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I have done several online IQ tests out of interest. They regularly

come out about 10 - 15 points above the reality. Often this is

because they are hoping the user will buy a product, usually a more

detailed report than the free edition.

The cognitive profile of people with ASD generally includes great

discrepancy between subtests. When this happens, it is nonsense to

allocate an overall IQ score because it bears no relationship to your

overall functioning. A credible psychologist will explain that to you

and will not allocate an overall score.

> I've heard that some IQ tests show higher or lower scores

than other

> ones. Maybe you took the wrong one for aspies/auties.

> I've heard the Raven/Rayven one is better for autism. You might have a

> higher-than-normal IQ. Who knows.

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Hi Gprobs,

Mine is quite credible, and gave me about 14 pages of breakdowns, including

many details about how I used one skill to compensate for lack of another. I

think she explained it pretty well, but i am still getting used to all the

emotions that go with it. I do not like the idea of bieng lonely. I love being

online with other ASD folk, since I know I fit in here- even when I don't. (Is

there such a thing as not fitting in here?) the person I went to was not trying

to sell me anything, and did not make any recommendation for continued use of

her services per se, but gave me a huge number of great ideas. Some are not

even that expensive. One was about Meyer's book! I will have to check it

out.

I can relate to the hype that is out there with regard to selling products.

Those guys give the same results to anyone who takes their tests-- when I was in

college, a bunch of my classmates did the free test just to debunk its accuracy,

for one local company that was trying to sell its product. We all had a good

laugh over it, at the time.

gprobs wrote:

I have done several online IQ tests out of interest. They regularly

come out about 10 - 15 points above the reality. Often this is

because they are hoping the user will buy a product, usually a more

detailed report than the free edition.

The cognitive profile of people with ASD generally includes great

discrepancy between subtests. When this happens, it is nonsense to

allocate an overall IQ score because it bears no relationship to your

overall functioning. A credible psychologist will explain that to you

and will not allocate an overall score.

> I've heard that some IQ tests show higher or lower scores

than other

> ones. Maybe you took the wrong one for aspies/auties.

> I've heard the Raven/Rayven one is better for autism. You might have a

> higher-than-normal IQ. Who knows.

>

> -Furball

>

>

>

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> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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I dont fit in here very well. it is why I only post occaisionlly.

anyway, thats not a big issue. Where is this very good online test?

> > I've heard that some IQ tests show higher or lower scores

> than other

> > ones. Maybe you took the wrong one for aspies/auties.

> > I've heard the Raven/Rayven one is better for autism. You might have a

> > higher-than-normal IQ. Who knows.

> >

> > -Furball

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> I dont fit in here very well. it is why I only post occaisionlly.

Can you say why? Maybe the rest of us can help be being aware?

Though sometimes it is kinda fun to be more of a loiterer. I often

don't relate that well to this list either, but I like reading it.

Genyin

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The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. "

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i dont know. have had problems in the past.

> > I dont fit in here very well. it is why I only post occaisionlly.

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> Can you say why? Maybe the rest of us can help be being aware?

> Though sometimes it is kinda fun to be more of a loiterer. I often

> don't relate that well to this list either, but I like reading it.

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> Genyin

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> " I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind!

> The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. "

> M. Schultz

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There is such a wide range of personality types on this list that I don't

know who does or doesn't fit in here. I guess we all do, or none of us do...

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> i dont know. have had problems in the past.

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> > > I dont fit in here very well. it is why I only post occaisionlly.

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> >

> > Can you say why? Maybe the rest of us can help be being aware?

> > Though sometimes it is kinda fun to be more of a loiterer. I often

> > don't relate that well to this list either, but I like reading it.

> >

> > Genyin

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> >

> > --

> > " I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind!

> > The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. "

> > M. Schultz

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Hi Tom and ,

When I first joined, I was not too sure if I would be accepted, because I had

managed not to fit into so many things! I have learned that it is a consequence

of being AS, and that people here do tend to be way more tolerant of

differences, as well as social errors.

De Carlo wrote:

There is such a wide range of personality types on this list that I

don't

know who does or doesn't fit in here. I guess we all do, or none of us do...

>

> i dont know. have had problems in the past.

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> > > I dont fit in here very well. it is why I only post occaisionlly.

> >

> >

> > Can you say why? Maybe the rest of us can help be being aware?

> > Though sometimes it is kinda fun to be more of a loiterer. I often

> > don't relate that well to this list either, but I like reading it.

> >

> > Genyin

> >

> >

> > --

> > " I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind!

> > The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. "

> > M. Schultz

> >

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> Sorry for the confusion. I didn't mean we *should* all fit in or none of us

> *should* fit in. I meant that it is only a matter of perspective whether or

> not anyone fits into this group. There are so many different types of people

> here that there really is no " in " .

I guess it depends how you feel, and how others in the group respond

to you. There are online groups I'm in that I love, feel a valid part

of and that I can help and be helped. There are other groups that I

feel more on the edge of. That's OK; it would be unrealistic to

expect to " fit " everywhere. It's harder for people who either don't

have the energy/time/internet access to try various groups or who seem

unable despite trying to find a place they belong.

I was lucky that my first real AC e-mail list, inlv, was an amazing

environment when I joined. It means I know it can work for me. Some

unfortunately never get this experience.

Genyin, who wants every AC to find their valid place in the world

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" I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind!

The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. "

M. Schultz

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lol i have done this before. all my details are there. it drove me

crazy the first time and it still is annoying. I don't think it is an

IQ test. maybe more a test for social functioning but I think the

questions are not really specific.

for example:

This question seems to be the most bizarre of all:

Are you sometimes afraid in safe situations?

Good grief. if I am safe, I don't feel afraid. If I feel afraid, I

am not safe. People find different situations safe/unsafe. i feel

safe walking around my house but a person with visual challenges is

going to be unsafe in my house because I keep a lot of things on the

floor. I feel very unsafe in my daugher's house because she has lots

of huggers who visit and just walk in. I don't know if she feels safe

in my house because I have not asked. I feel safe camping in my

little tent alone in the bush. Lots of people would be too scared to

do that. They don't have a box for my answer.

> > > I've heard that some IQ tests show higher or lower scores

> > than other

> > > ones. Maybe you took the wrong one for aspies/auties.

> > > I've heard the Raven/Rayven one is better for autism. You might

have a

> > > higher-than-normal IQ. Who knows.

> > >

> > > -Furball

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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gprobs wrote: I dont fit in here very well. it is why

I only post occaisionlly.>>>

I disagree

I hope you will not continue to 'feel' that way.

Perhaps it is just a perception.

K

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Princess <

creativelywired@...> wrote:

> www.rdos.net/Aspie-quiz

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> gprobs <gprobs@... <gprobs%40yahoo.com.au>> wrote: I dont fit in

> here very well. it is why I only post occaisionlly.

>

>

> anyway, thats not a big issue. Where is this very good online test?

>

>

> > > I've heard that some IQ tests show higher or lower scores

> > than other

> > > ones. Maybe you took the wrong one for aspies/auties.

> > > I've heard the Raven/Rayven one is better for autism. You might have a

> > > higher-than-normal IQ. Who knows.

> > >

> > > -Furball

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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I dont fit in here very well. it is why

> I only post occaisionlly.>>>

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> I disagree

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> I hope you will not continue to 'feel' that way.

> Perhaps it is just a perception.

> K

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kind words. tx

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> Even if you feel that way, we ASD folk deal with facts more easily than

feelings. I have no facts at all to indicate that you do not fit in, and can

find plenty of evidence that you do. Hope this makes you feel better-- oh well!

You fit in fine, anyway!

hmmm, I wonder if it's helpful to tell someone who feels they aren't

fitting that they are. It's the kind of thing NT folks have done to

me far too much and always makes me feel invalidated despite it's done

through good intentions. I tend to agree that those pave the way to

hell.

I dunno ...

Genyin

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" I know the answer! The answer lies within the heart of all mankind!

The answer is twelve? I think I'm in the wrong building. "

M. Schultz

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