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--- In gallstones@y..., " Roseanna Conlon " <roastzanna@h...>

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> On Thursday night I plan to do 6oz cold pressed organic olive oil

with 6 oz

> organic fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, followed by more Colosan

the next

> day.

If you are doing it the first time,

better take 4oz or less cold pressed organic olive oil with 4 oz

organic fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, or it may be too much oil

for you.

It depends of your size. If you have big stomach, then next time you

can take 6oz.

Agnes

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In a message dated 5/22/01 1:30:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, roastzanna@... writes:

Does anyone have any helpful hints for a first-timer?

Yes. Don't chug the oil down in one big gulp. If there's too much dumped into your stomach at one time, you might have these unpleasant oily regurgitations all night long.

If you find that you're having waves of acid-y reflux type symptoms and can't sleep, go with it for as long as you can, then take some baking soda to neutralize the acid feeling.

My first time I got these horrendous waves of acid reflux up my esophagus and it scared me. I kept wondering if the orthophosphoric acid was burning a hole in my stomach!! Later I found out it was due to the liver dumping a lot of bile. I've taken the same amount of ortho after that and didn't get those symptoms. Finally I used baking soda and I was OK.

J.

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> Thanks! What happens if I take too much oil? I'm 5'4 " and about

145 pounds.

It may be too hard to digest, and you may feel to threw up.

First time is the first time, test your stomach with moderate dose.

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I immediately had improvement in bladder control. After 2 - 3 weeks, my sleep was much improved. My energy level is better. I do bee venom therapy too, and it had been helping some prior to LDN. I haven't walked in 5 years. I did Avonex for 2 years with NO success. You are fortunate to have found out about this now.

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In a message dated 7/20/2004 8:00:02 PM Central Standard Time, nanfeole@... writes:

would like to hear some first hand accounts from people who have had a positive experience with this treatment. My daughter has secondary progressive MS. She has tried four different drug therapies over the last seven years.

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I've had relapsing-remitting MS for almost three years. I was skeptical of

the LDN but I started taking it about three months ago and am wonderfully

amazed by it. Almost overnight it cleared up every problem I was having -

fatigue, quadricep spasms, Lhermitte's sign (tingling down the back when

lowering head, urinary difficulty, etc. I'm a pharmacist and well aware of

the placebo response and this was not a placebo response. The only side

effect I had was difficulty sleeping the first week that I took it; but now

I sleep like a baby. I don't know if this therapy will work for everyone as

it worked for me, but I highly recommend trying it because it is extremely

safe.

If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them. Ben

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>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] First timer

>Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:38:02 -0000

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>I would like to hear some first hand accounts from people who have

>had a positive experience with this treatment. My daughter has

>secondary progressive MS. She has tried four different drug

>therapies over the last seven years.

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Hi There - feel free to visit my blog at http//totoro.inmybook.net/

and scroll through the archives. Best to start at the beginning, I

think it is March when I started the blog. There are several posts

about my on-going relationship with LDN for MS. I am very satisfied

with the drug, but like most did have an adjustment period which I

tried to keep very specific record of for anyone interested.

Best of luck to you and your daughter - Cinders

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Ben,

What dose are you on?

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From: " " <evansbenjamin@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:43 AM

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] First timer

> I've had relapsing-remitting MS for almost three years. I was skeptical

of

> the LDN but I started taking it about three months ago and am wonderfully

> amazed by it. Almost overnight it cleared up every problem I was having -

> fatigue, quadricep spasms, Lhermitte's sign (tingling down the back when

> lowering head, urinary difficulty, etc. I'm a pharmacist and well aware

of

> the placebo response and this was not a placebo response. The only side

> effect I had was difficulty sleeping the first week that I took it; but

now

> I sleep like a baby. I don't know if this therapy will work for everyone

as

> it worked for me, but I highly recommend trying it because it is extremely

> safe.

>

> If you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them. Ben

>

>

> >From: " bufecky " <nanfeole@...>

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> >Subject: [low dose naltrexone] First timer

> >Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:38:02 -0000

> >

> >I would like to hear some first hand accounts from people who have

> >had a positive experience with this treatment. My daughter has

> >secondary progressive MS. She has tried four different drug

> >therapies over the last seven years.

> >

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This was my very first serious attempt to take control of my M.S. symptoms, the Docs were still giving me the old "we can do nothing for your type" senario. Positive feedback and experiences talked me into this and that is what we are all about.There have been a few not so positive but then nothing says that this is a cure!

LDN will almost always stop the progression and usually give back what has been lost in the last three months.

In my case I was "this" close to wearing Attends every day or staying at the bathroom door, the latter was not an option. After three days on 4.5 mgs. I only went to the can twice! That was such a surprise that I started to drink water , now I am drinking about two to three liters of water daily and haven't had an accident since.Before that I didn't dare drink water,now how good is that for you?

The burning feel in my left side which was unbearable left in four days(there is a name for that but it escapes me now) the L'Hermettes sign (that tingling when you bend your head forward) left me on about the fifth day.

I used to have a hole in my feild of vision in my right eye (and that was my "good" eye too, it left one day around day eight and thank goodness.

These have all left me for good now,unless I forget to take a single pill once a night, in which case I am parked out in front of the washroom again the next day..

Also changing from 3.0 mgs to 4.5 will do that to me or taking my pill before or after my window of oportunity,10:00 PM to 11:00 PM.

This drug is really very easy to accept as the dreams that most of us encounter are sometimes hilarious and other than a few sleepless nights (they seemed like that anyway) nothing untoward happens with it.

I wish I could have found this before I became SPMS in 1997.or 98 I know I would be working yet.

Good luck with getting your prescription.

Reg.

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I would like to hear some first hand accounts from people who have had a positive experience with this treatment. My daughter has secondary progressive MS. She has tried four different drug therapies over the last seven years.

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Kim,

I'm so sorry to hear that your son was diagnosed so early with MS. However,

it warms my heart to hear such a success story using LDN. So glad he is

back to being a kid again! Best of luck to you and your family in the

future!

(spms)

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From: petessweetheart [mailto:petessweetheart@...]

Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:54 AM

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Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: First timer

My 16 year old son has only been using LDN for a month, and I'm sure there

are more wonderful people here who can give you more info than I can, but

here goes, anyway. I have the time on my hands so you get my 2 cents worth!

My son was diagnosed 3 years ago, with RRMS. He has had some really severe

exacerbations very close together in the past, so there has been some

question as to whether he is RRMS or moving into a progressive mode. He

used Avonex for one year with very little problems, but had one of the worse

exacerbations he has had while on it. He was immediately switched to Rebif

and used it for almost a year with disatrous result - severe depression,

necrosis, very painful injections, etc...

I started researching LDN 6 months prior to starting him on it.

This place has been a wealth of information for me, and you will meet some

of the most delightful and informative people you could ever possibly meet

here.

His neuro and primary care doc were unwilling to prescribe LDN, so we got it

from Dr. via phone consultation. I must admit that the phone consult

was more in depth than most face to face appointments we have had with the

many neuros we have seen over the past 3 years. Dr. started him out

at 3 mg. and he has done really well at this dose. We will do our 2 month

consult in August and see what happens from there.

To be more specific...My son didn't have that many problems, other than some

residual tremor in his hands from the first attack, severe heat intolerance,

and the severe depression brought on by the interferons. Since starting the

LDN, he says he is sleeping better than he ever has in his life. His heat

intolerance has disappeared completely, he is playing golf, skiing and

working in tobacco - able to do all the normal things a 16 year old boy

should be able to do for the first time in 3 years. His energy level is

through the roof, and he has an overall sense of well being. The depression

is completely gone, and he says that he feels like his old self again for

the first time since before this all began. We couldn't be more pleased, as

you can imagine.

I hope this helps in some way! I'm sure there are others who will jump in

and help you as well! Take care!

Kim

--- In low dose naltrexone , " bufecky " <nanfeole@c...>

wrote:

> I would like to hear some first hand accounts from people who have had

> a positive experience with this treatment. My daughter has secondary

> progressive MS. She has tried four different drug therapies over the

> last seven years.

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