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Be careful Salli. It sounds like he finally figured out how expensive it

would be to pay support and live alone. He's not accepting blame for

wanting the divorce, he blamed YOU for making him throw the bottle at you,

and he's already told you his concern is the kids, not missing you. I'm not

sure counceling can fix this...plus you've got the kids well being to think

of.

Just be very careful.

Sue

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Will this guy ever be out of surprises??

Kerri

Weird stuff

Lou called me last night and he wanted to come over and talk. He did not

sound particularly friendly. He said he wanted to call off the divorce.

Af first I said he could come and then I got nervous about it. So I called

him and we talked. He has some serious financial problems. He also says he

misses the kids and wondered when he could move back in.

Uh? Move back in?

I do not like divorce but I rather think after a separation for such a serious

matter that he will not just waltz back into the house but we will need to

undergo months of counselling and even then, frankly, I may not be willing to

have him move back in. He admitted that he did not miss me and it was the

children he was primarily concerned with. At least he is honest, I guess.

He told me that his feelings were seriously hurt from his arrest and

loneliness over the past few years and that he felt I had taken an adversarial

approach to the whole separation. He also asked if I would be comfortable doing

counselling because as he said, " This divorce was your idea. " Huh? I filed for

a legal separation when he started to write threatening letters to my parents

regarding his need for equity from the house.

So from that conversation, I did not feel especially thrilled by the news that

he no longer wanted a divorce. Enrique had a panic attack. He does not want

his father back in the house. Sophie and were cautious too; they felt

that if he could be nice, it might be nice to have him back, but they seemed

doubtful.

He asked if he could come over and do our Advent wreath with us. I have said

it might be okay, but Enrique totally panicked over it.

Hmm, hmm, hmm.

Salli

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I can fully understand the counceling. However my view of it is more or less so

you two can come to terms and learn to deal with each other *now* and *in the

future* but not as a couple.

But until Lou takes responsibility for the crap he's done to you and the kids,

it will not work.

Kerri

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Grace:

It is an interesting position to be in. I am indeed fine without him and I

do not miss him though I could use some help around here. Unfortunately I

do not recall him being particularly helpful.

I do feel a moral obligation to do counselling with him if he wants.

Whether or not we ever live together again, it seems that it would be a good

idea since we have all these children.

I have talked to my lawyer and she agrees that we will file for

reconciliation which means nothing except, as Enrique said, that you pause

the divorce action for a few months while exploring your options. That

would mean that I would still have insurance which is definitely a good

thing.

It is quite clear to me that Lou does not love me and did not love me for

most of our marriage. I cannot think of anything that I would gain from his

return; my finances would actually be worse because my parents would reduce

or end their support of me.

Salli

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In a message dated 12/14/01 8:10:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

bunnytiner@... writes:

> I could have coped if he had got proper meds and

> behaved decently. But as it was, the separation was a huge blessed relief.

>

>

Maybe he needs to seriously consider getting help for himself and get in

check before you would even consider a reconciliation.

Pam

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In a message dated 12/18/01 10:54:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

bunnytiner@... writes:

>

> He was on anti-depressant for about two years after the separation. His

> psychologist took him off them this summer, saying that he was fine. But

> the way he behaved this summer, well, I thought the psych needed strong

> medications too, reality meds, if such a thing exists.

>

>

That's the tough part Salli...he could get on them and not stay on them or

not take them. It is a very difficult position you are in...but you come

across as so knowlegeable and intuative (sp?), especially when it comes to

your kids. I know you'll know what to do. :)

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>

> Maybe he needs to seriously consider getting help for himself and get in

> check before you would even consider a reconciliation.

>

He was on anti-depressant for about two years after the separation. His

psychologist took him off them this summer, saying that he was fine. But

the way he behaved this summer, well, I thought the psych needed strong

medications too, reality meds, if such a thing exists.

Salli

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People like Lou are probably experts at getting arounda psych - tells

them what they want to hear, and 'being' ok. After all, he's only got

to pretend he's normal for 1 hour a week.

Kerri

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> >

> > Maybe he needs to seriously consider getting help for himself and

get in

> > check before you would even consider a reconciliation.

> >

>

> He was on anti-depressant for about two years after the

separation. His

> psychologist took him off them this summer, saying that he was

fine. But

> the way he behaved this summer, well, I thought the psych needed

strong

> medications too, reality meds, if such a thing exists.

>

> Salli

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