For Val-Estrogen

[Guest guest]

I was just told by my insurance company that they declined paying for my bi-est

and progesterone because it is experimental.

For Val-Estrogen

Val thanks for your letter here. I had no idea my estradiol should be

about 70 or so.

My doctors are really so unknowledgeable about this stuff. I think they

pay more attention to the woman having babies and basically ignore the

post meno women patients.

My doctor didn't even go over my test results with me. I just got a copy

and then I did manage to talk to her and she said I was doing fine. But

I'm not. She basically said she didn't want to add more estrogen because

of the fibroid that is 3.5 cm. and the lining that increased from 3 mm

to 5 mm.

This does concern me also.

But I am still very low and wonder why the lining has gotten thicker and

also the fibroid problem?

So I'm not sure what to do here. I do use the estriol vaginal cream also

maybe every other day now.

I know that estriol does not get into your system.

I was going to try just using estriol alone without the estradiol but

probably I need both. But what if the fibroid gets bigger? I know I need

more progesterone but I can't tolerate that much.

Just don't know what to do?

Thanks for your input here.

Anita

[Guest guest]

> I was just told by my insurance company that they declined paying

for my bi-est and progesterone because it is experimental.

GEEZ!!!!!!!! Head banging against wall. Don't they look for ANY

excuse not to pay out while receving BILLIONS of dollars in monthly

premiums!!!!!!!!

Janie

[Guest guest]

I would imagine your uterus is thickening because you are delivering the

estriol cream directly into your uterus and you are not causing shedding at

regular intervals. I don't believe the OTC progesterone cream is adequate

to cause shedding. I'm afraid you're going to end up having to have a D & C

or some other treatment for your uterine hyperplasia.

What is it about the progesterone cream that you cannot tolerate? I used

progesterone cream for two years. It didn't bother me; it just didn't have

any positive effect either.

The progesterone I use now is not a vaginal cream. It comes as a vaginal

suppository which I use every three months.

Val in Boulder, CO

From: AtinaLee@...

I was using progesterone when I was using the estriol vaginal cream and

the vivelle patch. I just would use 1/8 tsp 2X a day and then sometimes

I could only tolerate it once a day.

I do think maybe I was using too much estriol but I wasn't using the

patch that often. I would use the patch maybe once a week for one day.

Then use the estriol vaginal cream every other day. I had some bad

vaginal dryness which is much better now. I find if I don';t use the

estriol vaginal cream the bad dryness comes back.

I also find sometimes I have to stop the progesterone for a day or so.

I use to use 75 mg. capsules for the progesterone but now just use the

3% cream.

I understand what you are saying. That maybe the estriol was too much.

But I thought it doesn't get into your bloodstream because it is

vaginally. I didn't realize they made a progesterone cream vaginally?

So I am still not sure why the lining increased. I have been trying

lately not to take too much estrogen or progesterone.