Guest guest Posted January 31, 2000 Report Share Posted January 31, 2000 I am glad Suzanne made this post, As there are a few people who have been injured , or made symptomatic by chiros, who are literally afraid to post, after the last big controversy involving the chiro, joining the list etc. I hopefully will soon have a site finished for those who would like to see the stories of those injured by chiros, or made symptomatic chairi wise, by them. I'll post when it is finished. We should be as free to speak now as we ever were about this. Of course not directing any hatred, and nasty stuff towards any possible chiros that may be on the list. It just seems a little ironic to me , that lately we eem to be afraid to speak about chiros, when some on the list have been made symptomatic by chiros. To me that is like assuming we can't talk about trucks and truck drivers who hit us and made us symptomatic, or drunk drivers, etc., since one has joined the list etc. But that is just my view. Considered to be quite eccentric by many. One point I want to make here , was one I have made in the past, when someone was considering going to a chiro who claimed to be knowledgable in chairi. You can physically stretch the spine out, so that there would be no contact with the brainstem theoretically.(in the perfect situation) And possibly have symptoms go away. And be convinced that your chiro is really an expert in chairi. And you may have a chairi that is not progressing, and have good " luck " Remember we have encountered chiros who believed these adjustments as (carefully as they were made), were properly treating chairi people for whatever reason. When in fact they were playing with a potential " bomb " . If that turns your crank, fine. But, once your spine/vertabra settles back as it was, other than another trip to that chiro, what are you going to do? And if it alleviates symptoms, as do nerve blocks etc., while the chairi progresses, then where are you at? I would love to hear a chiro explain how they have stopped the progression of chairi. Not how they treat many people with chairi. That proves nothing. Ask a good chairi NSG, if you doubt this. And most importantly. How is this manipulation, going to stop the herniation from progressing? Answer that for me and I will consider myself much wiser. There is a reason that WACMA advises against using chiros. Dr. Frim told me once, that the only people he knows, with chairi, that see chiros, are the ones with broken necks, etc. Basically people who can not really find a surgey to repair them, I am assuming, as we did not go into it very much. But I came away with the impression that he only knows of people with chairi seeing them (chiros) that he could not YET help, possibly, at THAT time. Since this has caused so much trouble in the past, please send your chiro experiences, to me privately, if you would like them submitted to the site I am working on, for trauma, induced chairi, chiro induced chairi in particular so that new members will have something to look at before heading off to a chiro, to hopefully avoid surgery. I know there is one already on WACMA,(trauma induced) but another one won't hurt, and there will be no bias towards hurting , any individual chiro's feelings, as there is more than one member here who was made symptomatic by a chiro, as well as cars, trucks, and all of the other things that have triggered the onset of chairi symptoms. I am sure some of us understand the potential for some one highly open to any suggestions, and might try nearly anything, to avoid any surgery. I am NOT bashing chiros here either.(And please don't start that again either! That will ruin the entire purpose of my post). I have an excellent chiro, who has developed surgeries etc., but whom also will NOT touch . I merely wanted to state what I have in the past, and ask for submissions for the new site.(PRIVATELY please) Thank you all. Sincerely, Terry newton@... http://www2.fwi.com/~newton/.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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