Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 also just found this http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050307/monkey.html they talk about how monkeys have a theory of mind just like people (NTs) do. I think the evidence is growing. > > I saw this. > > http://dsc.discovery.com/news/afp/20060515/chimpmating_ani.html > > I thought it was interesting because it centers around the x chromosome. > The X chromosome are the home for the autism genes. Now the 64 million > dollar question are autism's genes from the chimps are from the original > line of man??? Studies have shown that NTs are like monkeys in that they > will give up rewards to just to look at higher social status monkeys. NTs > have their infatuation with celebrities (for eample people magazine). Also > chimps are know for grouping together and killing other chimps not in their > group. NTs form cliques that ruthless to outsiders. I think we are on to > something here > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Individuality is not exclusive to autistics nor are cliques and exclusionary social structures specific to neurotypicals, Joe. There is no scientific evidence to suggest that to be the case either. If anything I'd say that we are both as inclined towards various social structures as groups in different situations, yet autistics are generally more individual because they lack fellow members of their neurology as peer groups. We all do stupid things sometimes, we all do mean and cruel things sometimes and we all have the ability to rise above all that. The biggest differences, socially, have to do with minority vs. majority status, in my opinion. Be careful about these things, Joe. There is a fine line between conjecture and bigotry when talking about matters such as these. I think you'll find that generalizing stereotypes of a particular neurological, racial or ethnic group are a bad idea and usually cross that line. That's something that I think would be a good idea to keep in mind for the future. Hoping *very much *that there won't be a huge exchange of snide comments over this, Ari > > also just found this > http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050307/monkey.html > > they talk about how monkeys have a theory of mind just like people (NTs) > do. I think the evidence is growing. > > > > > > > I saw this. > > > > http://dsc.discovery.com/news/afp/20060515/chimpmating_ani.html > > > > I thought it was interesting because it centers around the x chromosome. > > The X chromosome are the home for the autism genes. Now the 64 million > > dollar question are autism's genes from the chimps are from the original > > line of man??? Studies have shown that NTs are like monkeys in that they > > will give up rewards to just to look at higher social status monkeys. > NTs > > have their infatuation with celebrities (for eample people magazine). > Also > > chimps are know for grouping together and killing other chimps not in > their > > group. NTs form cliques that ruthless to outsiders. I think we are on to > > something here > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 ARI I guess you didnt read the spate of news articles that went on about about monkeys giving up juice rewards and how that gives insight into autism Until you do I think You should be a little judgemental > > Individuality is not exclusive to autistics nor are cliques and > exclusionary > social structures specific to neurotypicals, Joe. There is no scientific > evidence to suggest that to be the case either. If anything I'd say that > we > are both as inclined towards various social structures as groups in > different situations, yet autistics are generally more individual because > they lack fellow members of their neurology as peer groups. We all do > stupid > things sometimes, we all do mean and cruel things sometimes and we all > have > the ability to rise above all that. The biggest differences, socially, > have > to do with minority vs. majority status, in my opinion. > > Be careful about these things, Joe. There is a fine line between > conjecture > and bigotry when talking about matters such as these. I think you'll find > that generalizing stereotypes of a particular neurological, racial or > ethnic > group are a bad idea and usually cross that line. That's something that I > think would be a good idea to keep in mind for the future. > > Hoping *very much *that there won't be a huge exchange of snide comments > over this, > Ari > > > > > > > > also just found this > > http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050307/monkey.html > > > > they talk about how monkeys have a theory of mind just like people (NTs) > > do. I think the evidence is growing. > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw this. > > > > > > http://dsc.discovery.com/news/afp/20060515/chimpmating_ani.html > > > > > > I thought it was interesting because it centers around the x > chromosome. > > > The X chromosome are the home for the autism genes. Now the 64 million > > > dollar question are autism's genes from the chimps are from the > original > > > line of man??? Studies have shown that NTs are like monkeys in that > they > > > will give up rewards to just to look at higher social status monkeys. > > NTs > > > have their infatuation with celebrities (for eample people magazine). > > Also > > > chimps are know for grouping together and killing other chimps not in > > their > > > group. NTs form cliques that ruthless to outsiders. I think we are on > to > > > something here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 > I thought it was interesting because it centers around the x chromosome. The > X chromosome are the home for the autism genes. ... > Studies have shown that NTs are like monkeys in that ... also, NTs like bananas, as do chimps. Autistics like bananas, but NTs like bananas 1/10th more than autistics do. NTs, however, will not give up social status for bananas. It has been found in one study that a large percentage of monkeys have X chromosomes, although none of the monkeys in the study were aware of this. Approximately half of those monkeys had two X chromosomes. All in fun, but we should be careful when ascribing monkey behaviour to any group. All forms of behaviour have a genetic basis, and can be found in relative species. The significance is how the behaviour patterns are reconstructed in humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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