Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 In a message dated 20/09/2006 13:40:23 GMT Daylight Time, florida_native222@... writes: Armour is such a tiny pill...no complaints, but how are you getting a 1/4 of it? Splitting that tiny thing into fours? I buy quaretr grain pills from International Pharmacy and that helps. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 In a message dated 20/09/2006 13:41:45 GMT Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: Well it is your choice but it sounds to me like your adrenals still need the extra cortisol. What Dr Peatfield recommends is that if you have problems tailing off on it, to return to the last comfortable dose and hold it for another couple weeks and try lowering it again. BUT if your adrenals are still too weak, you will go right back into adrenal fatigue symptoms. And if you stop Armour you most likely will go hypo again as well. Problem is I am hypo already Val! Since 2 grains, now on 3 1.4 reduced rfrom 3 1.2 last week because of palps from reducing the h.c. Dr Peatfield says if I have problems tailing off to return to lst comfortable dose for another two weeks. My question is this: would pulse 97 for one night be considered having problems as such? I had palps one night last week and reduced by quarter grain and the palps went. The highish pulse is the only problem I am having from reducing the h/c. What other adrenal symptoms should I expect to see if I am reducing too fast? It may well be that I will not be able to do this but I need to try. Did you have no symptoms whatsoever when you reduced? Nothing at all? Also another question if I may, if I wanted to get rid of night palps if it happens at next reduction in five days or so, would taking 2 1/2 mg h.c when the palps are happening, would this be enough to stop them so I can get to sleep? Thanks Val. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 In a message dated 20/09/2006 15:11:33 GMT Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: ONE day I had light nausea and that was when I realized I needed to lower my AM dose before dropping that last PM dose. The next day I lowered my am dose and was fine. I don't know about what you should be feeling from this but I do know ANY shaking (usually internal) or nausea are signs you still need the HC. If you have to go off Armour to get off HC then it is too soon as it is low cortisol that is causing you to not tolerate Armour again. I wish I could help you more. Maybe it would help to try some of the glandulars or herbals that suggests, but I would be afraid to recommend Licorice with your BO being high in the past. Is it still high? Yes the BP is still high on and off, sometimes it is OK. So i have always avoided licorice for that reason. I took one Nutri Adrenal Extra this morning as back-up and am glad to see you recommend it. No nausea, no shaking. It would make no sense to have to cut back the Armour entirely i agree. I am on 22 1.2 h.c now and will reduce the Armour by another quarter grain today to offset the possibility of more palps tonight and that brings me to three grains. BUT if I were to reduce quarter grain EVERY time I reduce the h.c by 2 1.2 mg and I have 9 h.c reductions left before I am off it entirely, then I would be reduced to 1 grain of Armour at the end of it. Assuming two things there. Firstly that I can come off entirely and secondly that I have problems with each decrease. If I took (by way of going back up on the h.c) 2 1/2 when palps occur at bedtime, would this top the palps Val? Thanks, Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Armour is such a tiny pill...no complaints, but how are you getting a 1/4 of it? Splitting that tiny thing into fours? --- wrote: > >>I cut back from 3 1/2 grains to 3 1/4 before the > weekend and then cut the > h.c by another 2 1/2 on Sunday. Time to cut another > quarter grain do you think?<< > > you can try that or try going back up on Hc for > another few days. Some folks need to take longer > than others to wean off the HC. > > -- > Artistic > Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 >> I am running short of Hydrocortisone so maybe cutting the Armour is the way to go for now. If it keeps happening I will have to up the h.c again as I would be going very low or maybe eventually with lowering h.c, off Armour together! Does this make sense to you?<< Well it is your choice but it sounds to me like your adrenals still need the extra cortisol. What Dr Peatfield recommends is that if you have problems tailing off on it, to return to the last comfortable dose and hold it for another couple weeks and try lowering it again. BUT if your adrenals are still too weak, you will go right back into adrenal fatigue symptoms. And if you stop Armour you most likely will go hypo again as well. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 In a message dated 20/09/2006 17:53:13 GMT Daylight Time, artisticgroomer@... writes: I honestly don't know. Palps can also be caused by LOW thyroid So the best thing I can tell you is try it, if it doesn't stop them then you know low cortisol is not likely the cause of them. If it does, then it is. Why have you suddenly decided to stop the HC? Are you wanting to get testing done, or do you just worry about staying on it too long? Ok that helps. My original plan was to stay on the h.c absolute max 2 years and I had hoped by that time to get optimised on the Armour. But it has all gone badly wrong. It iw two years in Feb/March and I seem to have ground to a halt. I tried raising the h.c to 30 and that did nothing. I tried raising the Armour and that did nothing. I feel just stuck in this place where I am not improving. If it were not for the DLPA I would really not be able to get out at all I think. And as it drags on and on and I try this and that I am very aware of the clock ticking and me getting closer and closer to the deadline I set myself to get off the h.c So it feels like now or never really. And it may turn out to be never but I feel I should at least try. Mo NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 >>Did you have no symptoms whatsoever when you reduced? Nothing at all?<< ONE day I had light nausea and that was when I realized I needed to lower my AM dose before dropping that last PM dose. The next day I lowered my am dose and was fine. I don't know about what you should be feeling from this but I do know ANY shaking (usually internal) or nausea are signs you still need the HC. If you have to go off Armour to get off HC then it is too soon as it is low cortisol that is causing you to not tolerate Armour again. I wish I could help you more. Maybe it would help to try some of the glandulars or herbals that suggests, but I would be afraid to recommend Licorice with your BO being high in the past. Is it still high? -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 >>If I took (by way of going back up on the h.c) 2 1/2 when palps occur at bedtime, would this top the palps Val?<< I honestly don't know. Palps can also be caused by LOW thyroid So the best thing I can tell you is try it, if it doesn't stop them then you know low cortisol is not likely the cause of them. If it does, then it is. Why have you suddenly decided to stop the HC? Are you wanting to get testing done, or do you just worry about staying on it too long? -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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