Guest guest Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 This topic is very interesting to me as well, because my son is on what I consider high doses of zinc, but reading your messages makes me wonder if he is indeed on high dose or not. Can somebody clarify when you talk about high doses of 180mg - is this elemental zinc or not? My son takes 4 capsules of CORE per day, which is 40mg of elemental zinc. What is the conversion of elemental zinc to not elemental? And is this a high dose what he is taking? Thanks, Krassi > > > > Sender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:43:32 -0800 > > To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > > ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > > Subject: Re: Re: Supplementing with The Core when doing DMPS Injections > > > > , > > > > My son is still on maintenance dosage of KPU protocol. We have been doing the whole swing of the protocol, but do not use The Core, because I want to have the flexibility of adjusting the dosage of individual vitamins and minerals used for the protocol. > > > > I started him with 30 mg of Zinc and gradually built up to 180 mg and stayed on this dosage for 4 months. His excessive " gibberish " really got cleaned up and had very good improvements in his intonation and articulation. Finally family members and outsiders could understand what he was talking. I also detoxified him with Phospholipids Exchange, which contains EDTA, and supported his detox with chlorella tablets and Modifilan. By the end of 4 months, I started observing signs of zinc toxicity. He was pale and had bleeding lips and facial discoloration (white patches on his cheeks), and fatigue -- signs of copper deficiency induced by high zinc intake. I gradually reduced zinc to 30 mg - this is his current dosage. Once I dropped zinc dosage, all these side effects subsided. > > > > Other supplements we used for this protocol are evening primrose oil, vitamin E, moderate dose of P-5-P, NADH injection, biotin, magnesium, chromium, molybdenum, lithium orotate, iodine (from Modifilan), and silica (from Micro Plant Power). I am searching for a brand of boron to add this in. The dosage of minerals is mostly based upon his urine, blood, and hair mineral status. I give him manganese on and off and not consistently, as his levels of manganese are always good. He also takes selenium (not part of the KPU protocol though). Biotin and selenium together keep yeast from flare-up or turning into the fungal form. In my son's case, yeast flare-up is common, when metals start to mobilize. My son takes 8 mg Biotin 3X with meals. When we ran out of Biotin, his inappropriate giggling and laughing would return. > > > > I give taurine and L-carnitine with a fatty meal. Taurine helps in bile production; B6 helps in bile suspension to enhance bile flow. Together these help the liver to filter fat soluble toxins by putting them in the bile for excretion. One needs to eat good quality fats in order to detoxify fat-soluble toxins. L-carnitine (though not part of the KPU protocol) helps to carry fatty acids into the cells. > > > > The dosage of B6/P5P is very individual-depending. My son took 30 mg of P5P at bed time back then. He is now able to tolerate 50 mg. Treating for chronic Strep infection (Zithromax) seems to have increased his tolerance for B6 and P5P. Yasko believes that high dose B6 can cause more overstimulatory or OCD type behaviors. B6 is a cofactor in kynurenines to quinolinic acid conversion. Quinolinic acid is an excitotoxin and can further aggravate the nervous system. Chronic Strep and/or Lyme infected individuals might already have high levels of quinolinic acid. Taking high dose B6 is adding oil onto the fire. B6 also stimulates the transsulfuration pathway, by doing so it potentially increases the production of the byproducts of this pathway: ammonia and sulfite. We use molybdenum to detoxify sulfite, and BH4 to detoxify ammonia. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Limin > > > > > > > > > Limin, did you take your child off the kpu protocol after 4 months? If so why, when it was helping him? Did the expressive language become a permanant improvement? Did he do the other kpu nutrients or just zinc? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >>>> I do weekly injections of DMPS and i was wondering if I took my The Core minerals at the same time as i inject DMPS if the DMPS would bind to lots more minerals in my system than metals... Would I be better off waiting to take my minerals for a few hours after taking DMPS? Thoughts? Thx, Thane > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------------------ > > >>>> > > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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