomorrow

to find the source of a mysterious infection he has had for 14 weeks now.

Tryny has been in and out of the hospital 3 times as an inpatient in the last

2 months, and in the ER 9 times for everything from seizures to a mysterious

rash on his arms and legs, that comes and goes, but when it comes it's bad.

He has several scars from it so far (just what Tryny needs, more scars...)

As for Zak, they have taken him off the vent today and put him on c-pap.

Hopefully they can have him back on the trach collar by the time he comes

home. But he is growing so big, he now weighs 14 pounds and 9 ounces (and he

is now 8 months old). He plays with his hands, toys and of course all the

tubes coming out of him. He smiles and has this " airy " laugh. He is such a

cutie.

I hope to have more time now to keep up on the list and respond. Hopefully

things will start going more smoothly here.

Debra

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Debra:

Just wanted to say it's nice to see you back on the list sharing your wisdom & experience with everyone. I've been missing hearing from you. I hope all is doing well for "the boyz"...:) I can't wait til Indy to see them next year!Mom to Kennedy 2yr old CHARGEr, 10, 9, and wife to GraemeNew Brunswick, CanadaVisit the "Weir homepage" at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/5716ICQ #1426476

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Debra,

I just shake my head in amazement everytime you tell us how things are going...I don't know how you do it girl!

I hope you get Zaky home for June, it'll be nice to be home in the summer. Give them both a big hug from me...

Mom to Kennedy 2yr old CHARGEr, 10, 9, and wife to GraemeNew Brunswick, CanadaVisit the "Weir homepage" at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/5716ICQ #1426476

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,Thanks, not so sure about the wisdom but my "experience" is sure getting greater. With "2" of them, if one isn't throwing something at me the other one is. Zak is still in the hospital but I'm hoping to have him home by June (or everyone around the globe will hear me when I let the doc's have it). He had his nissen surgery done (the hospital in kansas said they had done one, but we have found out different). And Tryny has surgery on his nose tomorrow to find the source of a mysterious infection he has had for 14 weeks now. Tryny has been in and out of the hospital 3 times as an inpatient in the last 2 months, and in the ER 9 times for everything from seizures to a mysterious rash on his arms and legs, that comes and goes, but when it comes it's bad. He has several scars from it so far (just what Tryny needs, more scars...)As for Zak, they have taken him off the vent today and put him on c-pap. Hopefully they can have him back on the trach collar by the time he comes home. But he is growing so big, he now weighs 14 pounds and 9 ounces (and he is now 8 months old). He plays with his hands, toys and of course all the tubes coming out of him. He smiles and has this "airy" laugh. He is such a cutie. I hope to have more time now to keep up on the list and respond. Hopefully things will start going more smoothly here.Debra

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Debra,

welcome to the Charge family. Hope your little one comes home soon.

Good luck

Angie Mother to 7yrs, 5yrs, 3yrs and - 2yrs old

Charger

wife to

Ontario, Canada

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Hi All,

I just wanted everyone to know that yesterday we brought ZAK home !!!!!!!!!

It is sooooooooo great to see him laying in " his own bed - in his own home " .

This is the best Mother's Day present I can get. " ALL " my children home.

I haven't been able to get respite care for 11pm to 7am yet and I'm hoping

they get someone soon as my daughter Niki has started a new job and she works

3am to 9am Sunday thru Thursday. So I have her help tonight and tomorrow but

as of Sunday, if I don't get someone to sit with Zak at night, looks like I

will be handling both boys at night. Not sure how that will work as they are

in two different rooms, Tryny still has apnea all night from midnight to 6am

and Zak has to be suctioned every 2 hours, but I'll get it done somehow,

always do.

Zak is so different, he weighs 15 pounds now, plays with toys and hands and

rolls everywhere. He is a " baby " this time at home (and not just someone we

can only look as), we can actually play with him.

Just wanted to share my " good news " .

Debra

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In a message dated 12/27/01 11:07:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,

myfishruleWJG@... writes:

> Thank you for letting me join your group. My is 2 1/2 years old and

> diagnosed with autism nov 1. We are setting up services with her now. She

> only gets 3 hours of therapy with early intervention right now I'm waiting

> for paperwork to go threw for more. We just had an evaluation/meeting with

> a

> psychiatrist that works for a private agency to get her wraparound

> services.

> They are offering us 12 hours a week of therapy DTT. My husband is

> concerned

> that this may interfere with the progress that she's made with Early

> Intervention. " This better not make her worse " quote unquote thank you for

> your support cause it's probably the only place that I'll get any.

>

> Sincerely

>

>

Hi ,

I'm Ron. Step dad to Alec 10, NVLD, Sam 4, autistic and Abbie 3, PDD. I

hope you enjoy the list. Lot's of support here.

As far as further treatment making a child worse, Emory U. in Atlanta told us

the more we bombard the little ones with services and education, the better

off they are. The theory is, it forces them to use part of the brain that

would not ordinarily be used otherwise...hence, a better developed child.

Ron

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Welcome !

We are a very fun group and the best support you'll get, without doubt.

Sounds like you are well under way for just getting a dx a couple months

ago! Good for you!

Where are you from? And why exactly do your " fish rule " ?

Penny

Mom to Jacqui 6, HFA

Jeff 19, NT I guess

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> Thank you for letting me join your group. My is 2 1/2 years old and

> diagnosed with autism nov 1. We are setting up services with her now.

She

> only gets 3 hours of therapy with early intervention right now I'm waiting

> for paperwork to go threw for more. We just had an evaluation/meeting

with a

> psychiatrist that works for a private agency to get her wraparound

services.

> They are offering us 12 hours a week of therapy DTT. My husband is

concerned

> that this may interfere with the progress that she's made with Early

> Intervention. " This better not make her worse " quote unquote thank you

for

> your support cause it's probably the only place that I'll get any.

:

My son was totally non-verbal at three and he made wonderful progress in a

DTT classroom that our public school system has. The first year he only

went half days and I was frantic to get him more services because, with

autism, the more the better. Nearly all ways of teaching children with

autism recommend intensive one on one therapy of some kind, usually for

20-40 hours per week. Children with autism do vary more, perhaps, even than

NT kids, but still you should find that 12 hours of DTT is very very

beneficial.

Your husband is scared. It is aggravating and frustrating to have feel as

if you are in different places regarding 's dx and treatment, but it is

very common for fathers to be a bit slower on this. It's easier said than

done, but try to go easy on him and let him accept this blow at his own

speed (but don't compromise your daughter's treatment either and THAT is

definitely the hard part).

Salli

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,

Greetings and Welcome! Well you have come to the right place. All of here can

totally understand what you are going through! I am the Mom of 4. Both boys are

on the spectrum, though they are both high functioning, there are still many

challenges. We just started the process of having my youngest evaled as she is

showing some signs that remind us of when the boys were her age.

Looking forward to getting to know you!

CHRIS

and

Parents of:

Sully 10-94 (AS)

Chenoa 6-96 (NT Mild Speech Delay)

Trevayne 3-98 (PDDNOS, Significant Speech Delay)

and

set 12-99 (Significant Speech Delay)

Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:03 AM

Subject: new member

Thank you for letting me join your group. My is 2 1/2 years old and

diagnosed with autism nov 1. We are setting up services with her now. She

only gets 3 hours of therapy with early intervention right now I'm waiting

for paperwork to go threw for more. We just had an evaluation/meeting with a

psychiatrist that works for a private agency to get her wraparound services.

They are offering us 12 hours a week of therapy DTT. My husband is concerned

that this may interfere with the progress that she's made with Early

Intervention. " This better not make her worse " quote unquote thank you for

your support cause it's probably the only place that I'll get any.

Sincerely

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LOL - I just really love my fish - plus about 3 years ago when I started

" online " every name I picked was already taken. I'm not really sure now the

name happened but we had all had a few beers at the time LOL. Now everyone

is so use to it I keep it. When I find myself getting really stressed out

I'll just watch my fish and pretend I'm in there. It's very peaceful and you

know everything is ok there and no one is judging you or looking down on you

or feeling sorry for you. In my next life I hope I come back as a fish LOL.

I life near Philly PA, we're about an hour or so from NYC. There are support

groups in Philly but you couldn't pay me to drive there... I'm a timid

driver.

Thanks for the welcome.

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Hi !

You'll find lots of support here! It sounds great that they are offering

you the DTT already. We never had any of that here! Grab for all the

services you can get!

Sue in Michigan,

Mom to , 11, HFA, ADD

, 8, HFA, ADD

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I never did welcome you properly, - welcome!

For my money, I can't imagine why your dh would think DTT would hurt --

IMHO, it's better to try and try than to discount something before you see what

it does! There's always the chance it won't be appropriate for her, but I

don't think it can make her worse...my son was one for whom it wasn't

appropriate, but we did take a few things away from it and integrated them into

daily life with huge success!

Welcome again,

Jacquie

mom to , 5

Parenting Autism moderator

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In a message dated 12/28/2001 9:23:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vhunnius@... writes:

> For my money, I can't imagine why your dh would think DTT would hurt

> -- IMHO, it's better to try and try than to discount something before you

> see what it does!

My husband is having a really hard time excepting the diagnois... actually

it's really easy to dismiss when you don't see her around other kids. She's

friendly, and happy, and beautiful. But she won't talk, she spins and spins

and spins and her arms and legs are like jello. He has two older kids with

his ex wife and they are perfectly normal. 6 months ago before we started

intervention she was just like rainman - no eye contact at all, would just

roam threw the house aimlessly destroying things, I couldn't get her to focus

on anything. I think he's scared that she's going to stop the playing and

stuff that she's gained in the past 6 months. There is so much to be afraid

of isn't there?

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Thanks Sue. I'm going to wait until they have my therapist come out and then

I'll have her break everything down to me. I already told her coordinator

that I will not do strict aba becuase even if she never talks to me she's a

very happy child. I want her to be happy that's the most important thing.

Not to say that if she screams or cries I'll stop the therapy but I'm not

going to do something that I know won't work. Plus whose to say what doesn't

work today might not work in 6 months? So I give everything 3-6 months and

see the progress. We have a camcorder and once a month I record her

sessions. When I'm ready I sit down and pick out the stregths and any

progress. So far she's doing great but has stopped any progress since her

diagnois.

:)

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The DTT is to help her continue to make progress, not take it away. Have

they described it in much detail to you? If not, have them. If they try

something and it doesn't work, they should change the attempt, not force her

to do it their way. I think this is where the Trial part comes in.

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Welcome !

Kerri

Mom to:

Mitchel 6, Autistic

9 - NT

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under the flag of tolerance, democracy and freedom. "

-Walt Disney

new member

Thank you for letting me join your group. My is 2 1/2 years old and

diagnosed with autism nov 1. We are setting up services with her now. She

only gets 3 hours of therapy with early intervention right now I'm waiting

for paperwork to go threw for more. We just had an evaluation/meeting with a

psychiatrist that works for a private agency to get her wraparound services.

They are offering us 12 hours a week of therapy DTT. My husband is concerned

that this may interfere with the progress that she's made with Early

Intervention. " This better not make her worse " quote unquote thank you for

your support cause it's probably the only place that I'll get any.

Sincerely

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Hi Lauri,

Welcome! Please take some time to read the info that was sent to you

when you joined. It will give you a good foundation of information to

work from. We have a tremendous amount of resources available

here...take a look in the Files and the archives as well.

<<My therapist suggested I start

taking 10g Celexa 3yrs ago when I was morbidly obese and about to

undergo the gastric bypass surgery. I stayed on Celexa after surgery

since my hormones were out of whack while losing 100 lbs. Then I got

laid off last year and went into a spiral depression .... my Celexa

was increased to 20g. I feel great now and have started seeing a

nutritionist. She is suggesting I wean myself off Celexa and use

natural herbs (St. 's Wort) instead. Has anyone had luck doing

this?>>

***Whatever caused your obesity--and it was NOT a lack of will power

or any other psychological cause (unless someone planted a

post-hypnotic suggestion for you to eat uncontrollably), also caused

your emotional symptoms. When a body is so out of whack as to become

morbidly obese, there are bound to be emotional symptoms along with

the physical ones. I think it's scandalous that they drugged you AND

put your body through such a traumatic process instead of finding what

was wrong and fixing it.

The way to address your symptoms is with diet and supplements. I

realize you have some pretty strong limitations on what your stomach

can handle, so your diet will have to be adapted to your needs.

Supplements are also based on individual needs.

Proper diet and supplements are also required to help you wean off the

Celexa and heal from the damage the drug has done to you.

We can help you with these things. For an individual protocol,

because your situation is more complex than some, I recommend you have

a private consultation with .

Please feel free to take advantage of all the information available in

the Files, and feel free to ask lots of questions.

We're glad to have you here!

Regards,

Kim

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hello,

and also I read, siberian ginseng and vit B6 also

was not suggested with celexa.

bye

> > Hi everyone ... I am a newbie here. My therapist suggested I

start

> taking 10g Celexa 3yrs ago when I was morbidly obese and about to

> undergo the gastric bypass surgery. I stayed on Celexa after

surgery

> since my hormones were out of whack while losing 100 lbs. Then I

got

> laid off last year and went into a spiral depression .... my Celexa

> was increased to 20g. I feel great now and have started seeing a

> nutritionist. She is suggesting I wean myself off Celexa and use

> natural herbs (St. 's Wort) instead. Has anyone had luck doing

> this?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Lauri in Atlanta

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-How long ago did you quit the drug?

its been about 2-3 years since Ive been off zoloft.

-Do you have a name please, we all prefer to be able to call you

something, it's more personal??

daniel

-Can you tell us how you stopped the Zoloft? Did you just stop them

or did you do some kind of taper?

I tapered off within a week with withdraw syptoms

-Also, could you tell us what your diet is like, are you on any other

form of medication and are you taking any supplements?

I am asian, so I eat much rice, beef, lettuce, sometimes fish hard

to name some foods ingredients but varies a lot. no medication, noe

supplements taking right now.

>

> Hi _____________,

>

> Welcome to the group! I'm glad you found us!

>

> Please take some time to read all the materials you received when

you

> joined. There is a tremendous amount of general information in

there

> about how to recover from these drugs. There is additional

> information in the group Files--we try to make as much availabl;e

as

> possible.

>

> We'll be delighted to answer specific questions you have about the

materials.

>

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>

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Hi ,

Have you had a chance to look at some of the articles we sent you?

The Basic Healing Protocol and Eating for Recovery are a good place to

start, so you can understand how to help your body heal from the

damage that has occurred.

There are some basic supplements that are helpful to everyone.

Also, in order to be helpful to you, it's important to know more about

you and your history, and the symptoms that are troubling you now.

Take a look at " How to ask a Health Question " to help you get started

with that.

Regards,

Kim

co-moderator

> -How long ago did you quit the drug?

>

> its been about 2-3 years since Ive been off zoloft.

>

> -Do you have a name please, we all prefer to be able to call you

> something, it's more personal??

>

> daniel

>

> -Can you tell us how you stopped the Zoloft? Did you just stop them

> or did you do some kind of taper?

>

> I tapered off within a week with withdraw syptoms

>

> -Also, could you tell us what your diet is like, are you on any other

> form of medication and are you taking any supplements?

>

> I am asian, so I eat much rice, beef, lettuce, sometimes fish hard

> to name some foods ingredients but varies a lot. no medication, noe

> supplements taking right now.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi _____________,

> >

> > Welcome to the group! I'm glad you found us!

> >

> > Please take some time to read all the materials you received when

> you

> > joined. There is a tremendous amount of general information in

> there

> > about how to recover from these drugs. There is additional

> > information in the group Files--we try to make as much availabl;e

> as

> > possible.

> >

> > We'll be delighted to answer specific questions you have about the

> materials.

> >

> C

> >

> > Regards,

> > Kim

> > co-moderator

> >

> > --

> > Visit my art blog at http://kimdenise.blogspot.com/.

> >

> > " Thanks to my work everything's going well " --Claude Monet

> >

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Hi All,

I'm 26 and from england in Leicester. My hobbies are reading, sending

emails, movies, chatting online and music.

I'm a student and gonna do IT in september and completed admin since

last april. I have 2 brothers and 4 sisters and one rabbit. Anyway

that is all 4 now and I'm also have aspergers syndrome. Susie

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