interesting article

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not directly related to gallstones, but still very interesting:

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.html

[Guest guest]

At 00:50 26.08.2001 +0000, you wrote:

>not directly related to gallstones, but still very interesting:

>http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.html

This article presents a lot of truth, most people knows that.

Where there is money, there is fraud.

When I visit a farm where people are still farming the same way their fathers

did 100 years ago, (they use horses (no tractors), they work with treir hands,

they have many sudents who are helping them while learning biodinamics, farm

looks like I went back in time... ) and when I buy milk, carrots, vegetable,

meat, eggs, ... I know what I am giving my money for. I don't need any test to

tell me what I am eating, It tastes different, it smells differnt, it feels

different. Those people love their job. They love their farm. You can feel

their love in their food.

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But business is something else. You can only trust 50% to business.

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The problem with this article is, this article is biased as most other articles

on Quackwatch.

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" Organic foods are certainly not more nutritious [5]. The nutrient content of

plants is determined primarily by heredity. Mineral content may be affected by

the mineral content of the soil, but this has no significance in the overall

diet. If essential nutrients are missing from the soil, the plant will not

grow. If plants grow, that means the essential nutrients are present.

Experiments conducted for many years have found no difference in the nutrient

content of organically grown crops and those grown under standard agricultural

conditions. "

This is half true!

Safer?

" Organic " proponents suggest that their foods are safer because they have lower

levels of pesticide residues. However, the pesticide levels in our food supply

are not high. In some situations, pesticides even reduce health risks by

preventing the growth of harmful organisms, including molds that produce toxic

substances [5]. "

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Good and bad always travel together!

[Guest guest]

Agnes,

Regarding money, business and organic produce.

In general, trust business; don't trust governments. Private enterprise has incentive to communicate more truthfully; governments have loads of money and little incentive to be responsible, wise or honest with it.

Organic farming is basically "intensive farming". Of course individual plants are going to be bigger and healthier. What suffers is overall production. Land used for organic production is wasted in terms of feeding the most possible people. But, of course, farmers should have the right to use their land however they want. Also, sometimes pathogenic bacteria get on the plants from all the manure. There are many sides to this issue and a lot of the anti-organic messages are true.

My point:

Don't necessarily mistrust big business; don't necessarily trust organic. Besides, organic farming IS big business.

The traditional mistrust of money and business is likely responsible for the bloating of the government and its resulting corruption; people don't think business is honest enough to do the job, so they petition the government to do it for them - that's now being seen as a BIG mistake.

Just my opinions; hopefully not too off-topic.

-Mark

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From: Agnes

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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 6:20 AM

Subject: Re: interesting article

At 00:50 26.08.2001 +0000, you wrote:>not directly related to gallstones, but still very interesting:>http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.htmlThis article presents a lot of truth, most people knows that.Where there is money, there is fraud. When I visit a farm where people are still farming the same way their fathersdid 100 years ago, (they use horses (no tractors), they work with treir hands,they have many sudents who are helping them while learning biodinamics, farmlooks like I went back in time... ) and when I buy milk, carrots, vegetable,meat, eggs, ... I know what I am giving my money for. I don't need any test totell me what I am eating, It tastes different, it smells differnt, it feelsdifferent. Those people love their job. They love their farm. You can feeltheir love in their food.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But business is something else. You can only trust 50% to business. ----------------------------------------------------------------The problem with this article is, this article is biased as most other articleson Quackwatch. ---------------------------------------------------------------------"Organic foods are certainly not more nutritious [5]. The nutrient content ofplants is determined primarily by heredity. Mineral content may be affected bythe mineral content of the soil, but this has no significance in the overalldiet. If essential nutrients are missing from the soil, the plant will notgrow. If plants grow, that means the essential nutrients are present.Experiments conducted for many years have found no difference in the nutrientcontent of organically grown crops and those grown under standard agriculturalconditions."This is half true!Safer?"Organic" proponents suggest that their foods are safer because they have lowerlevels of pesticide residues. However, the pesticide levels in our food supplyare not high. In some situations, pesticides even reduce health risks bypreventing the growth of harmful organisms, including molds that produce toxicsubstances [5]."------------------------------------------------------------Good and bad always travel together!Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:http:///messages/gallstones-testimonialsLiver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ Web Sites for more information:http://CureZone.com/gallstones/http://www.liverdoctor.com/ http://www.sensiblehealth.com/List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe Post message: gallstones Group page: gallstones Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstonesYou are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day !