Re: pulse/Val estradiol

September 21, 2006

If you are not low, I wonder why you would have the problems you are

mentioning? The receptors in the urinary tract and vaginal tract are very

sensitive to lack of hormones. In fact, if I get the problem you are

describing, which often comes with a urinary tract infection but not always,

I used a bit of estradiol gel and it works immediately.

I do not use it often since I am like you, I don't want to mess with

anything I may not really need. Low testosterone also causes this and when

I used test. creme, the problem cleared up. BUT, I get headaches with test.

replacement so I just use the estradiol gel when I get the symptoms of

dryness. I may use estradiol once a week. I use as little as possible of

all the hormones.

How is your progesterone and testosterone levels?

-- Re: pulse

>>Natural estradiol gel works wonders for that as does progesterone. But the

estradiol will clear that up almost immediately!<<

BUT I am not low in estrogen. NORMAL levels for post meno, why screw that

up?

--

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September 21, 2006

<<If you are not low, I wonder why you would have the problems you are

mentioning? The receptors in the urinary tract and vaginal tract are very

sensitive to lack of hormones. In fact, if I get the problem you are

describing, which often comes with a urinary tract infection but not always,

I used a bit of estradiol gel and it works immediately.

How is your progesterone and testosterone levels?>>

-------Original Message-------

Val wrote: <<BUT I am not low in estrogen. NORMAL levels for post

meno, why screw that up?>>

Val --

I completely agree with . Even if your systemic levels of estradiol

really are adequate, it is VERY common for there to still be a local

deficiency in the vulvar and bladder tissues. There are tons of estradiol

receptors in those tissues; and if local levels are deficient and/or estrogen

receptors are shut down, it can easily lead to vestibular, vaginal and

bladder tissue thinning, tearing, dryness, pain, and atrophy.

Topical bio-identical estradiol (usually in conjunction with topical

testosterone), works extremely well to keeps these tissues plump,

healthy, and moist. It also helps maintain the proper acidic vaginal

pH of about 4.5, which cuts down on the increase in bladder infections

that women often experience post-menopause. Some surgeons

actually use estradiol in preparation for vaginal/vestibular operations

since it provides such excellent tissue support, as well as being superb,

after the fact, for wound healing.

Of course, being unpatentable, bio-identicals are not exactly top

priority for the pharmaceutical companies, although they have actually

managed to produce a few bio-identical alternatives for vaginal dryness/

atrophy, such as Estrace. It will be interesting to see how the drug

that you're having a part in testing pans out. Maybe i'll be proved wrong,

but my feeling is that it's yet another case of creating a drug for big

profit

when bio-identical would do a much better job for this specific problem.

(I realize, though, after looking at some of the info on the clinical trial,

that there are other functions that they're investigating, not just vaginal

atrophy.)

There have been studies that show that there is very little systemic

absorption of estradiol when it's used on/in the vulva/vestibule. Of course,

used vaginally it WOULD raise systemic estradiol levels to some degree.

But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Some people argue that women

continue to produce estrogen after menopause and, therefore, don't need

any supplementation. But the estrogen they're producing is primarily estrone,

which, without been balanced by the other two main estrogens --estradiol,

the " mother " estrogen and estriol -- HAS been linked with breast cancer.

And i have to add that " normal " lab values for post-menopausal estradiol

are pretty much along the same lines as what is usually considered " normal "

thyroid levels: far from adequate. My latest lab report lists the low end

of the

" normal " post-menopausal estradiol range as 5 pg/ml. This is simply

ludicrous.

For most women of ANY age, pre- OR post-menopausal, any estradiol level

under about 90 -100 will be inadequate for providing fully all of its

important

benefits to heart, brain, bones, skin, muscles, libido, etc. etc. So, a

person

can easily be told they're " normal, " and still be quite deficient.

Hollis

September 21, 2006

For some reason, this message never appeared. . .so i'm reposting it.

If everyone else who gets individual messages DID receive it, my apologies!