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Dear Tracey,

Thank you for responding, my husband has had the chance to cool off alittle

bit now. I guess our biggest concern was waiting a year till someone would

examine her eyes again. We were just wondering where Manitoba is? Once again

thans for writting.

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Some people have no brains.......

When Sullivan was born we were told the worst case with the colobomas

was that he would be legally blind (whatever that is supposed to

mean!!!!!)

Lots of people in hospital didn't understand why we put toys in front

of him, black and white pictures to develop eye muscle and co

ordination etc etc etc......I know that Sullivan has a vision

impairment, until he can tell me/us a determination of what the total

impairment is cannot be made, I personally assumed the best. Guess

what, Sullivan has a great fix and follow, he plays very well with

his toys, loves books. Yeah, there are problems and challenges, but

by assuming nothing, I have given him every opportunity to learn.

Even now, at 16 months, people who have known him all along, see him

play, and say " do you think he's blind " ......did I say some people

have no brains?

Sullivans pediatric opthamologist is the only one in Manitoba, he is

a real you know what. Because the colobomas cannot be fixed by

surgery, I have made a choice, that is best for my family (and

therfore best for all of us)and am pulling Sullivan from his care and

will take him to a regular opthamologist that sees lots of kids.

Sullivan has had his eyes dilated about 4 times, we have never been

told it will hurt, and Sullivan has never reacted as if in pain.

Usually pissed off, but no pain. Not sure what this doc was talking

about.

You are going to run into lots of people with no personality, but

with some effort you will find those that really listen and care and

understand both the needs of the child and parent. Those are the

professionals you need to seek out and find.

Right now, you are going through a whole bunch of issues, and are

hearing lots of information. Act on what you have to, and think

about the rest. All the decisions don't have to be made now. The

vision issue can't be " fixed " so give Lea every opportunity to

develop, don't make assumptions. And in 6 months to a year find

another opthamologist who listens, informs and cares.

Your're asking lots of questions, and that is the best thing you can

do. Make sure they give you answers back, that you can understand.

Best of luck

Tracey

> Dear group

> Lea had her eye doctor appointment today. We are now more lost and

> confused than yesterday. The eye doc said that Lea has some vision

but

> she can't say how much. Also when Lea had her eyes dialated today

the

> doc said it would sting her, but she had no reaction. Also the doc

> really brushed my wife off and said they can't do anything more and

to

> come back in a year. What do we do? I had to work and could not go

> today, but when I got home and found out I wanted to make a beeline

up

> there and give that doc a few choice words of my own. What should

we

> do? Please help.

> Angrily and worried,

>

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First off, (if possible) get a new doctor that you are more compatible with. You are going to be working with these professionals for years to come (most of them) and you don't want someone brushing you off like that. Our first ophthamologist was like that and we got transferred right out of his caseload like that! We now have a woman we like very much who is very willing to take the time to listen to and address our concerns/questions.

I didn't find the drops really stung Kennedy a lot, she was averse to getting held down to get them in, but fine as soon as we let her go. I'm sure that it is different for everyone.

My daughter was followed by an ophthamologist from 2 months of age on, only about 2-3 times in the first year and it was while under sedation for another surgery that they really looked in well and made the prescription for her glasses which she got at 12 months of age. I think with coloboma, she should be followed up on a somewhat regular basis for sure. Never take an answer you don't like or a brush off, go and get another opinion if at all possible and find someone you're comfortable with.

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Dear groupLea had her eye doctor appointment today. We are now more lost andconfused than yesterday. The eye doc said that Lea has some vision butshe can't say how much. Also when Lea had her eyes dialated today thedoc said it would sting her, but she had no reaction. Also the docreally brushed my wife off and said they can't do anything more and tocome back in a year. What do we do? I had to work and could not gotoday, but when I got home and found out I wanted to make a beeline upthere and give that doc a few choice words of my own. What should wedo? Please help.Angrily and worried,

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Just wanted to let you know that our son , who is 14 months, has

colobomas of the retina and optic nerve in both eyes. And our eye doctor

also told us that it was possible that he would be declared legally blind at

some point. But he has seen about 4-6 times in the past year and done

several tests to see how much we could find out about his vision. I

definitely think they give you the worst case scenario! Since is

healthier and getting stronger, his vision has seemed to improve too. He is

now tracking well and seems to see pretty well! He recognizes faces and his

therapists can't see any signs of visual impairment at this time. Hope this

gives you a little encouragement!

Kristie

Mom to -12, Lucas-7, Alyssa-5, a-3, and -1

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>Dear group

>Lea had her eye doctor appointment today. We are now more lost and

>confused than yesterday. The eye doc said that Lea has some vision but

>she can't say how much. Also when Lea had her eyes dialated today the

>doc said it would sting her, but she had no reaction. Also the doc

>really brushed my wife off and said they can't do anything more and to

>come back in a year. What do we do? I had to work and could not go

>today, but when I got home and found out I wanted to make a beeline up

>there and give that doc a few choice words of my own. What should we

>do? Please help.

>Angrily and worried,

>

>

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Boy, I'm not sure what to say. The replies from others on the list have

been very helpful. Aubrie has seen the eye doctor the most often of

them all, it seems. She has small colobomas in her right eye which do

not seem to effect her vision. She has a large coloboma which goes from

the iris to the optic nerve and reduces her vision in that eye

considerably. We think she probably has peripheral vision only in that

eye but it's hard to tell for sure since she's still only 2.5 years

old. She had a hemorrhage behind her right eye at birth so that was

followed closely. She also has a small cataract in that eye that seems

to be in her blind spot so we haven't done anything about it yet. She

developed glaucoma in that eye and had surgery. She has had trouble

with blocked tear ducts and has several procedures done to open them

up. So... I can't imagine going a year without seeing an eye doctor

again. From my experience, there are too many things that can go wrong

and need monitoring. Now, maybe the doc could see that there is no

threat of any of these kinds of complications for Lea. But it seems

like an exam under anesthesia could not hurt if it was coordinated with

her next surgery or procedure with another specialist. I think I'd

follow the advice of the others on the list and get a second opinion.

You don't want to search for problems, but you sure don't want to miss

anything. And I'd also get hooked up with your state's vision

specialists for some practical advice on how to proceed with your daily

life and her development.

Good luck!

Michele W

mom to Aubrie (29 mos) CHaRgE and (8 yrs), wife to DJ, in IL

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I should have added that Aubrie wears glasses with slight correction

that really serve to protect her good eye from injury. She functions

like a normally sighted person for the most part. She peers into small

spaces with her good eye (it's totally adorable!). She has difficulty

seeing things far away like birds and planes in the sky, boats on the

distant water, barns and things out the car window... But she can find

the smallest piece of lint on our oriental rug. Her eye-hand

coordination seems difficult. She has problems with fine motor skills

like stringing beads, peg boards, etc. I think her vision will become

more of a problem as she gets older and goes to school. It's just now

becoming apparent that her vision interferes with her fine motor skills

and her mobility (she has a hard time with stairs and other changes in

surface). It's very difficult to tell what a young child's vision is

really like. Lea will, hopefully, amaze you and the doc's by using her

vision better than they anticipate. It's very frustrating tho when you

don't know what she is seeing and how well. Hang in there and get the

advice of some vision specialists to help you.

Michele W

mom to Aubrie (29 mos) CHaRgE and (8 yrs), wife to DJ, in IL

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and Kathy,

It is true, they can't really make a determination on vision when they are

this young. I just keep stimulating. The more you can make them track the

more they learn to use their eyes. I learned with Tryny (who not only has

colabomas but Browns syndrome of the eyes as well) and he see's very well.

We still don't know " what " he sees, if it is anything like we do or not, but

he can see you sign, even if you're not signing to him and are beside him.

So I do the same with Zak, keep stimulating him with toys and anything he

seems interested in. And red, black and white seems to do the best job.

Hang in there, all the information coming at you this early in Lea's life can

be confusing, but that is what we are here for, to help you sort it out.

Debra

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Hi!

We heard a similar story when our son was born. We chose to provide

lots of visual stimulation for him from the start. We wanted to stimulate what

residual vision he had from the start. Black and white mobile as a newborn,

then brightly colored mobile, and always lots for him to be interested in

looking at. Today his vision is pretty functional in his non-blind regions, up

close anyway. For example, he has been requesting that we sign the letters when

he gives us pieces of Alpha Bits cereal and then he repeats them. Our

philosophy is that the early years are crucial and we will take the time and

effort to try to help in any area that might improve for him with

therapy or whatever else he needs in order to give him the best possible

outcome. We don't dwell on his blind regions, hearing loss, vesicureteral

reflux, etc. However, we do concentrate on the things that we can change like

make sure that he gets his prophylactic antibiotics for reflux, 1:1 intervenor,

deaf-blind consultant and training, speech, physical, occupational, vision,

orientation and mobility, and hippo therapies. One of the biggest challenges

has been making sure that he is always with caring people who are able to

communicate with him using sign language and we have been blessed with wonderful

people thus far (two of the current people are studying or just finishing as

speech therapists). In addition, we continue to learn more sign language, how

to address sensory integration dysfunction issues, and are taking him to see

Judith Bluestone in 2 weeks to learn what additional therapies he needs for 30

minutes each day. So far this has worked well and he is showing great progress.

The good news is that it really does get easier to focus on these additional

needs once you get past most of the critical medical issues by around 2 years of

age. : )

Cheryl, , (6), (4, CHaRGE)

MI

>>> dbeaver@... 05/11/00 01:29PM >>>

Dear group

Lea had her eye doctor appointment today. We are now more lost and

confused than yesterday. The eye doc said that Lea has some vision but

she can't say how much. Also when Lea had her eyes dialated today the

doc said it would sting her, but she had no reaction. Also the doc

really brushed my wife off and said they can't do anything more and to

come back in a year. What do we do? I had to work and could not go

today, but when I got home and found out I wanted to make a beeline up

there and give that doc a few choice words of my own. What should we

do? Please help.

Angrily and worried,

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Remember four years of good friends, bad clothes, explosive chemistry

experiments.

http://click./1/4051/2/_/22564/_/958084512/

------------------------------------------------------------------------

For information about the CHARGE Syndrome

Foundation or to become a member please

contact marion@... or visit

the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation web page

at http://www.chargesyndrome.org

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