Re: hi

November 20, 2005

Excellent information. This is good post. I wonder if you have any advice for me about nutritional supplements and if you could elaborate a little more about the Omega 3 in relation to the Omega 6 fatty acids you mentioned in an earlier post. Dawn. mary jaye wrote: thanks Lily, I actually took catherines advice and took 2 mgs of seroquil and i just cant believe that, that was what i was withdrawling from. I thought it was the zanax. Now i have hope. Ive printed out everything to show my doctor on monday and i just pray she will work with me. Thanks for your words of wisdom:)

maryCVEmery wrote: Jaye, you can do it and you will! I felt the same way when I joined two days ago. Before I joined this group, I had ordered a program called Attacking Anxiety and Depression. There is a 30 day trial offer where you pay for shipping only and if you send it back, they pay for shipping that way and you don't owe a thing. I've started my 30 day trial and it is really going to work for my anxiety!! It's expensive but I know you can get it "secondhand" on eBay too. It's by Lucinda Bassett at Midwest something or other. Of course you'll need more than that while you withdraw but once you do, this program is wonderful at bringing us anxiety ridden folks back

to normal.... for a lifetime. Best, Lily Re: Re: hi oh my god people that

actually care. I am crying right now. Um...yes my body feels like it's dying.1. i take 1 mg xanax when i wake up. rhis could be any time before 12. Im tring to take 100 mg of seroquil later in the day so i can relax more.2. i have been taking xanax since i was 15, i am now 23. And i started on 500mg of seoquil at the beggining of this year because that was yet another attempt of mine to get of xanax, it led to a mental brakedown to where i couldnt consentrate or sleep, & my thoughts were racing. My doc tells me there is no side effect from coming off seroquil, but i know that's crap!3. I want to stop taking these pills because im tired of having to take these pills. Im not nuts, and I think anxiety can be treated with therapy. It has been a rollercoaster ride with the xanax for as long as i can remember. I can feel my body starting to feel bad in less than a day before it's time for my dose, which means my body wants more. THis

drug is taking over my life, but i'm afraid to come off of it now. I don't want to die, because some doctor won't work with me how my body needs it done. i go back to the doc on mon. im going to print all of this and show it to her. She knows i really want to come off of it, but she needs to see what's really going on. Thankyou so much for caring. please write me backccreel_04064 wrote: >> Well i came from 3mg about a month ago. Now I am on 2. I have recently tried the taking 4 halves for 2 weeks and then 3 halves for 2 weeks, and my body couldnt handle it. I felt nuts. i couldnt

go outside. No motivation once so ever! I cant have a life. So ive come to the conclusion that maybe i do need it.And there just shouldnt be such a stigma attached to it. I am also taking Seroquil. in about a months time i came off of 500mg down to about 1 a day now. Are there any side effects to coming off of that drug?> ** Yes, Seroquel is a very difficult drug to discontinue. The problems you are having are because you are reducing too quickly. The doctor told you it was slow, but it's not. They don't know what is slow. You were on 3 mg. of Xanax. A month later you were on 2 mg. Does this mean that at some point you dropped one whole milligram or did you do it in phases? Did you drop a half milligram every two weeks? It helps me to know exactly how you did it, but either way, you went too

fast. If you dropped even half of a mg. at a time, this would be a reduction of 16.66%. If you dropped by an entire mg., this would be a 33.3% reduction. You did the same with Seroquel. I'm going to assume you mean you are now on 100 mg. but were at 500 mg a month ago. This is an EIGHTY PERCENT reduction in a month! Let me be frank here. You feel like shit because you are going off TWO drugs at once (not advisable unless you're taking 6 or more drugs) and you're going off them much too quickly. We recommend 5%-10% reductions of ONE DRUG AT A TIME. This is what we have found that works. Also, you don't set time frames for reductions. You go by how you feel. Your body is your best guide. When you do an initial reduction of 5 or 10%, you wait until you feel fine again. Then, you do the next

reduction, which would be 5-10% of the last dose you took. You also have to decide which dose to take it from . You didn't say how you take it -- how many times a day and at what times of day. I saw another post of yours that stated maybe you really need this. This is exactly what the drug companies want you to believe which is why they tell the doctors reduction schedules that are too fast. Doing what you are doing is causing damage to your system. This needs to change. Now, about Seroquel. Why would you take an antipsychotic? How long have you taken this drug? ly, if I were you, I'd stop taking this one first, then I'd deal with the Xanax. Many people find it much easier to switch to Valium and work at getting off that rather than trying to reduce the Xanax. Being a drug with a short half-life, Xanax is

difficult to discontinue. Id this making sense to you? Here's what I need from you if you want help:1) I need to know exactly how and when you take the Xanax and Seroquel. This means dose and time.2) I need to know how long you've been taking Seroquel and Xanax.3) I need to know all the reasons you are discontinuing each. Here's what you need to know in order to get out of this mess.1) You need to begin your normal dose (3 mg) of Xanax again.2) You need to increase the Seroquel, hopefully not to 500 mg. again but it may have to be. Try 300mg. first, and see how that goes. Then try 400 mg. if 300 mg is not helping. If these don't work, go back up to 5mg.3) If you take the suggestion above, then you need to let us know whether there is a good reason to discontinue the Xanax before discontinuing

Seroquel. I've spent the time spelling this out for you so you can see we're about action here. Let us know what you want to do.Regards, Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

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November 20, 2005

>

> Excellent information. This is good post. I wonder if you have

any advice for me about nutritional supplements and if you could

elaborate a little more about the Omega 3 in relation to the Omega 6

fatty acids you mentioned in an earlier post.>>

Dear Dawn,

There is a post in the FILES section titled " Basic Healing

Protocol " . It contains genewral recommendations. For protocols more

tailored to the individual private consultations are offered. The

info is also in the FILES and titled " 's Consultation Info " .

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/files/

You may also want to look at the folder titled NUTRITION.

As far as the omega 6/3 info, the human body requires a ratio of at

the least 4:1 omega-6 (n-6) to omega-3 (n-3) fatty acids. It is even

better to be 2:1 or 1:1. The average person today eats a diet of

22:1 or as much as 32:1 n-6 to n-3. This has serious negative

consequences on one's health. In our FILES there are also articles

on fish oil.

<http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Withdrawal_and_Recovery/files/Su

pplements/>

What I wanted people to take from the post I mentioned was how to

slowly reduce a psychotropic drug. The things being taken by anyone

else here does not necessarily mean that others should be following

this protocol. Biochemical individuality is real and plays a huge

role in how one metabolizes nutrients from foods, toxins from foods,

supplements and herbs, and, of course, drugs.

Regards,

November 20, 2005

>

> What is seroquel? An anti depressant or benzo or somthing else?

** Here's what I tell everyone who asks similar questions.

Please go to www.google.com and put the search term Seroquel in the

box. Click SEARCH.

Because we have a high volume of messages on this list, I ask that

questions where there is an obvious definitive answer most likely

easily found, be taken care of yourself and not posted to the list.

Thanks!

Regards,

Fishing Instructor Extraordinaire

November 20, 2005

Hi Kim, You are absolutely right. There is no help for getting off meds in the recognized medical system. The good news is we do not need their help. We can take back control over our bodies, minds, and health. The instructions for tapering off meds are simple. They do not require medical assistance. The guideline is to make cuts of no more than 5-10% and wait until you are stable before making another cut. I am so glad to hear you are going to start tapering slowly! It took me a while to realize I had to settle in for the long haul. I've been tapering since May and have about 3.5 more months to go. You can do this!

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November 20, 2005

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>To: Withdrawal_and_Recovery

>Subject: Re: hi

>Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:11:01 -0000

>

> >

> > What is seroquel? An anti depressant or benzo or somthing else?

>

> ** Here's what I tell everyone who asks similar questions.

>Please go to www.google.com and put the search term Seroquel in the

>box. Click SEARCH.

>

> Because we have a high volume of messages on this list, I ask that

>questions where there is an obvious definitive answer most likely

>easily found, be taken care of yourself and not posted to the list.

>

> Thanks!

>

>Regards,

>

>Fishing Instructor Extraordinaire

>

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November 20, 2005

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December 20, 2005

DEar Jem,

Whewn yousay " gradually " what exactly do you mean? Over what period

of time did you do this?

Regards,

> hi,

> i am new to this group and have been off lexapro for about a week, i was

originally on 20 mg then reduced gradually to 5 then nothing. my experience

with antidepressants is that after going off of them at aroud the 6 month point

i start to feel depressed again but i always stopped abruptly. while i am on

antidepressants i tend to feel numb and unmotivated though, so i don't see it as

the answer for me. my question right now is that for the past 3 years i have

been taking benadryl 50 mg every night to sleep. i have recently reduced that

to 25 mg but would like to stop completely. when i try to sleep without it i'm

up all night long, any suggestions?

> jem

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May 29, 2006

Heya

Just out of curiosity what country do you live in? I know if I were to work

(over a certain amount) I'd loose my (we call it) pension.

>

> i have been reading your group for almost 2 months now and have

> finally worked up the courage to say hello and tell a little about

> myself. my name is natalie i am 27. i was diagnosed with asd at 21. it

> is really nice to know that there are others out there like me who

> were not diagnosed untill later in there lives, it makes me feel not

> so alone. my mom took me to a symposium on autism earlier this month

> and it was great. i learned alot, like i had no clue that i could work

> and not loose my benifits. i'm really exited about that because now i

> can help with some of my extra expenses. was recently diagnosed with

> fibromyalgia on top of several other problems i already had, kinda

> curious if others of you suffer from afflictions on top of your

> autisum. i hope i am not being confusing. this is a great site.

> natalie whitt

>

May 29, 2006

what is asd that is not a dignoses.there is autism,asperger's

syndrome.pdd-nos.rett's,cdd.witch one do you have autism is known be 3-5 years

of age.asperger's IQ over 90 under 90 pdd-nos,rett's is for girls only most with

IQ of 0-35,and cdd boy's starting at 5years old and by 10 cant talk and do the

same things like children and adults with autism do.thomas