Re: Help treating adrenals.

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Cortef is the brand name in the USA for Hydrocortisone, which we

abbreviate to HC.

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It's a good idea imo to get a Saliva Test for your sex

hormones because the adrenals use Progesterone to make

Cortisol. Low Progesterone = low adrenal function for

making Cortisol.

That's not the only cause for low adrenal function of

course, but Progesterone levels should always be taken

into account in the whole picture.

From what I understand, many Stage 5 people give

Isocort a try before they try HC, and for some the

Isocort works out for them.

My thinking on this is that those people for whom

Isocort works best are nearer the beginning of Stage

5, and those for whom HC works better are probably

closer to the end of Stage 5, nearer to Stage 6.

That's just my own take on it though.

But, sometimes people in Stage 5 start out on HC

instead of Isocort, or end up switching from Isocort

to HC after trying Isocort with poor results.

It's very individual and what each person does will

depend on how what is working best for them. There

isn't a " one size fits all " solution. It has to be

tailored to your own situation.

Whichever is tried, imo it is good to take several

weeks to even work up to the optimal dose first, and

then after that stay there for at least 4 - 5 weeks

before really being able to say whether it is working

well. Then at that point adjustments can be made if

needed, Armour added, etc.

You can always start out on the Isocort if you're

leery about jumping right into HC, and see if it works

for you, or if it doesn't work, whether you'll need to

go to HC.

There is a chart on stopthemadness that I think Val or

made that shows how to increase and work up to

your optimal dosage of HC or Isocort.

Hope you are feeling better soon! Remember that eating

schedule and the gentle walking, that helps with the

hypoglycemia too.

--- hamerreda3 wrote:

>

> >

> > It seems quite a lot of people in later stages of

> > Adrenal Fatigue really need HC, rather than

> Isocort,

> > so if you're in stage 6 or 7 or even 5, you might

> do

> > better on HC than Isocort. Do you know what stage

> > you're in?

> >

> > I was very sick with severe hypoglycemia for 3

> years

> > back in the early/mid 1990's. I found then that

> it's a

> > good idea to take the three meals a day and divide

> > each meal up into two smaller meals, eaten every 3

> to

> > 4 hours throughout the day from the time I got up

> > until the time I went to bed - making sure there

> is

> > plenty of protein in each meal.

> >

> > This way I avoided that nasty drop in blood sugar

> a

> > few hours after eating. If it did happen at the

> > beginning of learning how to do this, then I just

> > moved the smaller meals a bit closer together,

> > time-wise.

> >

> > Also I kept a protein snack next to my bed at

> night,

> > usually a peanut butter sandwich or two. And I

> always

> > had a jug of orange juice with me, no matter where

> I

> > went, in case of a very bad blood sugar drop in

> which

> > I was going to pass out. That usually saved me,

> but

> > then of course I had to eat protein immediately

> also

> > so that the orange juice itself wouldn't cause a

> > horrid blood sugar spike and then drop.

> >

> > Also I cut out all caffeine, and sugars of all

> kinds,

> > except when I was fairly well over the

> hypoglycemia

> > and then I could have some apple along with

> protein,

> > such as a slice of apple and cheese.

> >

> > Along with that, I began walking 15 minutes a day

> on

> > the treadmill, or outside. Not vigorous walking,

> just

> > regular, nice walking. No breaking a sweat at all.

>

> >

> > Together these two things got rid of the

> hypoglycemia,

> > but for me doing one without the other doesn't

> work.

> > It has to be both walking at least once a day, AND

> > eating small meals every few hours.

> >

> > Also, I had found back then a Dr. who started me

> on

> > HC, and that really helped to lessen the

> hypoglycemia.

> > At the time my adrenals were shot, even though I

> > didn't know what stage I was in or anything, so

> this

> > really helped me.

> >

> > It's really important to make sure your adrenals

> are

> > well supported before beginning on Thyroid

> medication

> > if you need them, from what I understand. How was

> your

> > Progesterone level? Estrogen level? What stage of

> > Adrenal Fatigue are you in?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you for the reply,i was at stage 5 at the

> time of the

> test,my sIGA was also depressedmy neurotrnasmitter

> levels were out

> of whack also,as far as the hormone levels go i have

> no clue as i

> was not tested for this.

> So basically i probably need to be on HC then huh?

> Thanksagain for the input.

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Cortef is a brand name of H/C

Lynda

Re: Help treating adrenals.

> This may be a silly question, but I take Cortef and I don't ever see

> anyone

> mention that on here.

> Is Cortef HC or Isocort?

>

> Thanks.

>

>

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Cortef is HC.

--- NeuroticBinger wrote:

> This may be a silly question, but I take Cortef and

> I don't ever see anyone

> mention that on here.

> Is Cortef HC or Isocort?

>

> Thanks.

>

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Thanks!

>

> Cortef is HC.

>

>

>

> --- NeuroticBinger <greysheeter@... <greysheeter%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > This may be a silly question, but I take Cortef and

> > I don't ever see anyone

> > mention that on here.

> > Is Cortef HC or Isocort?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Thanks !

>

> Cortef is the brand name in the USA for Hydrocortisone, which we

> abbreviate to HC.

>

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>

> It's a good idea imo to get a Saliva Test for your sex

> hormones because the adrenals use Progesterone to make

> Cortisol. Low Progesterone = low adrenal function for

> making Cortisol.

>

> That's not the only cause for low adrenal function of

> course, but Progesterone levels should always be taken

> into account in the whole picture.

>

> From what I understand, many Stage 5 people give

> Isocort a try before they try HC, and for some the

> Isocort works out for them.

>

> My thinking on this is that those people for whom

> Isocort works best are nearer the beginning of Stage

> 5, and those for whom HC works better are probably

> closer to the end of Stage 5, nearer to Stage 6.

> That's just my own take on it though.

>

> But, sometimes people in Stage 5 start out on HC

> instead of Isocort, or end up switching from Isocort

> to HC after trying Isocort with poor results.

>

> It's very individual and what each person does will

> depend on how what is working best for them. There

> isn't a " one size fits all " solution. It has to be

> tailored to your own situation.

>

> Whichever is tried, imo it is good to take several

> weeks to even work up to the optimal dose first, and

> then after that stay there for at least 4 - 5 weeks

> before really being able to say whether it is working

> well. Then at that point adjustments can be made if

> needed, Armour added, etc.

>

> You can always start out on the Isocort if you're

> leery about jumping right into HC, and see if it works

> for you, or if it doesn't work, whether you'll need to

> go to HC.

>

> There is a chart on stopthemadness that I think Val or

> made that shows how to increase and work up to

> your optimal dosage of HC or Isocort.

>

> Hope you are feeling better soon! Remember that eating

> schedule and the gentle walking, that helps with the

> hypoglycemia too.

>

>

>

>

Ok thanksi will see if i can get the sex hormones tested

I may have o make an appointment to see this naturalist doc in my

area,as he was the one that ordered the rest of my tests.

My regular doctor i saw previously just wanted to prescribe beta

blockers,even though i have a perfectly healthy heart.

Go figure.

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, mid range for thyroid labs is not a good place to be. Your

problems could be hypo still! Most of us feel best with the T3 near the

top of it's range if not slightly over, and the T4 near the top as well.

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Hi, I didn't have tests either,doc wouldn't do them and I can't

afford them.But I ordered isocort and 3 weeks later ITS WORKING. I

just realized yesterday when I was doing a lot that I wasn't sweating

like a pig, which I have been doing for quite a while.I was also able

to raise my armour with no problem. I feel great!My ENT is the only

doc that will will even give me advice. So find what works for you

and go for it.LOL

Debbie

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NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

wrote:

>

> There is no way I can afford tests out of pocket; that isn't going

to happen. I was able to determine that stage 4 AF fits me to a T. I

have ordered Isocort to accompany my Armour. I will see how it works

for me. I also am taking SP dessicated adrenals, which I will

continue taking. I will adjust dosages to how I feel. I am seeing a

new doctor Nov. 6th - am hoping I will finally find a doc that can be

a partner with me in improving my health. Just to sleep at night

without waking up would be a blessing. I have tried EVERYTHING on the

market for sleep, and so far nothing. I am so tired of being tired. I

have high hopes of this doc as he treats Fibro (which I have, but the

hypoT came first with me), and prescribes Armour. The jury is out

until I have actually spoken with him. He did do an interview with

Shomon, which is why I have high hopes.

>

>

>

>

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Hi,

You said:

" For example my fiancee at home often gets away with

alot of things,where in the past if i were in good

health i would of probaby put her out of the house,or

she would voluntarily leave because she woldn't be

able to get away with doing what she wants. "

but then you said this:

" Honestly if my relationship ended today i don't think

i would be able to cope. "

It sounds like you might be in a relationship where

you feel damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Kind of stuck in something unhealthy and stressful,

but yet will have even more stress if you take steps

to end it.

I guess what I would do in a situation like that is

sit down and look at all the factors. Would it be

better for my health to not be going through this

stress day after day after day with the fiance there?

Yes, of course.

But, if I broke up with her, would I be able to stand

the stress of her leaving, and be able to pick myself

up and go on with life in a relatively short period of

time, and not have that daily stress in my life that's

making me sicker now?

So, look at all the factors, and then decide what will

be best for you now AND in the long run.

Imo, if someone says they love you and knows that you

are sick and cannot tolerate stress, yet continues to

do things on purpose that make you sicker, this is not

really love, this is selfishness.

You and she are the only ones who know the whole

story. Whether you've tried sitting down and talking

with her about your illness, what you need, what you

need from her, what you cannot tolerate that makes you

sicker, etc. all of these things should be discussed

so that she has a clear idea of what is wrong with you

and what she can do to HELP you, not make you sicker.

Arguing every day and trying to " get away with things "

is not really an example of two people who love each

other, have compassion and caring and respect for each

other.

People who truly love each other would never even

think of doing something that would make the other one

sicker, but would do all they can to help heal. That

is real love and caring about someone else.

People with adrenal dysfunction need the very least

amount of stress in their lives possible. And we need

supportive spouses/friends, not people who add to the

stress and make us sicker. You mentioned this

relationship is " wrecking your social and personal

life " , so it sounds very destructive and not like a

healing, loving relationship at all.

---

wrote:

> Okay, some may say that your sensitive when you have

> weak adrenals but this could be because your tired

> and

> it’s tough to cope with anything or anyone when your

> tired.

>

> --- hamerreda3 wrote:

>

> > --- I know this is kind of off topic,but i am

> > curious to find out if

> > any one else here experiences thjis.

> > I have a major problem that is wrecking my

> > social,and personal life.

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In a message dated 10/11/2006 7:44:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

ybr1959@... writes:

People with adrenal dysfunction need the very least

amount of stress in their lives possible. And we need

supportive spouses/friends, not people who add to the

stress and make us sicker. You mentioned this

relationship is " wrecking your social and personal

life " , so it sounds very destructive and not like a

healing, loving relationship at all.

:

You could not have said it better!

Helen

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I'm laughing at what I wrote - high at night - lol - cortisol is high at

night that is...

My thyroid levels came back in range - my estrogen was high with CC, but

normal with bloodwork - and I do take HRT replacement - changed my dosages

around some - but am now back to where I was - didn't feel well with the

change.

There are two of us that you are responding to on here - I am taking iron as

well - ferritin got into normal range, still low, with last bloodwork.

I am at my wits end here.

SeaLady

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Hi, I hate for everybody to think that isocort is to lite.I've been

taking it for almost a month.I hate to admit I was in such a hurry to

feel better that I was up to 8 pellets within 5 days.

I should have stuck to the scheduele because I had a thyroid

dump.Thats a warning for those who are in a hurry.Take your time and

let your body adjust to what you are doing to it. One thing at a

time.I started armour and new I was doing the right thing by the way

I felt.6 weeks later I started iodine in the form of liquid kelp,Then

x-tra C and then selenium,then isocort, then sea salt,Then stopped my

water pill.The point is that you have to let your body adjust to each

and every thing that you do.Take your armour, give it some time to

see how you feel, not every thing is related to thyroid. I have a

down time everyday, its from 3-4 and I have always been that way. For

a while though there were things that I thought were thyroid and

down the road relized that they were things I always had.I would like

to think more is related to thyroid but I know its not.My adrenals

are so close to being healed, my armour is so close to being

optimized, that all I have learned on these sites is right on the

nose. All I have to do is listen.LOL Debbie

In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS ,

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> Have you had anything else checked? Adrenals? Ferritin/iron? Sex

Hormones? There are a LOT of overlapping symptoms with different

hormonal problems.

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> > and both free t-3 & free t-4 were mid range I do have antibodies

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> > My pulse is now at 85 morning temp 97.2 daily 98.1

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> > Do you have thyroid labs you can add to this?

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