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Jana,

I am sorry you had such a bad experiece with the nursing home your

grandmother was in.

However, nursing homes do not always know when they will have an

inspection. They are notified of individual complaints so they do

know when there will be a complaint investigation but they do have

random inspections.

There are different teams of inspector in different areas and people

in the nursing home industry stay in contact with each other and know

each other well. Everybody knows someone who is now an inspector so

it is hard to have surprise inspections since someone usually will

give the nursing home a heads-up.

I agree something needs to be done, but it is the same with our

profession. Employers need to have stricter hiring policies and

screen their applincants alot more closely instead of hiring to meet

staff to patient requirements.

Eva

> ,

> One thing that I found out when I had to place my grandmother

in a

> nursing home. The nursing home knows when they will be inspected

way ahead

> of time! They never have surprise inspections (unless there are

numerous -

> and I do mean numerous - complaints) then they are still given

notice, just

> not as much. My grandmother was unable to get out of bed or chair

to go to

> bathroom and when she called, it may have been over an hour before

anyone

> responded. When you walked in there were bells going off

everywhere and no

> one was even paying attention to them (including the bed alarms).

I tried

> to get grandma a bed/chair alarm which we would purchase, but the

nursing

> home refused. After her 5th fall (the 3rd one was the one that

broke her

> hip), I demanded at 8:30 pm to talk with the DON and was told that

she was

> not available. I stated to one of the nurses that we needed to see

about

> taking safety measures that may have to include some type of

restraint

> (they'd had a very low bed on order for 2 months that never

arrived). The

> nurse stated to me that Grandma had a right to be free and

unrestrained. I

> told the nurse that she also had the right to be kept safe and that

when I

> was unable to see over my own safety as a child, that Grandma did

see that I

> was safe!

> I could go on forever! You just wouldn't believe and I thought

I'd seen

> it all on the runs I'd made to nursing homes my few hours on an

ambulance,

> and in my experience in the ER that I'd received so many horrid

nursing home

> pts that were improperly care for. I'm amazed every time! Guess

you just

> don't get used to that sort of thing. And, it seems as though law

suits

> (won by the pt or pts' family) don't even make a difference. What

can we

> do? Can we give classes? Can we pester the life out of the

regulatory

> agency? I wish I had the answer, because I cried for 2 days when

it became

> impossible for us to keep Grandma at home and we had to take her to

the

> nursing home.

>

> Take care, stay safe, and practice mercy, ya'll!!

> Jana

> FW,TX

>

> Re: [texasems-L] Nursing Home Call

> >

> >

> > " simple face mask on (placed on by the NR nurse). I saw that the

mask was

> > fogged up, I then looked at the O2 source, which the flow rate

was three

> > L/min. "

> >

> > Got you beat bubba. Ran a call at a local nursing home when I

worked in

> > Texas, walked in, patient on Non-Rebreathing Mask with meter set

at 3lpm

> > (fixed rate type). Bag flat, mask fogged, patient struggling to

breath.

> > Partner turns the flow meter up to 25...no O2 noise. Partner

TURNS ON O2

> > TANK, and patient finally starts getting O2. We toss the guy onto

our cot

> as

> > he takes his last breath, start bagging him, fly out the door.

Nursing

> home

> > RN calls my boss and complains that we a> ran up lights and siren

when

> they

> > asked that we didn't (ALL respiratory distress calls are lights

and siren

> in

> > my book...period), b> didn't wait for her to come give us a

report, c> ran

> > out lights and siren. For the record, my boss took my side.

> >

> > Why does this happen? Because the Nurses Aids have zippo training

in

> regards

> > to stuff like this. If O2 administration is in their course

curriculum,

> the

> > state needs to reexamine how they are being taught because is

sure isn't

> > adequate.

> >

> > What percentage of O2 was this guy getting? Probably something

like

> > 12-20%...guessing and hoping the holes in the mask were letting

SOME room

> > air in. The amount of carbon dioxide trapped in a simple mask

should be

> > fairly piddly, but it would add up over time in the bronchial

tree and

> such

> > (trapped air that remains, blah, blah, blah (you all know the

A & P)).

> >

> > Anyhow, enough of my rant.

> > Webb, LP

> > FLW EMS, MO

> >

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