Re: Idiot Ann Coulter as Asperger's Syndrome Victim

[Guest guest]

Aaaaaarrrrrgh! It's the " Nutty Professor " all over again!

Is Kathleen S recovered enough for another campaign?

Jane

P.S. Re: Nutty Professor, see

http://www.neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/58/nutty-professors-letters

[Guest guest]

Hi

I object to the word 'victim' when applied to

Aspergers Syndrome!

DIane Kivi

--- Jane Meyerding wrote:

> Aaaaaarrrrrgh! It's the " Nutty Professor " all over

> again!

>

> Is Kathleen S recovered enough for another campaign?

>

> Jane

>

> P.S. Re: Nutty Professor, see

>

http://www.neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/58/nutty-professors-letters

>

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[Guest guest]

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I don't understand why people are upset with this at all. Maybe this

right winger is one of us. So what? I think the whole business of

selectiviely imposing AS on only the PC people we want to include is

more upsetting than having to live with a few rightwing nutcases who

might be more deserving of being ASSpies.

I have known several asspies to be just as guilty of lying, hysterics

and other assinine behavior as this woman. But they are NOT

symptoms of aspergers, just additonal fringe benefits in some cases

and that should be corrected.

Jerry Newport

-- In AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse , " Ari N. "

wrote:

>

> Am I the only one who views this as incredibly offensive? Let's let this

> fellow (a college professor, for the love of God!) know that we don't

> appreciate being used as a pejorative for his political vendettas. (I'm

also

> not terribly fond of being equated with Ann Coulter, or having my

neurology

> accused of being characteristic of hysterics, lying and general

dishonesty)

> If we get enough of us to post fast (it was posted a few hours ago)

> expressing our annoyance, I suspect we'll be able to move him to a

> retraction fairly quickly. Let's get to it. This sort of ignorant prejudice

> is best dealt with by swift advocacy.

>

> -Ari

>

> http://docrod.blogspot.com/2006/06/idiot-ann-coulter-as-

aspergers.html

>

> *After hearing Ann Coulter on the Hannity radio show today

(Thursday),

> it dawned on me -- Ann is a victim of Asperger's Syndrome. Those

afflicted

> with Asperger's Syndrome may have normal or above average

intellectual

> capacity, but also possess atypically inappropriate or poorly

developed

> social skills.

>

> While Coulter is not nearly as intelligent as she and others purport her

to

> be, anyone who graduated from Cornell and Michigan Law possesses

some

> smarts. But, her track record of rhetorical bombthrowing, combined

with her

> flawed attempts at interpersonal communication skills in recent

interviews,

> clearly reveals Asperger's traits. As such, I almost feel sorry for her

> because it does speak to a brain disorder.

>

> I say almost, because she was at it again today. Two things she said

were

> typical of her lack of any understanding of logic. First, she equates

her

> current number one ranking on the New York Times bestseller list as

> indicating a groundswell of support for her berating the so-

called " Jersey

> Girls " . Coulter's prior books have sold from 300,000 to 400,000 hard

copies.

> Those numbers would qualify her as a bestseller, though not a

blockbuster.

> Her cynical attacks on the 9/11 widows has generated a lot of

publicity, and

> probably 1) prompted her normal book-buying audience to buy her

book earlier

> than normal and 2) led to some people to buy her book out of morbid

> curiosity. Remember, NASCAR viewership has never been higher,

but there's a

> chunk of the audience that is not watching to see drivers go around in

a

> circle, but to see the crashes. Right now, Coulter's book is the

equivalent

> of a car accident.

>

> Second, Coulter asserts that liberals have not been complaining

about the

> other claims in her book (that liberals are godless, that evolution is

bunk,

> etc.) and are thus conceding that her arguments are correct. Ms.

Coulter,

> here's a newsflash. Liberals are not addressing those issues because

> liberals are not interested in interplanetary dialogue. Your positions are

> so out there, it's not worth discussion. But, the viciousness by which

the

> 9/11 widows are attacked can't be ignored.

>

> A third claim by Coulter gives creedence to the Asperger's diagnosis.

Twice

> she referred to Corn -- who apparently gave her a prior bad

review of

> her book -- as a heroin addict. If Mr. Corn is a recovering addict, the

ad

> hominem attack was both gratuitous and cruel. If Mr. Corn has never

been an

> addict, Ms. Coulter is in danger of being sued for libel (though Mr.

Corn is

> a public figure, you can't libel a person out of malice, and revenge for

a

> bad review would constitute malice). In either case, the comment is

typical

> of a person suffering from Asperger's Syndrome.

>

> Beyond her present dysfunction, Ms. Coulter has other problems.

>

> 1) She has lied about her age. She has claimed she is 43, but she is

> actually 45.

>

> 2) She is being investigated in Florida for voter fraud, not only giving a

> false address on her voter registration form, but also voting in the

wrong

> district.

>

> 3) She plays fast and loose with the facts, and may have committed

> plagiarism -- check out the Huffington Post, the Rude Pundit and the

Raw

> Story blogs.

>

> Still, that all pales in comparison to suffering from Asperger's. I hope

she

> seeks treatment. Our public discourse could use the break.*

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with everyone about all the bad things they say about this

person. as if she personifys everyone with ASD. They talk alot about

her being a liar, and as for me and a few others i know we are not

good at lying. also it acts like they think that every asperger's is a

social mistake. i know for a fact that not all of us are like that. I

wish the person had read some facts. also maybe asked some questions

to another person with ASD before he desided to lump us all together

and say that we where all liars and social freeks. i think that it was

not a good thing to start sterotyping us that way without knowing all

the facts.

[Guest guest]

I cant agree more with jane on this point. Trying to find a job with

AS is hard enough aws it is without any added stereotypes (especialy

if they are degrading or just plain false.)

Caleb

> >The thing to be upset about is that the entire essay is tongue in

cheek.

> >He's using Asperger's as a means of insulting Coulter, not seriously

> >suggesting she may be one of us. THe purpose behind the essay is, if

> >anything, to insult Ann Coulter, by connecting her with us.

>

> Right. It does not matter at all who is the target of the attack.

> What matters is what the writer implies about people with an

> Asperger's Syndrome diagnosis. He implies that everyone with that

> diagnosis can be expected to have a " brain disorder " (his words) that

> will make the person unreliable and weird and generally not to be

> respected or trusted. Although there may well be some AS-diagnosed

> individuals who fit that description, it is no more fair to say that

> " AS makes them that way " than it is fair to say " Being female makes

> her that way " (in the case of a woman one wishes to bad-mouth) or

> " Being male makes him that way " or " being of Asian ancestry makes xem

> that way " or whatever.

>

> And it is dangerous to all of us when malicious stereotypes are

> spread around. What is the effect on the person who goes for a job

> interview tomorrow and the person doing the hiring has just read some

> diatribe about AS? Even if the job candidate does not " come out " with

> xyr AS/autism diagnosis, any " signs " of AS/autism (or what the

> employer *thinks* are signs of AS/autism) may be taken as proof that

> the candidate is dangerously unstable -- or at least too big a risk.

>

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

>

> The thing to be upset about is that the entire essay is tongue in cheek.

> He's using Asperger's as a means of insulting Coulter, not seriously

> suggesting she may be one of us. THe purpose behind the essay is, if

> anything, to insult Ann Coulter, by connecting her with us.

>

>

Upon re-reading the essay, I agree with that. I am glad he took it down.

The author would have made a more efficient insult by just noting that

Joe Mele is an admirer of Coulter

However, Coulter could certainly be one of us. Lots of women aren't

diagnosed because it is easier to be written off as the B-word or other

impolite nouns than admit to a syndrome. An obsessive aspie woman can

just mainstream as anorexic for example. Coulter's extremely judgmental

outlook and social ineptitude certainly help qualify her to join us.

Jerry Newport

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > The thing to be upset about is that the entire essay is tongue

in cheek.

> > > He's using Asperger's as a means of insulting Coulter, not

seriously

> > > suggesting she may be one of us. THe purpose behind the essay

is, if

> > > anything, to insult Ann Coulter, by connecting her with us.

> > >

> > >

> > Upon re-reading the essay, I agree with that. I am glad he took

it down.

> >

> > The author would have made a more efficient insult by just

noting that

> > Joe Mele is an admirer of Coulter

> >

> > However, Coulter could certainly be one of us. Lots of women

aren't

> > diagnosed because it is easier to be written off as the B-word

or other

> > impolite nouns than admit to a syndrome. An obsessive aspie

woman can

> > just mainstream as anorexic for example. Coulter's extremely

judgmental

> > outlook and social ineptitude certainly help qualify her to join

us.

> >

> > Jerry Newport

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Ari

>

> I think that jerry was joking by his use of I think after more

than a

> year of seeing jerry in action. I think I can see when he is joking.

>

>

Joe, thanks for the confirmation. It was definitely a joke and I

appreciate that you took it that way!!

Jerry Newport