Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 oops, that should have been hematocrit. > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and Hemocrit levels are high? What are these things anyway? I am doing an internet search now but thought you guys might be able to help. > > in AZ > Mom to Jenna(8), (7), (5), (4), Junie(2), Jillian (8 months) and (3) & Duane(2) during regular business hours. > http://members.cox.net/bettendorf > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arizona_Thyroid_Groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 nevermind, I found it points to anemia. right? > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and Hemocrit levels are high? What are these things anyway? I am doing an internet search now but thought you guys might be able to help. > > in AZ > Mom to Jenna(8), (7), (5), (4), Junie(2), Jillian (8 months) and (3) & Duane(2) during regular business hours. > http://members.cox.net/bettendorf > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arizona_Thyroid_Groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 this was fascinating!!! http://www.anisman.com/ecg/index.asp?mainpage=anemia.htm > > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and > Hemocrit levels are high? > > It means you are a RED HOT MAMA!! grin. > > Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and Hemocrit levels are high? It means you are a RED HOT MAMA!! grin. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 > nevermind, I found it points to anemia. right? I thought it was the opposite. Folks who are iron deficient will end up with a lower than optimal concentration of hemoglobin. The hemocrit measurement reveals the percentage of red blood cells in your total blood volume. Hemoglobin is the pigment that gives red blood cells their color, and the key chemical needed to transport oxygen. High levels can also point to over-exposure to mercury and lead. Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Forgot to mention that dehydration can also cause high levels. Do you drink plenty of water?? Janie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Friend of mine.......she has raised cholesterol as well. She says she is usually really good about drinking water but can not remember the day she had the labs run. > Forgot to mention that dehydration can also cause high levels. Do > you drink plenty of water?? > > Janie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 RBC 5.19 (3.8-5.1) Hemoglobin 16.2 (11.5-15) Hematocrit 47.3 (34-44) Total chol 262 (100-199) HDL cholesterol 64 (40-59) LDL cholesterol is 173 (0-99) What do you think? > define " high " > > > > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and Hemocrit > levels are high? What are these things anyway? I am doing an internet > search now but thought you guys might be able to help. > > > > in AZ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 define " high " > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and Hemocrit levels are high? What are these things anyway? I am doing an internet search now but thought you guys might be able to help. > > in AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Wow , your cholesterol (LDL and Total) don't look so hot. Did your doc say anything about this stuff? Zina > RBC 5.19 (3.8-5.1) > Hemoglobin 16.2 (11.5-15) > Hematocrit 47.3 (34-44) > > Total chol 262 (100-199) > HDL cholesterol 64 (40-59) > LDL cholesterol is 173 (0-99) > > What do you think? > > > > > > define " high " > > > > > > > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and Hemocrit > > levels are high? What are these things anyway? I am doing an internet > > search now but thought you guys might be able to help. > > > > > > in AZ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 While a your RBC is little high not super high. If I remember it looks like 's (who is moving so thats why she hasn't been online...she doesn't have her computer set up at her house yet). The question is why? We can assume that you are absorbing your food quite well! But a few different things can make it high..iron and B12 for two...you could have too much of either. Theres an autoimmune disease that can cause it called Syndrome, but that is probably not the case, as you usually have to have lupus or SS or somehting to get that...However, with it being only slightly high, I don't think I would worry too much. > RBC 5.19 (3.8-5.1) > Hemoglobin 16.2 (11.5-15) > Hematocrit 47.3 (34-44) > > Total chol 262 (100-199) > HDL cholesterol 64 (40-59) > LDL cholesterol is 173 (0-99) > I think you need more armour if you can take it. Seriously. Does high chol run in the family? Anybody on mevacor or anything? For you being thin like me, this is high...even higher than mine (though not much because my HDL was rock bottom and my LDL was almost as high, so while my toatl cholesterol was lower then yours, my ratio was worse...not a good thing either way). I know with a gaggle of children around for me to tell you exercise would help is a joke. And telling you not to eat fats is a joke too, because like me you'd waste away to nothing!!! If you can add any exercise to your day that WOULD help (besides cooking, cleaning, carrying babies, chasing children etc) like if you got a chance to ride a stationary bike or take the kids for walks or something (NOT when it is 110 degrees out there...has it cooled off since the storms? I didn't ask when I talked to him this week). Armour should be naturally lowering your cholesterol. A cholesterol like that does put you in risk group even though you are thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 This is a friend of mine. She went to the doc with what I consider screaming thyroid symptoms. She asked to have her thyroid checked and a list of other things I gave her. He said " No " . She said but I really want these things checked. He said " It is not necessary. We will run these tests first and see what comes up. " So she comes back slightly anemic (he would not run the ferritin) based on the hemoglobin and hematocrit and has high cholesterol. He refused to even run the TSH(forget the FT3). After a week of chasing labs my friend got her labs faxed over to my fax machine and they wrote on the lab " Please come in to pick up your Rx for lipitor " WHAT??? The doc even told her that high cholesterol points to thyroid problems. Then he signs off on her labs and Rx lipitor. Makes a note next to the elevated RBC and hemo but does nothing more about it (which also point to hypo from what I have read. Hypo compromises the red blood cells and causes them to " die " ?? which causes anemia). I am livid. She has another appt today for a vein in her leg that is swelling and causing pain. I offered to go wiht her to discuss the labs and she liked the idea at first but then thought it would look like she can't handle herself and has to bring her bully friend to stick up for her. I will call her today before her appt and ask her who cares what it looks like!! If that is what it takes to bring your health to where it should be!! Tell you what, I have a few things to say to that doc!! in AZ > Wow , your cholesterol (LDL and Total) don't look so hot. Did > your doc say anything about this stuff? > > Zina > > RBC 5.19 (3.8-5.1) > > Hemoglobin 16.2 (11.5-15) > > Hematocrit 47.3 (34-44) > > > > Total chol 262 (100-199) > > HDL cholesterol 64 (40-59) > > LDL cholesterol is 173 (0-99) > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > define " high " > > > > > > > > > > What does it mean if your Red Blood Cell count, Hemoglobin and > Hemocrit > > > levels are high? What are these things anyway? I am doing an > internet > > > search now but thought you guys might be able to help. > > > > > > > > in AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 ROFL......sorry nancy. I should have been more clear. This is my friends results! I didn't realize you would pull my history into it. I beleive my cholesterol is fine! At least I was told it is " normal " :-o This is my friend Dori who has a history of high cholesterol and anemia. She is slightly overweight. I read that her results pointed to anemia. What am I missing here? And yes, it was 109 on Thursday. I try not to check the temps outside. Once it is past 100 it doesn't matter anyway. in AZ > While a your RBC is little high not super high. If I remember it looks like > 's (who is moving so thats why she hasn't been online...she doesn't > have her computer set up at her house yet). The question is why? We can > assume that you are absorbing your food quite well! But a few different > things can make it high..iron and B12 for two...you could have too much of > either. Theres an autoimmune disease that can cause it called > Syndrome, but that is probably not the case, as you usually have to have > lupus or SS or somehting to get that...However, with it being only slightly > high, I don't think I would worry too much. > > > RBC 5.19 (3.8-5.1) > > Hemoglobin 16.2 (11.5-15) > > Hematocrit 47.3 (34-44) > > > > Total chol 262 (100-199) > > HDL cholesterol 64 (40-59) > > LDL cholesterol is 173 (0-99) > > > I think you need more armour if you can take it. Seriously. Does high chol > run in the family? Anybody on mevacor or anything? For you being thin like > me, this is high...even higher than mine (though not much because my HDL was > rock bottom and my LDL was almost as high, so while my toatl cholesterol was > lower then yours, my ratio was worse...not a good thing either way). I know > with a gaggle of children around for me to tell you exercise would help is a > joke. And telling you not to eat fats is a joke too, because like me you'd > waste away to nothing!!! If you can add any exercise to your day that WOULD > help (besides cooking, cleaning, carrying babies, chasing children etc) like > if you got a chance to ride a stationary bike or take the kids for walks or > something (NOT when it is 110 degrees out there...has it cooled off since > the storms? I didn't ask when I talked to him this week). Armour > should be naturally lowering your cholesterol. A cholesterol like that does > put you in risk group even though you are thin. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Gotcha , thanks for setting me straight! So what is the next step? Anything else she should be tested for besides the long list I have from this list already? I'm thinking I have to go with her to her appt today. in AZ > The red blood cells are high not low...that is not anemia. But this can > happen with hypo too. But don't ruin your credibility with this doc by > calling her anemic because she's not. If it was LOW she would be anemic. > > However, the cholesterol points towards hypo. and the swollen vein points to > autoimmune in some cases. > > Hypo CAN make you anemic, but it can also change the way you process iron > and other blood building vitamins, and sometimes can cause the opposite of > anemia as well...which is why I always tell someone to have the iron checked > BEFOR taking a vitamin with iron. This is NOT anemia, but it can point > towards hypothyroid anyway. If this doc cannot be convinced to at LEAST run > a TSH she needs to run away fast and find another doc! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 The red blood cells are high not low...that is not anemia. But this can happen with hypo too. But don't ruin your credibility with this doc by calling her anemic because she's not. If it was LOW she would be anemic. However, the cholesterol points towards hypo. and the swollen vein points to autoimmune in some cases. Hypo CAN make you anemic, but it can also change the way you process iron and other blood building vitamins, and sometimes can cause the opposite of anemia as well...which is why I always tell someone to have the iron checked BEFOR taking a vitamin with iron. This is NOT anemia, but it can point towards hypothyroid anyway. If this doc cannot be convinced to at LEAST run a TSH she needs to run away fast and find another doc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 , please tell your friend to RUN RUN as fast as her hypo legs will carry her AWAY from this idiot. It's time to find another doc who has some history with good thyroid treatment!!!!!!! She is WASTING HER MONEY with this jerk. Janie > This is a friend of mine. She went to the doc with what I consider > screaming thyroid symptoms. She asked to have her thyroid checked >and a list of other things I gave her. He said " No " . She said but >I really want these things checked. He said " It is not necessary. >We will run these tests first and see what comes up. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 What other symptoms aside from high blood pressure did she have? Re: Ok, smarties , please tell your friend to RUN RUN as fast as her hypo legs will carry her AWAY from this idiot. It's time to find another doc who has some history with good thyroid treatment!!!!!!! She is WASTING HER MONEY with this jerk. Janie > This is a friend of mine. She went to the doc with what I consider > screaming thyroid symptoms. She asked to have her thyroid checked >and a list of other things I gave her. He said " No " . She said but >I really want these things checked. He said " It is not necessary. >We will run these tests first and see what comes up. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 She may have one of the autoimmune anemias(like hemolytic-which I have), In which the blood counts may be normal, but the size and shape of the RBC is different(large) which indicates that the RBC are new, and that leads to the reason being that they are being destroyed prematurely.These are some links on the anemia that Bee had compiled that I find very helpful Feisty Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine - Hemolytic Anemia Provides an overview of this disorder in which the red blood cells are destroyed prematurely. http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2601/0006/2601000648/p1/article.jhtml Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine - Haptoglobin Test Find out how this test is used to evaluate a person for hemolytic anemia. http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2601/0006/2601000620/p1/article.jhtml 1Up Health - Hemoglobin (Serum or Blood) Test Information Measurement of the free hemoglobin in the blood is used to detect and monitor hemolytic anemias or breakdown of red blood cells. Read its description and expectations. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/hemoglobin_serum_info.html 1Up Health - Hemolytic Anemia Information Covers the types, signs, tests, symptoms, complications, causes, risks, expectations, and treatment of this condition marked by deficient red blood cells. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/hemolytic_anemia_info.html 1Up Health - Idiopathic Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia Information Details the expectations, tests, signs, complications, treatment, and symptoms of this immune system abnormality that causes red blood cells destruction prematurely. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/idiopathic_autoimmune_hemolytic_anemia_info.html 1Up Health - Immune Hemolytic Anemia Information Know what happens when the immune system destroys the red blood cells. Know its symptoms, treatment, tests, signs, prevention, prognosis, causes, and complications. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/immune_hemolytic_anemia_info.html 1Up Health - Nonimmune Hemolytic Anemia (Chemical or Physical) Learn about the possible chemical or physical causes of hemolytic anemia or hemolysis of red blood cells. Read about various features. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/nonimmune_hemolytic_anemia_caused_by_chemical_or\ _physical_agents_info.html 1Up Health - Drug-Induced Immune Hemolytic Anemia Information Interaction of certain drugs with the immune system causes this acquired form of hemolytic anemia. Read its symptoms, treatment, tests, prevention, and complications. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/drug_induced_immune_hemolytic_anemia_info.html 1Up Health - HELLP Syndrome Information Hemolytic anemia, elevated liver enzymes, and low platelet count marks this condition affecting pregnant women. Know its causes, prevention, signs, tests, and treatment. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/hellp_syndrome_info.html 1Up Health - Pyruvate Kinase Deficiency Information Understand this inherited deficiency of the enzyme pyruvate kinase that is a common cause of hemolytic anemia. Read about its causes, symptoms, diagnosis, and treatment. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/pyruvate_kinase_deficiency_info.html 1Up Health - Hemoglobinuria (Urine Hemoglobin) Test Information Explains this test that identifies the presence of hemoglobin in the urine and is used for the diagnosis of hemolytic anemia. Know how to evaluate the results. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/hemoglobinuria_info.html 1Up Health - Glucose-6-Phosphate Dehydrogenase (G6PD) Deficiency Elaborates on the prevention, tests, symptoms, treatment, risks, causes, complications, signs, and expectations of hemolytic anemia due to G-6-PD deficiency. http://www.1uphealth.com/health/glucose_6_phosphate_dehydrogenase_deficiency_inf\ o.html NORD - Warm Antibody Hemolytic Anemia Get disease information on this form of hemolytic anemia that causes bone-marrow depletion. From the National Organization of Rare Disorders. http://www.rarediseases.org/search/rdbdetail_abstract.html?disname=Anemia%2C%20H\ emolytic%2C%20Warm%20Antibody NORD - Cold Antibody Hemolytic Anemia National Organization for Rare Disorders presents an abstract on this condition, characterized by the premature destruction of red blood cells. http://www.rarediseases.org/search/rdbdetail_abstract.html?disname=Anemia%2C%20H\ emolytic%2C%20Cold%20Antibody NORD - Acquired Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia National Organization for Rare Disorders offers a brief description of the rare blood disease. Find contact information for other resources. http://www.rarediseases.org/search/rdbdetail_abstract.html?disname=Anemia%2C%20H\ emolytic%2C%20Acquired%20Autoimmune Vanderbilt Univ. Medical Center - Syndrome Department of Hematology and Oncology describes the autoimmune blood disease, whose major features are thrombocytopenia and hemolytic anemia http://www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/peds/pidl/hemeonc/evans.htm MEDLINEplus Medical Encyclopedia: Hemolytic anemia .... Hemolytic anemia occurs when the bone marrow is unable to compensate for premature destruction of red blood cells by ... http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000571.htm Hemolytic Anemia .... There are a number of specific types of hemolytic anemia which are described .... http://www.msu.edu/course/isb/202/whalon/studentpages/diseases/blooddiseases/hem\ olytic.htm Loyola Univ. Health Sys. - Blood Disorders - Hemollytic Anemia .... Blood Disorders > Hemolytic Anemia. Hemolytic Anemia. What is hemolytic anemia? Hemolytic anemia is a disorder in which ... http://www.lumc.edu/health/topics/blood/anehemol.htm Disease: Hemolytic Anemia .... Disease: Hemolytic Anemia. Agglutination, Cold agglutinin hemolytic anemia. Megakaryoblast, emperipolis, hemolytic... http://image.bloodline.net/ds12 Re: Re: Ok, smarties The red blood cells are high not low...that is not anemia. But this can happen with hypo too. But don't ruin your credibility with this doc by calling her anemic because she's not. If it was LOW she would be anemic. However, the cholesterol points towards hypo. and the swollen vein points to autoimmune in some cases. Hypo CAN make you anemic, but it can also change the way you process iron and other blood building vitamins, and sometimes can cause the opposite of anemia as well...which is why I always tell someone to have the iron checked BEFOR taking a vitamin with iron. This is NOT anemia, but it can point towards hypothyroid anyway. If this doc cannot be convinced to at LEAST run a TSH she needs to run away fast and find another doc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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