Re: Metformin use and Cancer

[Guest guest]

Mo,

You should be able to go to the source of the study and read it. You

may have to pay a fee to sign up. The trick especially when you're

looking over info regarding cancer studies is to be able to decipher

how the study was set up, where the funding came from, etc. A lot of

these studies are set up basically to find what they are looking for

if you get my meaning. They also have a tendency to be backed by the

manufacturer of the drug itself. So you need to know that

information in order to qualify the info. One of the best ways I

find to get all the info I'm looking for is to go to opposite camps

for info. Especially regarding medical research you can't just look

at allopathic studies, the majority of them are controlled by

pharmaceutical companies. There are lots of studies done on any

number of things but they just don't get published in major medical

journals. The info that gets published in these is pretty much

controlled. I wouldn't take this one study for gospel either.

Especially because of the way they worded it. Anytime they use words

such as " may " or " appears " that raises a flag to me. If it does

indeed lower the risk, there should be statistics to prove it. If

you want to read a lot of excellent info I'd suggest joining a few of

the alternative medicine sites. You'll get the other side of the

issues and be able to make an informed decision. I don't think it's

possible to make an informed decision unless you know all sides of an

issue. I'd recommend Alternative_Medicine_Forum they

have a huge files section with a lot of cancer information. They do

have a lot of political info on their too as politics is heavily

involved in medicine. If you want to get really informed about this

issue, don't expect to be able to do it in a couple of hours. I'd be

prepared to devote a week or better to research. The information on

the cancer tutorials alone will take a couple of days just to scan

through much less the diabetes info. There's some fascinating info

though and you can spend a lot of time going through it all.

On the absorption issue, you're assuming that they've even done that

kind of research. I' d be willing to bet there's not much info on

that. But I would say that the altmed group would probably be the

place I'd start to look and then if you can't find anything, ask a

few questions. It is a very large group and they don't necessarily

answer basic questions. They offer a ton of info but expect people

to take the time to research for their selves. I'd be willing to bet

if you did a search of their messages you'd find that somebody has

already posted info regarding Metformin and I'm sure there's info in

the files related to diabetes drugs.

Linn

> Hey Linn,

> This is what I just found about Metformin and Cancer. Just sent it

> to the

> wrong list, second time I have done that today, duh!

>

> Now how will I got about finding out about this absorption issue?

> Any ideas?

> I need to do a course on internet medical research.

>

> Mo

>

>

> _http://www.cancerpage.com/news/article.asp?id=8290_

> (http://www.cancerpage.com/news/article.asp?id=8290)

>

> NEW YORK APR 21, 2005 (Reuters Health) - Patients with type 2

> diabetes who

> are prescribed metformin appear to be at lower risk of _cancer_

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> metformin,

> according to a pilot observational study reported in the British

> Medical

> Journal Online First on April 21.

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/10/2006 04:30:59 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

if you did a search of their messages you'd find that somebody has

already posted info regarding Metformin and I'm sure there's info in

the files related to diabetes drugs.

Thank you Linn

That is very helpful indeed and I DO take your point on all the angles you

bring up.

Maybe someone on this list you suggest will have information on Bitter Melon

etc.

Thanks again. I am not experienced on doing research, in fact quite new to

computers so it really helps me to get a few tips.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/10/2006 15:02:10 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

There is a ton of info on the likes of things such as bitter melon

and how to use and effects on the body. More impressive info than I

have ever read on medical studies. It's all pretty lengthy, but

fascinating.

OK, that's excellent.

I somehow doubt the GP will give me the Metformin anyway and then I may well

not want it by the time I have finished researching things.

The ONLY reason I would want to take Metformin over something Bitter Melon

is because I can barely afford my meds as it is.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/10/2006 18:29:48 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

I know what you mean, although I think supplements can be far

superior to drugs, they definitely do cost money. It gets very

expensive to keep yourself healthy.

Yeah it is a tight call Linn but I am definitely veering towards the use of

the Bitter Melon here.......... thanks to you mostly!

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

Mo,

There is a ton of info on the likes of things such as bitter melon

and how to use and effects on the body. More impressive info than I

have ever read on medical studies. It's all pretty lengthy, but

fascinating.

Linn

>

>

> In a message dated 09/10/2006 04:30:59 GMT Daylight Time,

> linnmiller@... writes:

>

> if you did a search of their messages you'd find that somebody has

> already posted info regarding Metformin and I'm sure there's info in

> the files related to diabetes drugs.

>

> Thank you Linn

> That is very helpful indeed and I DO take your point on all the

> angles you

> bring up.

> Maybe someone on this list you suggest will have information on

> Bitter Melon

> etc.

>

> Thanks again. I am not experienced on doing research, in fact quite

> new to

> computers so it really helps me to get a few tips.

>

> Mo

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/10/2006 19:19:11 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

Hi again Linn

I'm sure you'll find a lot of interesting info on several things that

can be very beneficial, including cinnamon.

I did take cinnamon for a little while in order to try to lower my BP. It

did not work for this and I just stopped using it. I bought in a few packets so

I should continue with for other purposes really now that I am aware of this.

Chromium is also very

important to add.

I do have this in my multi-vitamin.

For some people their blood sugar is out of whack

due to a chromium deficiency alone. Chromium helps to balance the

blood sugar and works for those who have hypoglycemia also. An item

to avoid for your thyroid is any kind of antibacterial soap or other

product.

OK

The chemicals in these interfere with the iodine uptake in

your body. Thyroid problems affect blood sugar and we notice this in

my daughter when she uses products other than what we allow at home.

Yesterday we went to a friend's house for the day and she was

swimming and took a shower afterwards and washed her hair with her

friend's soap and shampoo. From the chlorine and chemicals in the

personal care products, her blood sugar shot up during the night

Yikes! Double yikes!! I never would have thought of this, time to see

label-reading on the personal care stuff.

This is an area that I have neglected to give attention to, has been on the

to-do list for some time........

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

Mo,

I know what you mean, although I think supplements can be far

superior to drugs, they definitely do cost money. It gets very

expensive to keep yourself healthy.

Linn

>

>

> In a message dated 09/10/2006 15:02:10 GMT Daylight Time,

> linnmiller@... writes:

>

> There is a ton of info on the likes of things such as bitter melon

> and how to use and effects on the body. More impressive info than I

> have ever read on medical studies. It's all pretty lengthy, but

> fascinating.

>

> OK, that's excellent.

> I somehow doubt the GP will give me the Metformin anyway and then I

> may well

> not want it by the time I have finished researching things.

> The ONLY reason I would want to take Metformin over something

> Bitter Melon

> is because I can barely afford my meds as it is.

>

> Mo

>

[Guest guest]

Mo,

I'm sure you'll find a lot of interesting info on several things that

can be very beneficial, including cinnamon. Chromium is also very

important to add. For some people their blood sugar is out of whack

due to a chromium deficiency alone. Chromium helps to balance the

blood sugar and works for those who have hypoglycemia also. An item

to avoid for your thyroid is any kind of antibacterial soap or other

product. The chemicals in these interfere with the iodine uptake in

your body. Thyroid problems affect blood sugar and we notice this in

my daughter when she uses products other than what we allow at home.

Yesterday we went to a friend's house for the day and she was

swimming and took a shower afterwards and washed her hair with her

friend's soap and shampoo. From the chlorine and chemicals in the

personal care products, her blood sugar shot up during the night.

Linn

>

>

> In a message dated 09/10/2006 18:29:48 GMT Daylight Time,

> linnmiller@... writes:

>

> I know what you mean, although I think supplements can be far

> superior to drugs, they definitely do cost money. It gets very

> expensive to keep yourself healthy.

>

> Yeah it is a tight call Linn but I am definitely veering towards

> the use of

> the Bitter Melon here.......... thanks to you mostly!

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

>

> .

>

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