Re: lurker gets his ASI results...

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response, MO. Yes, I think I'm going to go see the doc

one more time to get his response to my results (especially since

nobody else seems interested so far, yourself excluded). I have a

zillion questions. Too bad he charges $100 per visit and of course I

have no insurance. But in this case, I'm so happy to finally be close

to solving my health riddle, that it seems like " money well-spent. "

Thanks again,

-m

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> In a message dated 23/09/2006 02:28:45 GMT Daylight Time,

yoonit@...

> writes:

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> the question is: should I do this myself

>

>

> Hii ex-lurker, lol

> I have been self-treating for 18 months and I would say to you that

if there

> is a good doc available to you then seixe the opportunity with

both hands.

> It can be a lonely road, self-treating, though there is great

support and

> advice to be had here and on other lists. But why go it alone if

you don not

> need to?

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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[Guest guest]

>>to get his response to my results (especially since

nobody else seems interested so far, yourself excluded). <<

Sorry , I was too busy at work yesterday and then forgot to take your

post home last night. Can you repost your labs, and i will try to help.

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[Guest guest]

> It can be a lonely road, self-treating, though there is great

> support and advice to be had here and on other lists. But why go

> it alone if you do not need to?

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

Ex-lurker,

I completely agree with Mo. Your labs are quite conclusive...stage

4...and there isn't a whole lot more to say about that. And since

you've been feeling this way for many years, it is pretty evident

that the situation is not going to self-correct. It is sad to me

that this condition ( " functional " hypo adrenia) is not recognized by

conventional medicine...so even if you *did* have insurance, you

would probably find it caused more stress than it alleviated trying

to convince them to pay for even a penny of your treatment. I have

outstanding insurance, and every penny has had to come from my own

pocket...with exception of the co-pays to conventional docs that

didn't help me anyway. And, since hydrocortisone is so inexpensive,

it is actually less than my Rx co-pay, so I end up paying the full

amount from my pocket.

The good news is that the meds/supplements are relatively

inexpensive. If your doc proves to be unhelpful, and you tire of

spending $100 per visit, there are some good alternatives with those

who do telephone consults. Mine charges $2/min which sounds like a

lot, but not when you consider that you get 50 minutes of his

undivided attention for that $100...I've yet to find anybody who

will give me that kind of time in an office visit for the same money.

Best wishes. You're among friends here, and we'll help wherever we

can.

--Steve

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> In a message dated 23/09/2006 02:28:45 GMT Daylight Time,

yoonit@...

> writes:

>

> the question is: should I do this myself

>

>

> Hii ex-lurker, lol

> I have been self-treating for 18 months and I would say to you

that if there

> is a good doc available to you then seixe the opportunity with

both hands.

> It can be a lonely road, self-treating, though there is great

support and

> advice to be had here and on other lists. But why go it alone if

you don not

> need to?

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steve:

I agree with your comments on insurance. The saying " you get what you

pay for " seems to apply nicely here. I'm a real do-it-yourselfer, but

in this case, I think the doc's expertise in interpreting the results

will be invaluable. I've also considered a conference call with the

Clymer people, and may still do it. I think I'll buy his books too.

I have a lot of questions. The first is about my (very) low SIgA

level, as it sounds like this could be tied into my allergies (my

main complaint). It would be fun to compare symptoms with others with

low SIgA...

Thanks again,

-m

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> >

> >

> > In a message dated 23/09/2006 02:28:45 GMT Daylight Time,

> yoonit@

> > writes:

> >

> > the question is: should I do this myself

> >

> >

> > Hii ex-lurker, lol

> > I have been self-treating for 18 months and I would say to you

> that if there

> > is a good doc available to you then seixe the opportunity with

> both hands.

> > It can be a lonely road, self-treating, though there is great

> support and

> > advice to be had here and on other lists. But why go it alone if

> you don not

> > need to?

> >

> > Mo

> >

> > NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> I have a lot of questions. The first is about my (very) low SIgA

> level, as it sounds like this could be tied into my allergies (my

> main complaint).

,

For some interesting reading on the connections between allergies and

AF (and probably low SIgA), check out the following link:

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/Chap%202%202000.html

Scroll down to the section called " continuing research " and read Dr.

Tintera's comments.

--Steve

[Guest guest]

Cortisol

am 13 (13-24)

aft' 3 (5-10)

pm 4 (3-8)

night 1 (1-4)

total burden: 21 (23-42)

DHEA

3 (3-10) (Maladapted, Phase II)

Well as these re the only ones of your labs I am familiar with I will just

comment on them. You are are the same maladaptation stage i am, and I don't feel

really bad, just not a much energy as i would like to have. You also do not have

the high cortiosl in the AM that I have.. I am bettign you would do well on HC

and thta you most likely need it. Once the DHEA starts dropping your adrenals

are struggling very hard. I do not think herbals will be of much help at this

stage but I only tried them once and had such a bad reaction I will NOT do it

again, so you can take what oyu want from that, i know others feel they are

worth trying. I follor Dr Peatfield's protocol for treating adrenal fatigue

whihc is workin your way up to 20MG of HC a day and then hold thta while you try

to raise Armoru to a good dose for you. Are you on Armour? Do you have thyroid

labs? I do know getting thyroid optimal helps level out alot of hormones, like

SIgA and the sex hormones.

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[Guest guest]

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> Cortisol

> am 13 (13-24)

> aft' 3 (5-10)

> pm 4 (3-8)

> night 1 (1-4)

>

> total burden: 21 (23-42)

>

> DHEA

> 3 (3-10) (Maladapted, Phase II)

>

> Well as these re the only ones of your labs I am familiar with I

will just comment on them. You are are the same maladaptation stage i

am, and I don't feel really bad, just not a much energy as i would

like to have. You also do not have the high cortiosl in the AM that I

have.. I am bettign you would do well on HC and thta you most likely

need it. Once the DHEA starts dropping your adrenals are struggling

very hard. I do not think herbals will be of much help at this stage

but I only tried them once and had such a bad reaction I will NOT do

it again, so you can take what oyu want from that, i know others feel

they are worth trying. I follor Dr Peatfield's protocol for treating

adrenal fatigue whihc is workin your way up to 20MG of HC a day and

then hold thta while you try to raise Armoru to a good dose for you.

Are you on Armour? Do you have thyroid labs? I do know getting

thyroid optimal helps level out alot of hormones, like SIgA and the

sex hormones.

>

Hi Val:

Thanks for taking a look at my numbers. I tried licorice a few months

ago (before I had the saliva test) and it puffed me up really fast

(water retention) and I gained about 6 lbs. in a week. My blood

pressure also went way up. It's usually around 112/68 but it went to

135/75(?). So I dont think it's the answer for me. I also tried some

good ashwagandha, but didn't feel any better on it. I might still try

some ginseng, but am willing to try some Cortef. I have been playing

around with Isocort, but don't think it's doing all that much. I have

some Cortef (finally made it thru customs) and I also have some

Thyroid-S, which I havn't tried yet either. Shouldn't I wait on that

until I give the adrenals a good shot (Cortef)? I've also tried

supplementing DHEA in the past with no feeling of benefit..

free t4 .91 (.80 - 2.2)

free t3 3.6 (2.8 - 5.3)

TSH 1.14

Thanks again!

-m

[Guest guest]

>>free t4 .91 (.80 - 2.2)

free t3 3.6 (2.8 - 5.3)<<

These look pretty low, but I would try the Cortef to at least 15MG before trying

to add in the Thyroid-S. Get your adrenals built up a bit then add in the

thyroid so it doesn't shock your adrenals into non existence!

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