Newbie deciding what to do

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Hi

i WAS DIAGNOSED WITH GALLSTONES LAST WEEK. At the time I was

diagnosed I had managed to lodge a stone in one of the ducts, but it

turned out it wasn't blocking my liver/pancreas. Having been dianosed

I did some internet research and came accross the flush as an

alternative treatment. That was last Saturday. At the time I was in

alot of pain and was expecting to have to go in for an operation. I

thought I would give the flush a go before committing to the

operation. I did the Epson Slats / Olive Oil / Grapefruit variety.

Ican't say it went too well. The Epson salts went down ok (it does

taste bad!!!). I then tok the olive oil / grapefruit juice mix as

directed. I was only able to hold this down for about an hour. At

which point I threw up violently. However, the plus side of this is

that it did seem to dislodge whatever stone I had stuck as the

following this the intense pain has now subsided. Prior to this the

consultant had done a scan and said the gallbladder was inflamed and

pescribed me antibiotics in case it was infected. I am continuing

with the antibiotics now along with a very low fat diet and the pain

is subsiding each day. I saw the consultant again yesterday and

relayed my experiences. He wasn't completely dismissive of the flush

and suggested that since there was no immediate need to remove the

gall bladder that I persue alternative treatments first. My question

is now how best to proceed. I figured I would complete my antibiotic

course first, rebuild my stregth somewhat. Then do a bowel and

parasite cleanse before doing the GB cleanse again. Any thoughts???

Any recommendations as to the best cleanse? I've read that the reason

I threw up was due to not doing the other cleanses first, but I am a

little concerned about going that route again. I'm also worried that

I might get a stone lodged if I do the cleanse and end up being

rushed in for an op I don't want. One of the cleanses I read about

did not use Epsom salts, just an apple juice fast. I don't understand

this because I thought the Epson salts acted as a laxative to relax

the bile ducts to allow the stones to pass easilly.

Any thoughts / suggestions much appreciated

Dave

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave

I'm glad to hear that your pain is subsiding - that is

good news. As for the reaction to the

oliveoil/grapefruit juice mix I have one thought to

offer. Did you lay down immediately after drinking

it? The reason I ask is that when I did my first

cleanse a couple of years ago I didn't lay down right

away and thought I would do a couple of things around

the home first. I also got violently ill that time.

The next time I did it I brought the mixture into my

bedroom and drank it there and laid right down and I

didn't get ill with that cleanse or the two that I did

recently. SO - just a thought. If you didn't lay

down right after drinking the mix that might possibly

be why you got so sick. ??

I'm so glad you have someone there who is willing to

at least give alternative measures a possibility and I

wish you the best of luck with that.

--- Simpson <dave@...> wrote:

> I then tok the olive oil / grapefruit

> juice mix as

> directed. I was only able to hold this down for

> about an hour. At

> which point I threw up violently. However, the plus

> side of this is

> that it did seem to dislodge whatever stone I had

> stuck as the

> following this the intense pain has now subsided.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

Well, a few thoughts come to mind. One is: did you use organic olive

oil? That seems to go down a lot better than non-organic (which I used

the first time I did a liver cleanse). Dr. 's liver cleanse has

been a little easier to " swallow " each successive time I've done it.

Another is: if your pain has subsided, I would try to do the parasite

cleanse and kidney cleanse before attempting another liver cleanse. The

program I use is a two month program for first time users, but others

may be shorter. I don't think you have to worry about getting a stone

stuck in the duct during a liver cleanse, if you follow the directions

closely, and eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch the day of the cleanse.

If that was going to happen, it would have happened to me, I think,

because I've passed so many stones(one surely would have gotten stuck

if it was going to) and I had exactly that problem before I ever did

the first cleanse, and the first cleanse brought immediate relief. The

only cleanse I'm familiar with is the epsom one, but hopefully others

who have used a different cleanse can shed some light for you. Also, I

know the archives have info posted about other cleanses.

Lastly, I wouldn't be taking any kind of medication, if at all possible

when doing a liver cleanse...this is just my opinion, but then, I'm

opposed to medications in general.

Adrienne

p.s. Both and Susie gave great advice!

--- Simpson <dave@...> wrote:

> Hi

> i WAS DIAGNOSED WITH GALLSTONES LAST WEEK. At the time I was

> diagnosed I had managed to lodge a stone in one of the ducts, but it

> turned out it wasn't blocking my liver/pancreas. Having been dianosed

>

> I did some internet research and came accross the flush as an

> alternative treatment. That was last Saturday. At the time I was in

> alot of pain and was expecting to have to go in for an operation. I

> thought I would give the flush a go before committing to the

> operation. I did the Epson Slats / Olive Oil / Grapefruit variety.

> Ican't say it went too well. The Epson salts went down ok (it does

> taste bad!!!). I then tok the olive oil / grapefruit juice mix as

> directed. I was only able to hold this down for about an hour. At

> which point I threw up violently. However, the plus side of this is

> that it did seem to dislodge whatever stone I had stuck as the

> following this the intense pain has now subsided. Prior to this the

> consultant had done a scan and said the gallbladder was inflamed and

> pescribed me antibiotics in case it was infected. I am continuing

> with the antibiotics now along with a very low fat diet and the pain

> is subsiding each day. I saw the consultant again yesterday and

> relayed my experiences. He wasn't completely dismissive of the flush

> and suggested that since there was no immediate need to remove the

> gall bladder that I persue alternative treatments first. My question

> is now how best to proceed. I figured I would complete my antibiotic

> course first, rebuild my stregth somewhat. Then do a bowel and

> parasite cleanse before doing the GB cleanse again. Any thoughts???

> Any recommendations as to the best cleanse? I've read that the reason

>

> I threw up was due to not doing the other cleanses first, but I am a

> little concerned about going that route again. I'm also worried that

> I might get a stone lodged if I do the cleanse and end up being

> rushed in for an op I don't want. One of the cleanses I read about

> did not use Epsom salts, just an apple juice fast. I don't understand

>

> this because I thought the Epson salts acted as a laxative to relax

> the bile ducts to allow the stones to pass easilly.

> Any thoughts / suggestions much appreciated

>

> Dave

>

>

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