Re: OT test is done, well part way. Questions??? OT

[Guest guest]

Hi Imogene.

Fentanyl is for pain.

Versed is a drug that relaxes you so that they can do the procedure and you

won't remember it when you wake up. You could be telling them that you were in

pain and not remember that after the procedure.

I have never had a colonoscopy and never heard of some of those colon parts...so

I can't be more help on that part.

I am praying that all the biopsies come out normal and find out that your colon

is in good shape.

>

> Hi friends,

>

> This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on Tuesday.

> I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

> micrograms IV.

> The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers I

> brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

> limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew nothing

> about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all that day,

> and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

>

> What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is what?

> Does what?

>

> I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake up

> so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

>

> How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when asleep?

> Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

> holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

>

> After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at the

> bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

> about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal orifice

> being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the splenic

> flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

>

> So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

> PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

> biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

>

> I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all normal.

> I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

>

> Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense of

> this I will greatly appreciate it.

>

> Love a lot,

> Imogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Imogene

I've been a foster mom to a girl who had been burned severely and had many, many

surgeries to release the scars which had formed. They also used versed and

fentanyl when they would take out staples and do some of the other procedures

following surgery. I was in the room with her during these procedures and the

medication they use is because it is called " conscience sedation " so you aren't

completely asleep. My little girl would often fall asleep during it, but if

there was a staple that was more difficult to remove, she would show some pain.

The versed is a drug that makes you completely forget that experience, so she

never awoke feeling anxious nor did she remember any pain. THese drugs are fast

acting and they would constantly monitor her awake status and give her more if

she needed it until it was over and then as soon as they would be done, she

would wake fairly quickly (and then nap for a long time when she got home). I

doubt that you hollered, but you may have made faces or squirmed. You blood

pressure could definitely have gone up during a painful part of the procedure.

I've never had a colonoscopy but I have had children with medical needs and the

biopsy part is just when they take a snip of tissue so it is easily done with

the scope. THose biopsies are done fairly simply and I believe the scope just

takes a tiny piece of tissue for them to study in a variety of places to be

sure. My one daughter had an upper GI and they did the same thing for her. ANy

place that things looked different, they sniped. She was fine but they took

quite a few samples. The world of medicine is always changing and CT scans and

MRIs are done for so many things now because they show so much. and I think some

of us are wired to worry about the " whys " when we hear we need those tests, but

they are done so routinely that I think doctors are immune to the scare it gives

patients when they hear they need them.

Another of my children had conscience sedation for an MRI at one of the

children's hospitals and he woke up feeling SOOOO poorly and crying and

squirming and i still had to see the surgeon. One of the nurses told me to give

him caffeine and although he wasn't 100%, that caffeine helped him to clear his

head some. I don't know if that works for everyone, but I keep some iced tea

handy when my medically fragile kids need to go in for these procedures and

tests. Soda usually makes them throw up, so tea is easier to keep down.

Keep us posted!

Kathy

OT test is done, well part way. Questions??? OT

Hi friends,

This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on Tuesday.

I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

micrograms IV.

The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers I

brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew nothing

about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all that day,

and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is what?

Does what?

I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake up

so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when asleep?

Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at the

bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal orifice

being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the splenic

flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all normal.

I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense of

this I will greatly appreciate it.

Love a lot,

Imogene

[Guest guest]

Dear Imogene,

I am glad the procdedure is over for you. Now the wait for results.

You could have shown pain by grimacing, moaning, moving, and yes, blood pressure

spike.

The doctor doing the scoping likely saw polyps or other suspicious looking

tissue which would each need a biopsy. It sounds as if they were as thorough as

they could be and as if you were in good hands. Please keep us posted.

Hugs and love.

PS The sockeye run here is the best in about 100 years. Go figure after last

year's poor count.

>

> Hi friends,

>

> This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on Tuesday.

> I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

> micrograms IV.

> The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers I

> brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

> limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew nothing

> about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all that day,

> and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

>

> What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is what?

> Does what?

>

> I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake up

> so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

>

> How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when asleep?

> Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

> holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

>

> After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at the

> bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

> about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal orifice

> being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the splenic

> flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

>

> So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

> PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

> biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

>

> I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all normal.

> I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

>

> Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense of

> this I will greatly appreciate it.

>

> Love a lot,

> Imogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joan, You have really been through it! Bless your heart. I do hope that

doesn't happen again. When Don had high fever the nurses took his blanket away,

and put cooling things around him. That was long before he got really sick with

LBD.

Thank you for the information. I didn't know I could tell them I was in pain. I

sure didn't remember it. They gave me both shots of medicine before the

procedure began. Wonder why I still had pain? Oh well, I'll ask the Doctor when

I see her next week.

But, I didn't know the action of the medicines,and sure do appreciate your

telling me Joan.

Stay well girl. and love thos darling dogs.

Love a lot,

Imogene

> >

> > Hi friends,

> >

> > This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on Tuesday.

> > I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

> > micrograms IV.

> > The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers I

> > brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

> > limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew

nothing

> > about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all that

day,

> > and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

> >

> > What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is what?

> > Does what?

> >

> > I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake up

> > so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

> >

> > How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when asleep?

> > Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

> > holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

> >

> > After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at the

> > bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

> > about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal orifice

> > being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the splenic

> > flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

> >

> > So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

> > PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

> > biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

> >

> > I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all normal.

> > I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

> >

> > Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense of

> > this I will greatly appreciate it.

> >

> > Love a lot,

> > Imogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kathy, Thank you, dear, so very much for informing me further of the

medications. The nurse had put out a bunch of needles, but I only saw her use

two of them. She may have used all of them. I don't know.

I do tend to wonder why this and why that until I get answers. I knew how the

biopsies were done as I had them before when I had a Bronchoscopy. That test was

not fun either.

Thanks a lot, with Love,

Imogene

>

>

> Imogene

>

> I've been a foster mom to a girl who had been burned severely and had many,

many surgeries to release the scars which had formed. They also used versed and

fentanyl when they would take out staples and do some of the other procedures

following surgery. I was in the room with her during these procedures and the

medication they use is because it is called " conscience sedation " so you aren't

completely asleep. My little girl would often fall asleep during it, but if

there was a staple that was more difficult to remove, she would show some pain.

The versed is a drug that makes you completely forget that experience, so she

never awoke feeling anxious nor did she remember any pain. THese drugs are fast

acting and they would constantly monitor her awake status and give her more if

she needed it until it was over and then as soon as they would be done, she

would wake fairly quickly (and then nap for a long time when she got home). I

doubt that you hollered, but you may have made faces or squirmed. You blood

pressure could definitely have gone up during a painful part of the procedure.

I've never had a colonoscopy but I have had children with medical needs and the

biopsy part is just when they take a snip of tissue so it is easily done with

the scope. THose biopsies are done fairly simply and I believe the scope just

takes a tiny piece of tissue for them to study in a variety of places to be

sure. My one daughter had an upper GI and they did the same thing for her. ANy

place that things looked different, they sniped. She was fine but they took

quite a few samples. The world of medicine is always changing and CT scans and

MRIs are done for so many things now because they show so much. and I think some

of us are wired to worry about the " whys " when we hear we need those tests, but

they are done so routinely that I think doctors are immune to the scare it gives

patients when they hear they need them.

>

> Another of my children had conscience sedation for an MRI at one of the

children's hospitals and he woke up feeling SOOOO poorly and crying and

squirming and i still had to see the surgeon. One of the nurses told me to give

him caffeine and although he wasn't 100%, that caffeine helped him to clear his

head some. I don't know if that works for everyone, but I keep some iced tea

handy when my medically fragile kids need to go in for these procedures and

tests. Soda usually makes them throw up, so tea is easier to keep down.

>

> Keep us posted!

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

> OT test is done, well part way. Questions??? OT

>

>

>

>

> Hi friends,

>

> This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on Tuesday.

> I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

> micrograms IV.

> The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers I

> brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

> limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew nothing

> about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all that day,

> and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

>

> What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is what?

> Does what?

>

> I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake up

> so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

>

> How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when asleep?

> Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

> holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

>

> After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at the

> bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

> about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal orifice

> being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the splenic

> flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

>

> So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

> PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

> biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

>

> I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all normal.

> I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

>

> Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense of

> this I will greatly appreciate it.

>

> Love a lot,

> Imogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, you are always there to help and encourage. Thank you so very much. The

doctors don't have to pay for the test, so to save their necks they order

anything that MIGHT be needed. I tend to believe that is the case with the CT

scan.

Good to hear about the Sockeye running this year. Did you know I watch

" Deadliest Catch " when it is on Discovery? Some people think I'm nuts. Women

don't care about such things! But, they never fished six years with their father

using nets, like I did.

Thank you for being here for me, and all of us.

Love a lot,

Imogene

> >

> > Hi friends,

> >

> > This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on Tuesday.

> > I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

> > micrograms IV.

> > The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers I

> > brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

> > limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew

nothing

> > about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all that

day,

> > and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

> >

> > What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is what?

> > Does what?

> >

> > I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake up

> > so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

> >

> > How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when asleep?

> > Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

> > holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

> >

> > After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at the

> > bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

> > about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal orifice

> > being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the splenic

> > flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

> >

> > So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

> > PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

> > biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

> >

> > I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all normal.

> > I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

> >

> > Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense of

> > this I will greatly appreciate it.

> >

> > Love a lot,

> > Imogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dearest Imogene,

It is good to see you posting again. I hope all your medical issues will be

resolved. Could the diarrhea be stress related?

Unfortunately, the doctors' hands are tied - they have to give you certain

tests, or else they look 'negligent.' I hear stories about that from my

daughter. This past month she's been in the ER and the " urgent care " unit.

Hope you get all your health issues straightened out, and can enjoy life! You

certainly deserve to!

With love,

Helene from NY

> > >

> > > Hi friends,

> > >

> > > This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on

Tuesday.

> > > I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

> > > micrograms IV.

> > > The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers I

> > > brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

> > > limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew

nothing

> > > about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all that

day,

> > > and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

> > >

> > > What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is what?

> > > Does what?

> > >

> > > I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake

up

> > > so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

> > >

> > > How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when asleep?

> > > Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

> > > holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

> > >

> > > After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at

the

> > > bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

> > > about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal

orifice

> > > being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the

splenic

> > > flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

> > >

> > > So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

> > > PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

> > > biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

> > >

> > > I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all normal.

> > > I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

> > >

> > > Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense of

> > > this I will greatly appreciate it.

> > >

> > > Love a lot,

> > > Imogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi dear friend Helene, Thank you so much for being here for all of us.

Your encouragement is excepted gladly.

I know the doctors have to give the test, and I would rather pay for them than

to take chances. I have had a lot of questions, but the explanations by several

on here has helpd me understand a lot.

I have a friend that just wrote to me about having very large lymph nodes from

her neck going down under her arm and twisting around to her back side. She had

a cancer removed several years ago, and now it looks as if it is back full

blown. I will know more later.

It seems a lot of people need prayers these days.

LBD was a monster desease to live through with my precious Don, but

I expected his death, and even though I loved him dearly I have not mourned

overly, nor been keyed up very much since then. Having nine family members die

already has gotten me used to knowing that at this time we are going to die.

Feeling his loss is something that won't last. I resigned myself to the fact

that I was loosing him, and have let go for the most part. But, every now and

then sonething will flash through my mind and tug at my heart.

Today, I bought a 14 cubit ft upright freezer. It's just right for one person to

get through winter months, and not have to go out shopping in bad weather. I

just hope it doesn't use up too much Electricity.

Love you dear one,

Imogene

> > > >

> > > > Hi friends,

> > > >

> > > > This is not about LBD, but is about the Colonoscopy test I had on

Tuesday.

> > > > I was put to sleep this time with Versed 5 mg IV and Fentanyl 100

> > > > micrograms IV.

> > > > The test was incomplete. There were several biopsies taken. The papers

I

> > > > brought home said, " The endoscope was extended to the splenic flexure

> > > > limited by extreme patient discomfort and a redundant colon. " I knew

nothing

> > > > about the pain. The nurse told me I had severe pain. I had pain all

that day,

> > > > and the next day. Also I am still very tired.

> > > >

> > > > What is Fentanyl? I know Versed is alright, but the two together is

what?

> > > > Does what?

> > > >

> > > > I didn't remain asleep long. If I slept through the pain why did I wake

up

> > > > so soon? Did they give me something for that? The paper doesn't say.

> > > >

> > > > How did they know I was in pain? Doesn't a person lie still when

asleep?

> > > > Wasn't that what one of the medicines was for? To keep me still? Did I

> > > > holler? I don't know. Maybe my blood pressure sky rocketed.

> > > >

> > > > After saying the test was limited and that I needed a CT scan, then at

the

> > > > bottom of the page it talks as if I had the complete test. They wrote

> > > > about the transverse colon, cecum, ileocecal valve and appendiceal

orifice

> > > > being identified. I will have to find out how they only went to the

splenic

> > > > flexure, but could identify all the other parts?

> > > >

> > > > So far all of it seems normal. But why several biopsies, and ordered my

> > > > PCP to have a CT scan done, and then send him the results of it? I know

> > > > biopsies were done because I passed blood afterwards.

> > > >

> > > > I know I am doing a lot of guessing here, when he said it was all

normal.

> > > > I don't understand the contradictory parts of this whole thing, though.

> > > >

> > > > Take care all you wonderful people, and if you can help me make sense

of

> > > > this I will greatly appreciate it.

> > > >

> > > > Love a lot,

> > > > Imogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >