Virus 101 according to Dr. Y

[Guest guest]

Found this posting on another forum, by a person who I think is also a member of

this list. Extremely interesting information. About half-way through it talks

about how viruses are kept under control or not.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Virus 101 according to Dr. Y (Yes, this is the usual Dr. Y that many of us are

familiar with).

There are several types of viruses. Two of the basic groups are DNA viruses and

RNA viruses. The difference between these

two groups is the form in which their genetic information is contained.

For RNA viruses, the genetic information is in the form of RNA. For DNA

based viruses it is as DNA.

Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are all DNA viruses.

Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.

Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The information that is used from

the DNA is what is made into RNA. One way to think about it, is that DNA is all

of the stock in the warehouse, and RNA is what you actually buy to use. The

analogy that I use in talks, and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA

more slowly so you can really understand it better) is my " home depot " example.

DNA is all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of home depot. RNA is the

building materials you need for a particular job, let's say to build your house,

and then the completed project that you can see, the house itself, is the

protein.

So, to get back to the main point, our genetic material (all of our

information) is stored as DNA. When we are infected with a DNA based virus like

herpes, it can multiply which is what we see as active infection or outbreaks.

Or, it can be latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our DNA in our

cells. If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace. Then imagine cutting

the string that holds the beads. Now insert some colored beads in the middle of

your pearl necklace. Now rejoin the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with

a group of red beads in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just sit

there until conditions are such that the red beads can pop back out, leaving the

pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now multiply and cause active

infection. Some of these red beads, AKA herpes that are now active can create

symptoms, some can pop back into the pearl necklace of our DNA.

When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a latent form to an active form it

needs to multiply. In order to multiply it needs to make more of its own DNA.

There are four building blocks for DNA (again explained in much more easy to

understand detail in the RNA book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of

these four building blocks for DNA. The building block provided by valtrex is

altered so that it interferes with the process for linking the beads together to

make more virus.

So, valtrex actually interferes with viral replication. It does not

suppress the virus.

In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be actively replicating. If it

is not replicating, if it is still stuck in the form of red beads within the

pearl necklace, the valtrex cannot act.

Recent work (Nature Reviews in Drug Discovery Nov 2005) in the field of HIV

research (HIV also integrates into our DNA) has shown that the most effective

way to treat this type of virus is to activate the latent virus, that virus

which is still inside the pearl necklace, as well as to interfere with its

ability to multiply.

Bottom line, using several different types of antiviral agents at the same time

that work via different mechanisms is more effective than using a single

antiviral agent.

Valtrex can only interfere with replication of viruses that use DNA

building blocks. This would include DNA based viruses, but not RNA based

viruses. Valtrex can interfere with herpes viral replication, but not so for

measles, mumps and rubella.

Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses. Measles and mumps are

retroviruses, which means that they can reverse their RNA, back to DNA, and then

they are able to get stuck inside our pearl necklaces. Then when they are ready

to multiply again, the red beads pop out of our DNA, and turn back into RNA to

make more viral RNA.

While rubella is not a retrovirus, in other words it does not have the equipment

to reverse its RNA into DNA, it is able to borrow this equipment from measles

and mumps. So in the presence of other retroviruses, rubella can act like a

retrovirus.

Once viral DNA is integrated into our DNA, so once the red beads are part of our

pearl necklace, the viral DNA can be copied when our DNA is copied. The way that

the viral DNA is silenced, so that it is not active is by methyl groups. The

body recognizes DNA that is not our own, DNA that is foreign, and it puts methyl

groups on it to keep it quiet. If we have methylation cycle mutations we cannot

do this properly.

The longer that the methylation cycle is not working properly, the more virus

that can build up. That is why the viral load is higher in older children, and

why it can take longer to clear the virus. We need to get the virus to pop out

of our DNA, and then we need to squash it once it is in an active, replicative

form. Evidence of the virus coming out of hiding, out of our pearl necklace is

seen as rashes, fever, headaches, vomiting, etc. I believe that elevated

creatinine is also a sign of virus coming out of hiding.

The role of methylation in viral silencing is another reason why I am

stressing the need for nutrigenomic testing for the methylation pathway for all

children. As you know I believe that virus helps to hold onto metals in the

body. Once you eradicate the virus, the metals will be excreted. The longer the

virus has been in the body, the more difficult to get to these metals. Once we

have seen the release of metals, we still need to think about chronic viral

infection. That is why it is important to be sure that methylation is working

properly even for those children who have recovered using other means to cause

metal excretion. As I have mentioned in the past, a number of chelating agents

also have antiviral activity.

For an example, let's think about glutathione. I do know of children who have

recovered and excreted large amounts of metals using glutathione as the major

part of their treatment. This is wonderful. However, if these children were

autistic to begin with, then imbalances in their bodies allowed the condition to

occur in the first place. Underlying factors such as methylation cycle

mutations, chronic viral and bacterial infection, heavy metal exposure all led

to creating a condition of autism. Once we have used ie glutathione to get rid

of metals (glutathione also has antiviral activity) we have eliminated some of

the risk factors. If we do not fix the underlying methylation cycle mutations,

there is nothing to prevent virus from accumulating in the body again. The

mechanism for viral silencing is still broken. The mechanism for turning on and

off DNA expression called epigenetics is still broken (the BBC article that came

out yesterday about food and methionine relied on ep igenetics to be functioning

properly to work). The ability to make some of the building blocks for DNA and

RNA that requires methylation is still broken. Just to name a few consequences

of in adequate methylation. Basically, until the methylation cycle is addressed

it is like a time bomb waiting to go off. This is why it is so important to look

at this pathway and to bypass mutations in this pathway.

[Guest guest]

XMRV is also a RNA virus, for which antiviral drug such as Valtrex will not work

as treatment.

Limin

> Found this posting on another forum, by a person who I think is also a member

of this list. Extremely interesting information. About half-way through it

talks about how viruses are kept under control or not.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

> Virus 101 according to Dr. Y (Yes, this is the usual Dr. Y that many of us are

familiar with).

>

> There are several types of viruses. Two of the basic groups are DNA viruses

and RNA viruses. The difference between these

> two groups is the form in which their genetic information is contained.

> For RNA viruses, the genetic information is in the form of RNA. For DNA

> based viruses it is as DNA.

>

> Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are all DNA viruses.

>

> Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.

>

> Our own genetic information is stored as DNA. The information that is used

from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One way to think about it, is that DNA is

all of the stock in the warehouse, and RNA is what you actually buy to use. The

analogy that I use in talks, and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA

more slowly so you can really understand it better) is my " home depot " example.

DNA is all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of home depot. RNA is the

building materials you need for a particular job, let's say to build your house,

and then the completed project that you can see, the house itself, is the

protein.

>

> So, to get back to the main point, our genetic material (all of our

> information) is stored as DNA. When we are infected with a DNA based virus

like herpes, it can multiply which is what we see as active infection or

outbreaks. Or, it can be latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our DNA

in our cells. If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace. Then imagine

cutting the string that holds the beads. Now insert some colored beads in the

middle of your pearl necklace. Now rejoin the necklace. We now have a pearl

necklace with a group of red beads in the middle of the pearls. The red beads

can just sit there until conditions are such that the red beads can pop back

out, leaving the pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now multiply

and cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA herpes that are now

active can create symptoms, some can pop back into the pearl necklace of our

DNA.

>

> When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a latent form to an active form

it needs to multiply. In order to multiply it needs to make more of its own DNA.

There are four building blocks for DNA (again explained in much more easy to

understand detail in the RNA book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of

these four building blocks for DNA. The building block provided by valtrex is

altered so that it interferes with the process for linking the beads together to

make more virus.

>

> So, valtrex actually interferes with viral replication. It does not

> suppress the virus.

>

> In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be actively replicating. If

it is not replicating, if it is still stuck in the form of red beads within the

pearl necklace, the valtrex cannot act.

>

> Recent work (Nature Reviews in Drug Discovery Nov 2005) in the field of HIV

research (HIV also integrates into our DNA) has shown that the most effective

way to treat this type of virus is to activate the latent virus, that virus

which is still inside the pearl necklace, as well as to interfere with its

ability to multiply.

>

> Bottom line, using several different types of antiviral agents at the same

time that work via different mechanisms is more effective than using a single

antiviral agent.

>

> Valtrex can only interfere with replication of viruses that use DNA

> building blocks. This would include DNA based viruses, but not RNA based

viruses. Valtrex can interfere with herpes viral replication, but not so for

measles, mumps and rubella.

>

> Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses. Measles and mumps are

retroviruses, which means that they can reverse their RNA, back to DNA, and then

they are able to get stuck inside our pearl necklaces. Then when they are ready

to multiply again, the red beads pop out of our DNA, and turn back into RNA to

make more viral RNA.

>

> While rubella is not a retrovirus, in other words it does not have the

equipment to reverse its RNA into DNA, it is able to borrow this equipment from

measles and mumps. So in the presence of other retroviruses, rubella can act

like a retrovirus.

>

> Once viral DNA is integrated into our DNA, so once the red beads are part of

our pearl necklace, the viral DNA can be copied when our DNA is copied. The way

that the viral DNA is silenced, so that it is not active is by methyl groups.

The body recognizes DNA that is not our own, DNA that is foreign, and it puts

methyl groups on it to keep it quiet. If we have methylation cycle mutations we

cannot do this properly.

>

> The longer that the methylation cycle is not working properly, the more virus

that can build up. That is why the viral load is higher in older children, and

why it can take longer to clear the virus. We need to get the virus to pop out

of our DNA, and then we need to squash it once it is in an active, replicative

form. Evidence of the virus coming out of hiding, out of our pearl necklace is

seen as rashes, fever, headaches, vomiting, etc. I believe that elevated

creatinine is also a sign of virus coming out of hiding.

>

> The role of methylation in viral silencing is another reason why I am

> stressing the need for nutrigenomic testing for the methylation pathway for

all children. As you know I believe that virus helps to hold onto metals in the

body. Once you eradicate the virus, the metals will be excreted. The longer the

virus has been in the body, the more difficult to get to these metals. Once we

have seen the release of metals, we still need to think about chronic viral

infection. That is why it is important to be sure that methylation is working

properly even for those children who have recovered using other means to cause

metal excretion. As I have mentioned in the past, a number of chelating agents

also have antiviral activity.

>

> For an example, let's think about glutathione. I do know of children who have

recovered and excreted large amounts of metals using glutathione as the major

part of their treatment. This is wonderful. However, if these children were

autistic to begin with, then imbalances in their bodies allowed the condition to

occur in the first place. Underlying factors such as methylation cycle

mutations, chronic viral and bacterial infection, heavy metal exposure all led

to creating a condition of autism. Once we have used ie glutathione to get rid

of metals (glutathione also has antiviral activity) we have eliminated some of

the risk factors. If we do not fix the underlying methylation cycle mutations,

there is nothing to prevent virus from accumulating in the body again. The

mechanism for viral silencing is still broken. The mechanism for turning on and

off DNA expression called epigenetics is still broken (the BBC article that came

out yesterday about food and methionine relied on ep igenetics to be functioning

properly to work). The ability to make some of the building blocks for DNA and

RNA that requires methylation is still broken. Just to name a few consequences

of in adequate methylation. Basically, until the methylation cycle is addressed

it is like a time bomb waiting to go off. This is why it is so important to look

at this pathway and to bypass mutations in this pathway.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My 19-year-old uses silver, per MP. I was nervous about it as well, but she takes a very low dose. What MP has her doing is upon waking she takes a small dose of ACV with water, hits the snooze on her alarm, then takes a Serrapeptase, hits the snooze again, then takes about two droppers full of silver. She's been doing this for about a year (along with other supps, of course) She does really well with this combination

To: "BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism " <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 7:43:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: Virus 101 according to Dr. Y

Our doc wants to use colloidal silver and laser treatments. He says this will kill the virus. I am nervous about the silver, and haven't heard about the laser.Rhonda Masengale

Hmmm. Every doc seems to have their own style. I have heard many say that when they stopped a med and then restarted it, it didn't work as good. The theory is that the pathogen learns to be immune to that treatment. My knowledge of viruses is limited, but I think that LDM 100 is known for putting markers on pathogens to make them noticed by the immune system. But, I think there are many complex scenarios, so other than just going by what people say works, you might have to really know a lot to put a plan together via activating then treating. I imagine each practitioner has their own theory, and probably lots of different ways work, and will vary per person. My question is, if methyl groups inhibit viruses, then isn't that the opposite of activating then treating? Love and prayers,Heidi N> > > Found this posting on

another forum, by a person who I think is also a member of this list. Extremely interesting information. About half-way through it talks about how viruses are kept under control or not.> > > > Love and prayers,> > > > Heidi N> > > > Virus 101 according to Dr. Y (Yes, this is the usual Dr. Y that many of us are familiar with). > > > > There are several types of viruses. Two of the basic groups are DNA viruses and RNA viruses. The difference between these> > two groups is the form in which their genetic information is contained.> > For RNA viruses, the genetic information is in the form of RNA. For DNA> > based viruses it is as DNA.> > > > Herpes is a DNA based virus. CMV, EBV, hepatitis are all DNA viruses.> > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses.> > > > Our own genetic

information is stored as DNA. The information that is used from the DNA is what is made into RNA. One way to think about it, is that DNA is all of the stock in the warehouse, and RNA is what you actually buy to use. The analogy that I use in talks, and in the RNA book (which describes DNA and RNA more slowly so you can really understand it better) is my "home depot" example. DNA is all the wood, nails, screws etc on the shelves of home depot. RNA is the building materials you need for a particular job, let's say to build your house, and then the completed project that you can see, the house itself, is the protein.> > > > So, to get back to the main point, our genetic material (all of our> > information) is stored as DNA. When we are infected with a DNA based virus like herpes, it can multiply which is what we see as active infection or outbreaks. Or, it can be latent. When it is latent it is sitting inside our DNA in our

cells. If you think of our DNA as one long pearl necklace. Then imagine cutting the string that holds the beads. Now insert some colored beads in the middle of your pearl necklace. Now rejoin the necklace. We now have a pearl necklace with a group of red beads in the middle of the pearls. The red beads can just sit there until conditions are such that the red beads can pop back out, leaving the pearls as they were initially. The red beads can now multiply and cause active infection. Some of these red beads, AKA herpes that are now active can create symptoms, some can pop back into the pearl necklace of our DNA.> > > > When the virus pops out of the DNA to go from a latent form to an active form it needs to multiply. In order to multiply it needs to make more of its own DNA. There are four building blocks for DNA (again explained in much more easy to understand detail in the RNA book). The way valtrex works is to replace one of these

four building blocks for DNA. The building block provided by valtrex is altered so that it interferes with the process for linking the beads together to make more virus.> > > > So, valtrex actually interferes with viral replication. It does not> > suppress the virus.> > > > In order for valtrex to work, the virus needs to be actively replicating. If it is not replicating, if it is still stuck in the form of red beads within the pearl necklace, the valtrex cannot act.> > > > Recent work (Nature Reviews in Drug Discovery Nov 2005) in the field of HIV research (HIV also integrates into our DNA) has shown that the most effective way to treat this type of virus is to activate the latent virus, that virus which is still inside the pearl necklace, as well as to interfere with its ability to multiply.> > > > Bottom line, using several different types of antiviral agents at

the same time that work via different mechanisms is more effective than using a single antiviral agent.> > > > Valtrex can only interfere with replication of viruses that use DNA> > building blocks. This would include DNA based viruses, but not RNA based viruses. Valtrex can interfere with herpes viral replication, but not so for measles, mumps and rubella.> > > > Measles, mumps and rubella are RNA based viruses. Measles and mumps are retroviruses, which means that they can reverse their RNA, back to DNA, and then they are able to get stuck inside our pearl necklaces. Then when they are ready to multiply again, the red beads pop out of our DNA, and turn back into RNA to make more viral RNA.> > > > While rubella is not a retrovirus, in other words it does not have the equipment to reverse its RNA into DNA, it is able to borrow this equipment from measles and mumps. So in the presence

of other retroviruses, rubella can act like a retrovirus.> > > > Once viral DNA is integrated into our DNA, so once the red beads are part of our pearl necklace, the viral DNA can be copied when our DNA is copied. The way that the viral DNA is silenced, so that it is not active is by methyl groups. The body recognizes DNA that is not our own, DNA that is foreign, and it puts methyl groups on it to keep it quiet. If we have methylation cycle mutations we cannot do this properly.> > > > The longer that the methylation cycle is not working properly, the more virus that can build up. That is why the viral load is higher in older children, and why it can take longer to clear the virus. We need to get the virus to pop out of our DNA, and then we need to squash it once it is in an active, replicative form. Evidence of the virus coming out of hiding, out of our pearl necklace is seen as rashes, fever, headaches, vomiting,

etc. I believe that elevated creatinine is also a sign of virus coming out of hiding.> > > > The role of methylation in viral silencing is another reason why I am> > stressing the need for nutrigenomic testing for the methylation pathway for all children. As you know I believe that virus helps to hold onto metals in the body. Once you eradicate the virus, the metals will be excreted. The longer the virus has been in the body, the more difficult to get to these metals. Once we have seen the release of metals, we still need to think about chronic viral infection. That is why it is important to be sure that methylation is working properly even for those children who have recovered using other means to cause metal excretion. As I have mentioned in the past, a number of chelating agents also have antiviral activity.> > > > For an example, let's think about glutathione. I do know of children who have recovered

and excreted large amounts of metals using glutathione as the major part of their treatment. This is wonderful. However, if these children were autistic to begin with, then imbalances in their bodies allowed the condition to occur in the first place. Underlying factors such as methylation cycle mutations, chronic viral and bacterial infection, heavy metal exposure all led to creating a condition of autism. Once we have used ie glutathione to get rid of metals (glutathione also has antiviral activity) we have eliminated some of the risk factors. If we do not fix the underlying methylation cycle mutations, there is nothing to prevent virus from accumulating in the body again. The mechanism for viral silencing is still broken. The mechanism for turning on and off DNA expression called epigenetics is still broken (the BBC article that came out yesterday about food and methionine relied on ep igenetics to be functioning properly to work). The ability to make

some of the building blocks for DNA and RNA that requires methylation is still broken. Just to name a few consequences of in adequate methylation. Basically, until the methylation cycle is addressed it is like a time bomb waiting to go off. This is why it is so important to look at this pathway and to bypass mutations in this pathway.> > > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic> > Messages in this topic (1)> > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 3> > Visit Your Group> > MARKETPLACE> > Hobbies & Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests.> > > > > > Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now.> > > > > > Get great advice about dogs and cats. Visit the Dog & Cat Answers Center.> >

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