Re: face blindness tests

[Guest guest]

Interesting test. On the " familiar faces " test, I got 100%

correct... on the " old/new faces " test, I got 82% correct.

When I was younger, I used to be one of those proverbial " names

escape me, but I never forget a face " people. Over the past few

years or so, this " mixed blessing " seems to have faded somewhat, though.

> Kinda of weird, as I never watch TV, but I got a lot of the faces

> right in the " familiar faces " test. But not as many as I got right on

> the " total strangers " (old face/new face, but I didn't KNOW any of

> the faces) test. I went by the eyebrows. That was the main thing I

> used to memorize them.

[Guest guest]

Rhonda wrote:

> Kinda of weird, as I never watch TV, but I got a lot of the faces

> right in the " familiar faces " test. But not as many as I got right

> on the " total strangers " (old face/new face, but I didn't KNOW any

> of the faces) test. I went by the eyebrows. That was the main thing

> I used to memorize them.

I got 100% of the celebrity faces, but only 66% of the old/new faces.

That second test was much harder, because the pictures were too dark,

and you couldn't really see the outlines of the faces very well.

Clay

[Guest guest]

I have never thought my self to have propognasia.

I got 98 percent on famous faces.

http://www.icn.ucl.ac.uk/facetests/ff/ff_process.php

I got 86 percent with the other test.

http://www.icn.ucl.ac.uk/facetests/oldnew/oldnew_process.php

K

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>I have never thought my self to have propognasia.

>I got 98 percent on famous faces.

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facetests/ff/ff_process.php

>I got 86 percent with the other test.

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l.ac.uk/facetests/oldnew/oldnew_process.php

I do consider myself faceblind, and I did better on those tests than

I expected. There was a discussion of the tests going on in the

online prosop group. Here's what I said:

----begin self quote:

Yes, I suspect my autistic pattern-recognition abilities (and I'm

nowhere near the top among autistics in that area) helped me

recognize which patterns -- oops, I mean: faces -- I had seen before.

;-) Some of the shapes were distinctive -- the shape in which the

face had been cut out, that is. And a few of the faces had memorable

patterns of lines (literal lines and things like eyebrows). If I had

*met* all those people, spent an hour sitting and talking to them,

and then had to pick them out of a crowd an hour later....I'd do far,

far worse (unless they were all wearing clothing that happened to be

memorable to me).

I also wonder why they chose to use all women's faces. (That's what

they said they did, so I'll take their word for it.) Women can

highlight their features distinctively with make-up. When I saw

someone with a distinctive pattern of make-up, what I subsequently

recognized was the make-up, not the person. Change the make-up, that

person " disappears. "

----end quote.

Jane

[Guest guest]

After all Jane, when 'face to face' with people, the reaction is, ''look

away,'' as in little to

no eye contact. So that makes sense when doing the test, one is told 'look

AT this face.''

In a normal setting one may not..

K

Jane said:

>

> I do consider myself faceblind, and I did better on those tests than

> I expected. There was a discussion of the tests going on in the

> online prosop group. Here's what I said:

>

> ----begin self quote:

>

> Yes, I suspect my autistic pattern-recognition abilities (and I'm

> nowhere near the top among autistics in that area) helped me

> recognize which patterns -- oops, I mean: faces -- I had seen before.

> ;-) Some of the shapes were distinctive -- the shape in which the

> face had been cut out, that is. And a few of the faces had memorable

> patterns of lines (literal lines and things like eyebrows). If I had

> *met* all those people, spent an hour sitting and talking to them,

> and then had to pick them out of a crowd an hour later....I'd do far,

> far worse (unless they were all wearing clothing that happened to be

> memorable to me).

>

> I also wonder why they chose to use all women's faces. (That's what

> they said they did, so I'll take their word for it.) Women can

> highlight their features distinctively with make-up. When I saw

> someone with a distinctive pattern of make-up, what I subsequently

> recognized was the make-up, not the person. Change the make-up, that

> person " disappears. "

>

> ----end quote.

>

> Jane

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That reminds me.... when we first got a television, back in the days

of black and white only, I was about 5. The program on was " My

Favorite Martian. " I remember my dad saying " See the martian? Right

here in the screen! " It was like that optical illusion " Is it a vase

or is it two faces? " I was looking at a black place around the edges

and a white place in the middle. Suddenly it " switched " and I could

see the face with the darker areas being background. It certainly was

not " intuitive " to me at all to see a face on TV.

I was at the church I am STILL in the process of applying to today. I

looked at a lot of people and said hi, and knew most of them looked

familiar, and then a lot of them didn't look all *that* familiar

although I was pretty sure I had seen them before. And some of the

ones I knew, when I looked at them, I thought " I am going to miss

this person's name or face if I run into them in the grocery store(

the dreaded Food Lion with the damn radio!) I felt a bit

disheartened, which I have been feeling since yesterday when I

got " lost " looking for my brother and husband. They were supposed to

meet me somewhere. so I went there, only they weren't there. For some

reason I got confused and afraid, so went to the OTHER place I

thought they could be. They weren't there either. I ended up feeling

frantic enough that when I went back to the first place, someone who

knows me a bit said " Are you OK? " I must have looked lost and scared,

I guess. Anyway, as I was driving my car, all of a sudden the thought

popped into my head, " Maybe I am driving the WRONG CAR?.... Nope,

because that wouldn't make a difference. The streets are the same.

The problem is THEY are missing, not ME. " DUH! That's how confused I

got. Something was wrong and it was like I was on a different planet.

I just mention that on the face blindness thread because I read

something that people with faceblindness can get lost. I apparently

not only lost my family, but started thinking I must be going to the

wrong place (even though I was not) and ended up thinking I must be

lost or in the wrong car! Even though I wasn't.

Mostly I just kept thinking " Whatever it is, it's my fault. " Turns

out they had decided to come back to our house. Nothing too

complicated. But I didn't know that. I then had a little pissy

meltdown because they should have told me what they were doing. I

DON'T READ MINDS! I went over to the church to have my meltdown

while practicing the organ, so I didn't bother them with it. They

just did not get a lot of communication from me. Which is maybe

good.....

Although I am into being very positive about being an Aspie, at times

like this, while I don't wish to be NT, I wish it was just not so

HARD to go through the little changes that life throws to me on a

daily basis. Every little change or break in the routine or plans

causes me a LOT of stress.

Rhonda

> >I have never thought my self to have propognasia.

..icn.ucl.ac.uk/facetests/oldnew/oldnew_process.php

>

> I do consider myself faceblind, and I did better on those tests

than

> I expected. There was a discussion of the tests going on in the

> online prosop group. Here's what I said:

>

> ----begin self quote:

>

> Yes, I suspect my autistic pattern-recognition abilities (and I'm

> nowhere near the top among autistics in that area) helped me

> recognize which patterns -- oops, I mean: faces -- I had seen

before.

> ;-) Some of the shapes were distinctive -- the shape in which the

> face had been cut out, that is. And a few of the faces had

memorable

> patterns of lines (literal lines and things like eyebrows). If I

had

> *met* all those people, spent an hour sitting and talking to them,

> and then had to pick them out of a crowd an hour later....I'd do

far,

> far worse (unless they were all wearing clothing that happened to

be

> memorable to me). <snipped by RHonda>

> Jane

[Guest guest]

> I also wonder why they chose to use all women's faces. (That's what

> they said they did, so I'll take their word for it.) Women can

> highlight their features distinctively with make-up. When I saw

> someone with a distinctive pattern of make-up, what I subsequently

> recognized was the make-up, not the person. Change the make-up, that

> person " disappears. "

In my case, it wasn't even make-up that led me to recognize the faces

in some instances; in one case, I remember it was because the person's

eyes were cocked a certain way, while in several others, there was a

certain pattern to the lighting that wasn't in any of the other

pictures. Then there were the ones where I recognized it because of

the shape of the outline they used to 'cut out' the face.

If they had used *different* pictures of the same people, I would've

gotten far less than 70% recognition...

--

Cody B. / " codeman38 "

cody@...

http://www.zone38.net/

[Guest guest]

On the Famous Faces I got 75%. For a lot of the faces, I didn't

actually know the name of the actor... there are very few actors I

know. I put down a character he played and if that was right, counted

it as correct. One of them, I knew what movie he was in, but wasn't

sure which of two characters he played and put down the wrong one.

On the Old-New Faces Test I correctly identified 19 of the 20 faces I

had seen and 21 of the 30 I had not seen. Overall, that's 80% correct.

I've been suspicious for a while about whether I might be sort of

borderline Face Blind. I don't know. I'm sort of borderline ADHD

(inattentive type). I guess I'm just a sort of borderline type of person.