Shocked?, lol & I really do have a lot of Questions

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Have ya'll ever had so many things on your mind at once that you can't figure

out where to

start first?

First of all my name is Kellie, I'm 40, divorced with two children, son 18 &

daughter 16. All

my life I've been trying to figure out what's wrong with me. As it turns out I'm

somewhere

on this Autism Spectrum and I'm sure, like so many others, wrongfully diagnosed.

Although I'm also sure a diagnosis isn't going to make anything just go away.

Only 3

months ago some relatives (that I did not grow up with) pointed out that I may

be Autistic

to some degree. They were and are right. I am curently in the process of getting

a DX.

Knowing my luck they will say I'm just plain old fashioned wierd.

I'm shocked and lol because I've been on this group almost a week and reading

everything

that has been posted. Good grief, so much fighting. I think ya'll are more

normal than you

think but I must agree that " we " are in some ways superior to NT's.

FYI.. I tend to agree with most of both sides in any debate. I don't see why we

can't take

the best of two sides and make a third opinion that really works.

One of my questions is: Has anyone else out here simply acted like themselves

been taken

advantage of in some way and then turned in to a " monster " of sorts because your

tired of

people treating you poorly for no reason? I have often heard " Now girl why you

acting like

that? You used to be so sweet and now your being a B---H. Why? "

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In a message dated 9/13/2007 8:24:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

apricot305@... writes:

Thank you for your nice answer. I'm glad that works you. I used to take meds

but dont like

the way they won't let me feel anything. No joy, no sadness or anything

in-between.

Without meds I blend into the furniture 99% of the time. My version of

monster is yelling

for a few minutes maybe 3-4 times a year.

Oh, well I was living with 6 teenagers with various emotional & behavioral

issues ... I yelled almost daily. I take only half the prescribed dose ...

just enough to give me control.

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apricot305 wrote:

> I'm shocked and lol because I've been on this group almost a week and

> reading everything that has been posted. Good grief, so much

> fighting.

There was a little bit with Griff insisting that he had been attacked,

but the rest of it is simple discussion. This is a discussion list, right?

> I think ya'll are more normal than you think

I don't understand at all how you have come to this conclusion. Do you

think that only normal people have opinions they are willing to debate?

> FYI.. I tend to agree with most of both sides in any debate. I don't

> see why we can't take the best of two sides and make a third opinion

> that really works.

If the idea is to reach the truth, the way to do that is to debate it

out and see what rises to the top. Truth is truth-- you don't find that

by randomly blending part of what one person says and part of what

another person says.

> One of my questions is: Has anyone else out here simply acted like

> themselves been taken advantage of in some way and then turned in to

> a " monster " of sorts because your tired of people treating you poorly

> for no reason?

Yeah, I have been pretty brutal with people that have attacked me in

relatively minor ways here. It's something I have to watch... I am

better in that way than I was years ago, though.

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Thank you for your nice answer. I'm glad that works you. I used to take meds but

dont like

the way they won't let me feel anything. No joy, no sadness or anything

in-between.

Without meds I blend into the furniture 99% of the time. My version of monster

is yelling

for a few minutes maybe 3-4 times a year.

-- In AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse , alisongraf@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 9/13/2007 5:28:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> watertiger9@... writes:

>

> One of my questions is: Has anyone else out here simply acted like

> > themselves been taken

> > advantage of in some way and then turned in to a " monster " of sorts

> > because your tired of

> > people treating you poorly for no reason? I have often heard " Now girl why

> > you acting like

> > that? You used to be so sweet and now your being a B---H. Why? "

>

>

> i take meds for this ... it helps me control it

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Kellie! Welcome!

Of course " we're more normal... " All that autism is, is a tendency

totally mess up social communication, including having different ways

of showing feelings, being more direct because all the subtle mumbo-

jumbo that non-autistics use was something we never or only partially

learned, gaining information from our senses (sensory integration),

etc.

It's not us that needs the realization of how normal we really are.

You're very normal too. You feel, think, reason, want, need, and all

the other things by which all people of intelligence define

themselves.

We just don't " act " normal socially. There is also a higher incidence

of " comorbid " conditions (stuff that tends to happen along with a

condition). In autism, those comorbid conditions are often confused

as part of the autism, such as OCD, anxiety, etc. It only has been a

recent development that those of us that are considered " high-

functioning " (e.g. " intelligent " ) have become recognized by medical,

psychological, and just barely starting, educational professionals.

One of the stigmas we are facing is that most people think

of " classic autism " when they hear the term, and " classic autism " can

include co-morbid conditions such as mental retardation.

Unfortunately, that means that it makes it even harder to gain

acceptance of our being " different, " and means that we are often

treated meanly. Understanding why it is happening makes it a smidge

easier to bear. A little.

Once again, welcome to the group!

>

> Have ya'll ever had so many things on your mind at once that you

can't figure out where to

> start first?

>

> First of all my name is Kellie, I'm 40, divorced with two children,

son 18 & daughter 16. All

> my life I've been trying to figure out what's wrong with me. As it

turns out I'm somewhere

> on this Autism Spectrum and I'm sure, like so many others,

wrongfully diagnosed.

> Although I'm also sure a diagnosis isn't going to make anything

just go away. Only 3

> months ago some relatives (that I did not grow up with) pointed out

that I may be Autistic

> to some degree. They were and are right. I am curently in the

process of getting a DX.

> Knowing my luck they will say I'm just plain old fashioned wierd.

>

> I'm shocked and lol because I've been on this group almost a week

and reading everything

> that has been posted. Good grief, so much fighting. I think ya'll

are more normal than you

> think but I must agree that " we " are in some ways superior to NT's.

>

> FYI.. I tend to agree with most of both sides in any debate. I

don't see why we can't take

> the best of two sides and make a third opinion that really works.

>

> One of my questions is: Has anyone else out here simply acted like

themselves been taken

> advantage of in some way and then turned in to a " monster " of sorts

because your tired of

> people treating you poorly for no reason? I have often heard " Now

girl why you acting like

> that? You used to be so sweet and now your being a B---H. Why? "

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

>

> Do you

> think that only normal people have opinions they are willing to debate?

Aspies love a good debate.

> If the idea is to reach the truth, the way to do that is to debate it

> out and see what rises to the top. Truth is truth-- you don't find that

> by randomly blending part of what one person says and part of what

> another person says.

Why not? I may agree with some of what X says and some of what Y says to

form a truth that works for me.

> Yeah, I have been pretty brutal with people that have attacked me in

> relatively minor ways here. It's something I have to watch... I am

> better in that way than I was years ago, though.

I think sometimes we tend to feel attacked by people even if there was no

such intention.

D.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I love a good debate... which is why I stayed the hell out of this last

" debate " . When it degenerates to name-calling, as this one did almost

instantly, I know better than to jump in. I cannot convince someone who is

automatically virulently opposed to anything I might have to say (or in some

cases, even my right to say it), and I won't leave myself open to pointless

abuse.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Klein " <ascaris@... <ascaris%40cox.net>>

> >

> > Do you

> > think that only normal people have opinions they are willing to debate?

>

> Aspies love a good debate.

>

> > If the idea is to reach the truth, the way to do that is to debate it

> > out and see what rises to the top. Truth is truth-- you don't find that

> > by randomly blending part of what one person says and part of what

> > another person says.

>

> Why not? I may agree with some of what X says and some of what Y says to

> form a truth that works for me.

>

> > Yeah, I have been pretty brutal with people that have attacked me in

> > relatively minor ways here. It's something I have to watch... I am

> > better in that way than I was years ago, though.

>

> I think sometimes we tend to feel attacked by people even if there was no

> such intention.

>

> D.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I happens to me all the time. I'm just happy that I'm

not on my own in this experience.

DIane Kivi

--- Delila wrote:

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> >

> > FYI.. I tend to agree with most of both sides in

> any debate. I don't see

> > why we can't take

> > the best of two sides and make a third opinion

> that really works.

>

>

> Yes, I agree.

>

>

> >

> > One of my questions is: Has anyone else out here

> simply acted like

> > themselves been taken

> > advantage of in some way and then turned in to a

> " monster " of sorts

> > because your tired of

> > people treating you poorly for no reason? I have

> often heard " Now girl why

> > you acting like

> > that? You used to be so sweet and now your being a

> B---H. Why? "

>

>

> Yes, I do turn 'mean' once in a while when I've had

> enough. Even when I try

> to explain, though, people don't understand.

>

>

> D.

>

>

>

>

>

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