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Sandy Burdsall wrote:

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> > > dm program, and it made me wonder what we all do to

> > > handle the stress in our lives?

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> >jellybeans, Ben & Jerry " from russia with buzz " and

> >spending my mom's money on junk. pat

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> What a giggle, Pat! I mostly lurk but do so enjoy your sense of humor . . .

> which is a *great* stress management tool and bs management tool as well!

> Taking oneself too seriously is definitely hazardous to your health.

> Sandy

Yep, I agree that humor is helpful, but I also feel that once we start

taking this disease seriously, and doing what we need to do to get good

numbers, then the stress is reduced also. Barb advocates the 12 step, or

higher power approach to managing when things get tough, and they do get

tough, and I am also one who is not afraid to ask for help now and then,

when things get beyond what I'm able to accomplish.

Sometimes humor is also a mask.

I don't have the stress that many do, being retired, but in some ways

it's harder because I'm always around the feed box. Luckily, I've

managed, and gotten great help with insulin in nailing my numbers, but

there is no way that I would consider having jelly beans or Ben & Jerrys

around the house.

Temptation is everywhere these days without having it on the shelves at

home.

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In a message dated 01-05-19 21:54:36 EDT, you write:

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i was giving a silly answer, but i really would like

to know how everyone handles the stressful times

without grabbing foods. and how they get motivated

to exercise. i can't seem to manaage that one

either. pat

>>

Hi, Pat, well, since you're taking care of your mother I don't know if you

can do this but for me, it works best to do my walk or exercise first thing

in the morning ...I get up, take Fosamax, wait a half hour while fixing

breakfast, read paper, eat, get dressed then do exercise immediately, before

I have a chance to think about doing anything else or get sidetracked. I

also listen to a book on tape on my walkman which is a big motivator,

esppecially if it's a good book. The only time I let myself listen to the

book on tape is when I'm exercising. Get the books on tape from the library.

They have lots and lots of 'em. Vicki

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russia with buzz "

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> >spending my mom's money on junk. pat

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> What a giggle, Pat! I mostly lurk but do so enjoy

> your sense of humor . . .

> which is a *great*

hmmmmmm. i take great pride in my maturity. LOL

but i know at the nursing home, we laughed instead of

crying. i'm thinking of ice cream now, and i just

munched on jellybellies. and i know...............

my bs is pretty good without carbs (i'm not on meds),

but even oatmeal in the morning will spike me

20-30 points (is that the right terms); and i find

that when i eat mucha anything except water, i

spike. i get depressed that i'm up and down, and i'm

still turning to my foods.

i was giving a silly answer, but i really would like

to know how everyone handles the stressful times

without grabbing foods. and how they get motivated

to exercise. i can't seem to manaage that one

either. pat

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In a message dated 5/19/01 6:54:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mrspan@...

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> i was giving a silly answer, but i really would like

> to know how everyone handles the stressful times

> without grabbing foods. and how they get motivated

> to exercise. i can't seem to manaage that one

> either. pat

>

Pat,

In the past, when times have been Really stressful (which happens a lot), I

used to feel like I was on a rollar coaster without an end in sight. I would

just do, do, do until I was exhausted. I ate whatever was available and my

health just kept getting worse without me noticing.

A HBP dx in 1994 was a small wake up call so I started to Think about

changing the way I handled my stress, schedule and general health. The DM dx

in 1999 was a HUGE knock. This got my attention. I realized that I can't

change the stressors from occurring, but I sure can change the way I deal

with them. My dr is a huge believer in stress management techniques such as

meditation, prayer, journalizing, etc over drugs.

I also talk to/with myself a lot about what I can control and what I can't.

This seems to be a major issue sometimes. I can't control anyone else's

health, actions or the world in general. But, I can stop, take some deep

breaths to feel centered, work out a plan of action and deal with the

situation. I also try not to carry the stress beyond its boundaries. I

refuse to think about issue A when I'm dealing with situation B...this keeps

me from feeling overwhelmed.

I also plan my time with ME in mind. I used to automatically put my needs

and desires last. This happens a lot to those who are in caretaking roles. I

MAKE time for my hobbies (also therapeutic) now and most importantly, don't

feel guilty enjoying my special time.

I immediately started to exercise.....this concept was foreign to me. I spent

my life avoiding exercise and was PROUD of it! I still do it 'cause I have

to. Sometimes I have to " bribe " myself by reading a new book or listening to

a book-on-tape. Like Vicki, I only get to read or listen to the book during

exercise. During the last year, I've added weights to my exercise routine and

I'm shocked to find that I almost enjoy it. I actually notice a few small

firm muscle-y growths and they look nice <g>. I have lost lots of weight

over the last 27 months and the exercise helps everything stay where it's

supposed to.

As far as the comfort foods I used to eat, there're not my friends. I don't

even have them around me any more.

Carol T

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My motivation is disabling disease. My doc said bottom line was I was in

this shape because I did not exercise. I would not exercise for weight or

longevity but I will for pain and limbs. I guess that says I'm more afraid

of pain than death. I'm motivated.

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to exercise. i can't seem to manaage that one

either. pat

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> My motivation is disabling disease. My doc said bottom line was I was in

> this shape because I did not exercise. I would not exercise for weight or

> longevity but I will for pain and limbs. I guess that says I'm more afraid

> of pain than death. I'm motivated.

**I'm with you, Bob. I'm old enough now (57) that If I don't stretch in the

morning, I can't lift, and if I don't lift, horses don't get fed! It's

amazing what motivates one :-) My bs is a strong motivator as well, and if

it's a bit higher than I like (over 100 [5.7, I think]) before dinner, I do

1/2 hour on my exercise bike. Exercise is a certain sure way to lower bs.

Cheers,

Barb

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In a message dated 5/20/01 6:07:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, maryato@...

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<< I've certainly found that the

drugs that improve insulin resistance (Glucophage, Actos, Avandia)

make people feel more energetic because they help glucose get to the

muscles where it's needed. If you want better numbers and more

energy I suggest possibly trying the meds. >>

They may give you better numbers and more energy, but when is it time to

settle for #s you have, vs getting better ones, with meds, that also stress

your pancreas and liver?

Even the good meds mentioned above do give your pancreas and liver an extra

workout.

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Excellent post, . My doctor just said essentially the same thing. In

fact, he and I are discussing the advisability of supplementing glucophage

with actos or avandia to help reduce both the glucogenesis from the liver

and improve the insulin receptivity of the cells until such time as my new

c-pap machine can alleviate the fatiguing aspects of sleep apnea and help me

regain the energy to exercise more aggressively to reduce my weight and,

probably, reduce the need for medication.

Grabner

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> There is absolutely no evidence or reason to believe, however, that

> the insulin sensitizing drugs " stress the pancreas. " <snip>. Insulin

sensitizing drugs don't do anything

> known to the pancreas. Perhaps you are thinking of the

> sulfonylureas; they do push the pancreas. These drugs don't...unless

> some studies have been done that I don't know about.

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> In fact insulin sensitizing drugs will HELP the pancreas in many ways

> by causing it to produce less insulin. People who are insulin

> resistant need more insulin for anything they eat. If an insulin

> resistant person eats 30 grams of carbohydrate in a day, he/she may

> be producing as much insulin to cover that as a normal person would

> need to cover 300 grams of carb. Improving insulin sensivity would

> slow down the requirements for insulin.

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> In fact, when people on insulin injections go on Glucophage, Actos or

> Avandia, very often they have to reduce their insulin.

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> Low carb diets also have drawbacks to health...high protein " stresses

> the KIDNEYS, " friends, and leeches calcium from the bones,

> potentially worsening osteoporosis. High fat increases cholesterol

> for some people, and high fat/high protein are highly associated with

> several types of cancer.

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> DR. BERNSTEIN, EVERYONE'S HERO ON THIS LIST, IS IN FAVOR OF INSULIN

> SENSITIZING DRUGS, BY THE WAY. DESPITE WHAT SOME FOLKS ON THIS LIST

> BELIEVE, HE DOES NOT PUSH LOW CARB DRUGS + INSULIN AS THE ONLY HELPS

> FOR TYPE II DIABETES.

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> Many people on very low carb diets do not have " enough energy to

> exercise. " In fact, athletes " carbohydrate load " for better

> performance. OUR MUSCLES NEED GLUCOSE IN ORDER TO FUNCTION.

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> My point is that THERE ARE NO EASY AND PERFECT SOLUTIONS FOR

> DIABETES.

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