Re: Exercise lowering blood sugar

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 07/10/2006 16:49:53 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

Exercise will reduce your blood sugar, sometimes dramatically

depending on what type of exercise you have done. Swimming for

instance burns a ton of sugar. Trampolines also burn a lot. The

only times we have come close to having an emergency with my

daughter's blood sugar dropping too low has been at the pool. I

always make sure to take her glucagon emergency kit with me to the

pool. Exercise will also to continue to have that effect throughout

the day after you've exercised. Adrenalin will also burn a lot of

sugar and one should be careful to monitor the blood levels after

adrenalin surges.

The only exercise I am capable of at the moment is walking the dog. Went for

a long one today, longest in quite a while.

Does this lower blood sugar?

Thanks Linn.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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In a message dated 07/10/2006 17:55:04 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

You don't have to walk at a really fast clip either for it

to work. Just try to increase the amount of time if possible. A lot

of diabetics take a walk after every meal

Oh right. I see. After eating. Makes sense now that you have mentioned it.

Mind you after a meal is when I am probably less likely to want to walk,

except after breakfast maybe.

Today, for instance, I had boiled egg in rye crispbread and off I went with

doggie to the beach.

I took with me another boiled egg and the contentous apple, lol

which I ate after my beach walk. And I was still starving afterwards! And I

could not understand it. So what must have happened is that my blood sugar

(and cortisol) lowered through the exertion (this was the longest I have been

able to walk on this particular beach EVER). Not a huge distance just longer

for ME. My dog is hypo also so it was quite funny in a way had you seen us,

both kind of limping home after the walk. He is now crashed out completely and

looking like he ran a marathon and it was only about 2 miles in total!

I think I will take your advice and try to set myself goals in terms of

length of walks etc.

Would that be a good thing do you think?

And what about stress dosing for these longer walks?

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 07/10/2006 19:54:28 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

Mo,

I do think that would be a good goal, but do it slow. With adrenal

problems you don't want to overexert either. Slow and steady I would

think would be the key.

I don't know about the stress dosing, I'd stick with Val's opinion or

someone who knows more about that than I do. I don't know if you

were doing it on a routine basis if it would be considered more

stress or just when you began adding in more exercise. I'm still

trying to take in as much adrenal info as I can, it gets very

complicated.

Hi

Yes I take your point. My long walks, like today, are more unusual so I

suppose could be considered for stress dosing. Val are you there on this?

Generally, I only can manage a couple (if even that) of short walks around

the block every day.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

Walking is great, burns more calories and sugar than a lot of other

activity. You don't have to walk at a really fast clip either for it

to work. Just try to increase the amount of time if possible. A lot

of diabetics take a walk after every meal.

Linn

>

>

> The only exercise I am capable of at the moment is walking the dog.

> Went for

> a long one today, longest in quite a while.

> Does this lower blood sugar?

> Thanks Linn.

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

>

>

[Guest guest]

What about trying a handful of almonds before the walk? The fat last longer

than carbs..........................I love breads but try not to eat them if

I am going for a high protein high fat meal like eggs. I end up eating eggs

and almonds for breakfast, not too thrilling.

-- Re: Exercise lowering blood sugar

In a message dated 07/10/2006 17:55:04 GMT Daylight Time,

linnmiller@... writes:

You don't have to walk at a really fast clip either for it

to work. Just try to increase the amount of time if possible. A lot

of diabetics take a walk after every meal

Oh right. I see. After eating. Makes sense now that you have mentioned it.

Mind you after a meal is when I am probably less likely to want to walk,

except after breakfast maybe.

Today, for instance, I had boiled egg in rye crispbread and off I went with

doggie to the beach.

I took with me another boiled egg and the contentous apple, lol

which I ate after my beach walk. And I was still starving afterwards! And I

could not understand it. So what must have happened is that my blood sugar

(and cortisol) lowered through the exertion (this was the longest I have

been

able to walk on this particular beach EVER). Not a huge distance just longer

for ME. My dog is hypo also so it was quite funny in a way had you seen us,

both kind of limping home after the walk. He is now crashed out completely

and

looking like he ran a marathon and it was only about 2 miles in total!

I think I will take your advice and try to set myself goals in terms of

length of walks etc.

Would that be a good thing do you think?

And what about stress dosing for these longer walks?

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

Mo,

I do think that would be a good goal, but do it slow. With adrenal

problems you don't want to overexert either. Slow and steady I would

think would be the key.

I don't know about the stress dosing, I'd stick with Val's opinion or

someone who knows more about that than I do. I don't know if you

were doing it on a routine basis if it would be considered more

stress or just when you began adding in more exercise. I'm still

trying to take in as much adrenal info as I can, it gets very

complicated.

Linn

>

> Oh right. I see. After eating. Makes sense now that you have

> mentioned it.

> Mind you after a meal is when I am probably less likely to want to

> walk,

> except after breakfast maybe.

> Today, for instance, I had boiled egg in rye crispbread and off I

> went with

> doggie to the beach.

> I took with me another boiled egg and the contentous apple, lol

> which I ate after my beach walk. And I was still starving

> afterwards! And I

> could not understand it. So what must have happened is that my

> blood sugar

> (and cortisol) lowered through the exertion (this was the longest I

> have been

> able to walk on this particular beach EVER). Not a huge distance

> just longer

> for ME. My dog is hypo also so it was quite funny in a way had you

> seen us,

> both kind of limping home after the walk. He is now crashed out

> completely and

> looking like he ran a marathon and it was only about 2 miles in total!

> I think I will take your advice and try to set myself goals in

> terms of

> length of walks etc.

> Would that be a good thing do you think?

> And what about stress dosing for these longer walks?

>

> Mo

>

>> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Walking is great. When my husband's sugar is a bit high, a one-hour

walk does the trick.

However, PLEASE NOTE...

The ADA recommends avoiding exercise if fasting glucose levels are

>250 mg/dl and ketosis is present, and using caution if glucose levels

are >300 mg/dl and no ketosis is present.

So, Val, you would need to be very cautious about exercising at this

point. I'll feel better when you've seen your dr, even if he is a

total wanker about the thyroid.

>

> Walking is great, burns more calories and sugar than a lot of other

> activity. You don't have to walk at a really fast clip either for it

> to work. Just try to increase the amount of time if possible. A lot

> of diabetics take a walk after every meal.

>

[Guest guest]

Now see that I would disagree with. I think the info regarding BS

over 250 and ketones applies to Type 1 diabetics. To advise someone

to stay less active when exercising can lower the BS doesn't make

sense, especially when you are talking about light walking. Now

obviously if you aren't used to walking 2 miles, I wouldn't go out

and do that , but a light stroll around the block would be fine to

start. Obviously with Val's past heart history, she would be well

advised to get a check up before starting an exercise program, and

I'm sure she is well aware of that. But then again, anyone who is

just starting out on an exercise program should do that before

beginning.

I will say that if I had to pick a doctor to treat diabetes, I

wouldn't pick an endo, they treat diabetes the same way they do

thryoid, looking at test results. The majority of the medical

profession is only interested in treating diabetes as a chronic

illness. They treat diabetes and all the related conditions that can

go along with it as if they were separate diseases similar to the

thinking and treating of thyroid disease.

In 2000, Americans spent $110 billion on fast food. This exceeds the

amount spent on higher education, computers or new cars. On any given

day, about 25% of Americans visit a fast food outlet and the typical

American eats three burgers a week from one of 30,000 fast food

outlets. [Guinness Book of World Records]

Money spent on diabetes costs YEARLY - $100,000,000,000 (Yes that's

100 billion).

The ADA is in bed with a lot of food companies. They take millions

of dollars from companies that promote sugar and some pretty sorry

excuses that pass for food. They allow their label to be placed on a

ton of foods that diabetics should not be consuming. IMO they have

no interest in finding a cure for diabetes, they are in the diabetes

business and would be out of business if a cure was found. They are

part of the problem. Specifically the main reason the JDRF was

formed was because parents of diabetic children were so frustrated

that the ADA was not willing to focus on looking for a cure.

Linn

> Walking is great. When my husband's sugar is a bit high, a one-hour

> walk does the trick.

>

> However, PLEASE NOTE...

>

> The ADA recommends avoiding exercise if fasting glucose levels are

> >250 mg/dl and ketosis is present, and using caution if glucose levels

> are >300 mg/dl and no ketosis is present.

>

> So, Val, you would need to be very cautious about exercising at this

> point. I'll feel better when you've seen your dr, even if he is a

> total wanker about the thyroid.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was under the impression that it applies across the board...

from http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=895805

Regular physical exercise has been known to be beneficial in the

treatment of type 2 diabetes. Epidemiological studies of physical

exercise: previous non-randomized studies suggested that a life-style

intervention program involving diet and/or exercise reduced the

progression of impaired glucose tolerance (IGT) to type 2 diabetes.

Recent randomized controlled intervention trials also showed that diet

and/or exercise intervention led to a significant decrease in the

incidence of diabetes among those with IGT. Endocrinological and

metabolic effects of exercise: in well controlled diabetic patients,

physical exercise promotes utilization of blood glucose and lowers

blood glucose levels. On the other hand, in poorly controlled diabetic

patients with ketosis, physical exercise results in further rises in

blood glucose, free fatty acids and ketone body concentrations.

Long-term gentle regular jogging increases insulin action in respect

of both carbohydrate and lipid metabolism despite no influence on body

mass index or maximal oxygen uptake. A significant correlation was

observed between AMCR (insulin sensitivity) and average daily steps (P

< 0.005). Our recent data suggested that the improvement of insulin

action by physical exercise was attributed, at least in part, to the

increase in insulin-sensitive GLUT4 (glucose transporter 4) on the

plasma membrane in skeletal muscle. In conclusion, as an adjunct to

other forms of therapy, mild regular physical exercise will play an

important role in primarily preventing type 2 diabetes.

>

> Now see that I would disagree with. I think the info regarding BS

> over 250 and ketones applies to Type 1 diabetics. To advise someone

> to stay less active when exercising can lower the BS doesn't make

> sense, especially when you are talking about light walking.

>

[Guest guest]

Could be that it just normally applies more to Type 1's as they are

more likely to end up in DKA. Don't know for sure, but I would

imagine that those who have an exercise induced increase would more

than likely be insulin resistant diabetics. Those are usually diet

related.

Linn

> I was under the impression that it applies across the board...

>

> from http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=895805

>

> Regular physical exercise has been known to be beneficial in the

> treatment of type 2 diabetes. Epidemiological studies of physical

> exercise: previous non-randomized studies suggested that a life-style

> intervention program involving diet and/or exercise reduced the

> progression of impaired glucose tolerance (IGT) to type 2 diabetes.

> Recent randomized controlled intervention trials also showed that diet

> and/or exercise intervention led to a significant decrease in the

> incidence of diabetes among those with IGT. Endocrinological and

> metabolic effects of exercise: in well controlled diabetic patients,

> physical exercise promotes utilization of blood glucose and lowers

> blood glucose levels. On the other hand, in poorly controlled diabetic

> patients with ketosis, physical exercise results in further rises in

> blood glucose, free fatty acids and ketone body concentrations.

> Long-term gentle regular jogging increases insulin action in respect

> of both carbohydrate and lipid metabolism despite no influence on body

> mass index or maximal oxygen uptake. A significant correlation was

> observed between AMCR (insulin sensitivity) and average daily steps (P

> < 0.005). Our recent data suggested that the improvement of insulin

> action by physical exercise was attributed, at least in part, to the

> increase in insulin-sensitive GLUT4 (glucose transporter 4) on the

> plasma membrane in skeletal muscle. In conclusion, as an adjunct to

> other forms of therapy, mild regular physical exercise will play an

> important role in primarily preventing type 2 diabetes.

>

>

> >

> > Now see that I would disagree with. I think the info regarding BS

> > over 250 and ketones applies to Type 1 diabetics. To advise someone

> > to stay less active when exercising can lower the BS doesn't make

> > sense, especially when you are talking about light walking.

> >

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/10/2006 09:42:43 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

What about trying a handful of almonds before the walk? The fat last longer

than carbs.......than than than carbs.......<WBR>.........<WBR>.....

I am going for a high protein high fat meal like eggs. I end up eating eggs

and almonds for breakfast, not too thrilling.

Hi there

Almonds huh? Good idea. And I LOVE 'em which helps. I am a bit like you, get

a little sick of eggs, eggs, eggs, though I do like them but I can overdose

at times simply because they are no-carb and easy when my energy is low which

it usually is. And cheap! Lots of good things about eggs really. Should be

getting some chickens in but I don't think the neighbours would approve as I

live in a city.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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I have a friend in another state who had two hens that got killed by coyotes

She just got two more, she says the eggs are better than store bought. My

cats would love to have chickens in the yard, lol. I am in the city too so

no home grown eggs for me. Sure would be nice to have that goat to cut the

grass too!

-- Re: Exercise lowering blood sugar

In a message dated 09/10/2006 09:42:43 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

What about trying a handful of almonds before the walk? The fat last longer

than carbs.......than than than carbs.......<WBR>.........<WBR>.....

I am going for a high protein high fat meal like eggs. I end up eating eggs

and almonds for breakfast, not too thrilling.

Hi there

Almonds huh? Good idea. And I LOVE 'em which helps. I am a bit like you, get

a little sick of eggs, eggs, eggs, though I do like them but I can overdose

at times simply because they are no-carb and easy when my energy is low

which

it usually is. And cheap! Lots of good things about eggs really. Should be

getting some chickens in but I don't think the neighbours would approve as I

live in a city.

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

I have chickens, and the eggs are far superior to grocery store eggs. Ithink

its the fresh air, sunlight, and ability to scratch around for bugs.

My chickens are older now, and not laying as much, so I'm buying eggs AND

feeding the chickens. But I just can't do them in because they aren't producing

for me anymore, ya know? We have coyotoes and fox, and have lost a LOT of

chickens. I had around 25 or more at one time, and now have less than 10, I

think. My dog also got two of them :-(

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---- " C. Mannelli wrote:

> I have a friend in another state who had two hens that got killed by coyotes

> She just got two more, she says the eggs are better than store bought. My

> cats would love to have chickens in the yard, lol. I am in the city too so

> no home grown eggs for me. Sure would be nice to have that goat to cut the

> grass too!

>

> -- Re: Exercise lowering blood sugar

>

>

>

> In a message dated 09/10/2006 09:42:43 GMT Daylight Time,

> smann writes:

>

> What about trying a handful of almonds before the walk? The fat last longer

> than carbs.......than than than carbs.......<WBR>.........<WBR>.....

> I am going for a high protein high fat meal like eggs. I end up eating eggs

> and almonds for breakfast, not too thrilling.

>

> Hi there

> Almonds huh? Good idea. And I LOVE 'em which helps. I am a bit like you, get

>

> a little sick of eggs, eggs, eggs, though I do like them but I can overdose

> at times simply because they are no-carb and easy when my energy is low

> which

> it usually is. And cheap! Lots of good things about eggs really. Should be

> getting some chickens in but I don't think the neighbours would approve as I

>

> live in a city.

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

>

>