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In a message dated 01-06-24 21:34:01 EDT, you write:

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Errr.. nope.. " common sense? " >>

By " common sense " I meant that it's known fact that carbs turn into glucose;

glucose raises BGs. No argument there, is there? Vicki

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In a message dated 01-06-24 22:24:39 EDT, you write:

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yes, I will respond appropriately. The post was not that " common sense

would tell you that carbs turn into sugar " , it was that common sense

would tell you to low carb. I don't low carb, so I don't possess common

sense?? >>

Nope, you misunderstood, Dave...I DID mean " common sense would tell you that

carbs turn into sugar,. " not the other. Vicki

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Non-diabetics BG does go up when they eat, but it is down in the normal range

two or three hours after eating.

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In a message dated 6/24/2001 1:11:42 PM Central Daylight Time,

woodduckflds@... writes:

> Lizz- I did not send this post.

>

>

>

I was just saying that my doc told me a normal non diabetic can go up to 180,

and its perfectly normal.

Others seem to disagree.

ialso posted a question about my children spiking 200 and more, that noone

has responded to.

IM quite disappointed that everyone can post to tell me how wrong me and my

doctor are, but noone can give me their opinion on something so important to

me.

Lizz

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What are the 3 test? I assume A1C, lipid panel, Glucose.

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lizzbeth97@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 6/23/2001 12:22:54 PM Central Daylight Time,

> resmith315@... writes:

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> > Really?? I specifically asked my endo how high a non diabetic would go

> > after

> > eating a meal of candy bars, cotton candy and soda. He stated that a non

> > diabetics glucose would never be over 140 no matter what they

> > ate....hmmm....

> > ressy

> >

>

> well, i guess not all docs have the same info huh?

> lizz

Not all docs know beans about diabetic treatment..

WASHINGTON, June 6 /U.S. Newswire/ -- In a recent national

survey of physicians, more than 90 percent of the country's primary

care doctors could not correctly name the top three tests that a

person with diabetes should have on a regular basis -- tests that

could save their lives, experts say. More than 90 percent of

American's with diabetes receive their medical care from primary

care doctors, rather than diabetes specialists.

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I try to make everyone's day a little more surreal.

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In a message dated 06/25/2001 8:25:03 AM Central Daylight Time,

fencible@... writes:

> . I do know that two fasting

> readings over 126 qualifies you for the team though

ya....is that the same for kids and type 1's?

lizz

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Lizz,

Thems is fightin words. Maybe you'all just need to take a breather then

come back in when ya can play nice. LOL (Just trying to lighten things up

a bit - smile, please?)

Kim

>Dave, can I ask you why your so rude?

>Having a bad day or something?

>Lizz

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Bill Eastman wrote:

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> What are the 3 test? I assume A1C, lipid panel, Glucose.

Here's more of the same article:

In the survey commissioned by Washington Hospital Center in

Washington, D.C., one of the country's leading centers for diabetes

treatment, nearly all of the physicians correctly named " hemoglobin

A-1-c " as one of the most important tests for diabetic patients.

However, only 24 percent mentioned cholesterol and just five

percent named blood pressure These three tests have been identified

by the National Diabetes Education Program as the most important in

managing diabetes and reducing the risk of deadly complications.

>

> Re: Spike

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> lizzbeth97@... wrote:

> >

> > In a message dated 6/23/2001 12:22:54 PM Central Daylight Time,

> > resmith315@... writes:

> >

> > > Really?? I specifically asked my endo how high a non diabetic would go

> > > after

> > > eating a meal of candy bars, cotton candy and soda. He stated that a

non

> > > diabetics glucose would never be over 140 no matter what they

> > > ate....hmmm....

> > > ressy

> > >

> >

> > well, i guess not all docs have the same info huh?

> > lizz

>

> Not all docs know beans about diabetic treatment..

>

> WASHINGTON, June 6 /U.S. Newswire/ -- In a recent national

> survey of physicians, more than 90 percent of the country's primary

> care doctors could not correctly name the top three tests that a

> person with diabetes should have on a regular basis -- tests that

> could save their lives, experts say. More than 90 percent of

> American's with diabetes receive their medical care from primary

> care doctors, rather than diabetes specialists.

>

> --

> Dave - 1:14:48 PM

>

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Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now.

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lizzbeth97@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 06/24/2001 9:38:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

> fencible@... writes:

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> > Can't beat an HbA1c however.

> >

> >

>

> see, now thats where im confused!

> i actually had a doc tell me i was not diabetic, because all, even at

> diagnosis, my HbA1c was 5.0-5.5

> but all my fastings are high (140's) and durring the day isnt much better.

> try explaining that one!

> lizz

Not me, don't have an answer for that. I do know that two fasting

readings over 126 qualifies you for the team though, regardless of

HbA1c.

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I hear what you're saying but I just don't care.

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whimsy2@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 01-06-24 21:34:01 EDT, you write:

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> <<

> Errr.. nope.. " common sense? " >>

>

> By " common sense " I meant that it's known fact that carbs turn into glucose;

> glucose raises BGs. No argument there, is there? Vicki

Not here, not on this list anyway. I'll guarantee you though that there

are many diabetics out there in non-computer land that don't have a clue

about what carbs do.

Here, just take this pill and cut back on your sugar... Geesh.

What you alude to as common sense is really ignorance or knowledge, when

it applies to

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Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely.

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whimsy2@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 01-06-24 22:24:39 EDT, you write:

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> <<

> yes, I will respond appropriately. The post was not that " common sense

> would tell you that carbs turn into sugar " , it was that common sense

> would tell you to low carb. I don't low carb, so I don't possess common

> sense?? >>

>

> Nope, you misunderstood, Dave...I DID mean " common sense would tell you that

> carbs turn into sugar,. " not the other. Vicki

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I just wrote a post about carbs, but

clipped the word carbohydrates.. :(

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* There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who

can't.

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lizzbeth97@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 06/25/2001 8:25:03 AM Central Daylight Time,

> fencible@... writes:

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> > . I do know that two fasting

> > readings over 126 qualifies you for the team though

>

> ya....is that the same for kids and type 1's?

> lizz

It is. Fasting is a 10-14 hour fast.

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Dave - 9:46:14 AM

T2 - 8/98 Glucophage, U & H

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* There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who

can't.

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GayRghts@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 6/25/01 9:25:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fencible@...

> writes:

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> <<

> Davors Daily Aphorism:

> I hear what you're saying but I just don't care. >>

> Sometimes Dave's quotes are just so appropriate :)

> ROFLMAO

>

Trust me, they are random.. :)

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Dave - 4:04:52 PM

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God heals and the doctor takes the fee.

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In a message dated 06/26/2001 7:57:25 AM Central Daylight Time,

kimderry@... writes:

> Lizz,

> Thems is fightin words. Maybe you'all just need to take a breather then

> come back in when ya can play nice. LOL (Just trying to lighten things up

> a bit - smile, please?)

>

>

no, didnt mean to sound like fighting words, i was seriously asking

:)

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