Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 It is hard to be in the mood when you have constant pain. I hope you get your pain managed better. This has been difficult for me too. You are not alone. - Carol > > So I am slowly pulling myself out of constant pain... > BUT I have noticed I don't have a sex drive, I know it's the morphine since the Savella was just added. > I really want to work on that part in the coming months.. is there any narcotic that has a better effect on libido? > Thank you! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 It can be most relaxed thing, Just like a sport masage ore a hot bath. Al you need is practice and fun. For me it works better then playing Wrestling ore rugby Sighhhhh hahaha Nope i am serieus about this, in the right way it helps you relax and it helps against the pain A lot is written about this one of them http://www.mayoclinic.com/ I got the books but they all translated in dutch. And they have the guts to talk about it in any form. My sextherapist at the rehabilitation centre put them on on her book list. Good luck Jan Willem -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: DK Moulton Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:30 AM To: tetheredspinalcord Subject: sex drive Hi , I know this goes against what you think when you're in pain or aren't in the mood due to medication, but the best way to help fix this is to try, try, try. Pain goes away to some degree when you feel good and studies have shown that intimacy raises chemicals that help mask the pain for the time being. Kathy Re: sex drive It is hard to be in the mood when you have constant pain. I hope you get your pain managed better. This has been difficult for me too. You are not alone. - Carol > > So I am slowly pulling myself out of constant pain... > BUT I have noticed I don't have a sex drive, I know it's the morphine since the Savella was just added. > I really want to work on that part in the coming months.. is there any narcotic that has a better effect on libido? > Thank you! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 The thing is it's not the pain. I mean it has been because it was BAD at certain points esp with the fibro added into it. But it has just been no interest/no drive. I'm getting switched to Oxycontin to see if it will help. She tried putting me on a new ER Diludid but it's $250 WITH insurance! Jan- thanks, I can do the hot bath, but no massage, makes me worse unfortunately >It is hard to be in the mood when you have constant pain. I hope you get your pain managed better. This has been difficult for me too. You are not alone. - Carol > > >> >> So I am slowly pulling myself out of constant pain... >> BUT I have noticed I don't have a sex drive, I know it's the morphine since the Savella was just added. >> I really want to work on that part in the coming months.. is there any narcotic that has a better effect on libido? >> Thank you! >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Sex causes a massive release of endorphins, the body's natural pain killers. Also, often if not in the mood, just being intimate, close, can lead to other things, unintended things. I think the worst thing we can do to ourselves is to give in to the lack of desire. Allowing the sex drive to atrophy is a sadness I'm not willing to risk. I mean, geez, our bodies are in revolt so much of the time. I don't pass up a chance to feel good, even if I don't really feel like it at the moment. I do get the impression that I'm different this way, that many (men and women) are repulsed by sexual advances when the mood isn't right, but I'd suggest relaxing and as Kathy says, just try. Most of the time, if I hurt and think sex is the last thing I could ever want, when I allow my husband to try to put me in the mood, it works. There are so few things in this life that feel good and are free for the taking. I hope you can find a solution because it really is a shame when we can't enjoy the most basic pleasure because of pain. ________________________________ To: tetheredspinalcord Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 5:30:53 AM Subject: sex drive Hi , I know this goes against what you think when you're in pain or aren't in the mood due to medication, but the best way to help fix this is to try, try, try. Pain goes away to some degree when you feel good and studies have shown that intimacy raises chemicals that help mask the pain for the time being. Kathy Re: sex drive It is hard to be in the mood when you have constant pain. I hope you get your pain managed better. This has been difficult for me too. You are not alone. - Carol > > So I am slowly pulling myself out of constant pain... > BUT I have noticed I don't have a sex drive, I know it's the morphine since the >Savella was just added. > I really want to work on that part in the coming months.. is there any narcotic >that has a better effect on libido? > Thank you! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Horny goat weed gets you in the mood, you'll find it in extenze you can buy at the gas station or supermarket Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 This is true - even if not in the mood a little foreplay can change things. I have a tendency to get my brain so wrapped around my To Do list that I can't unwind and end up not in the mood. But, if he can get me in bed for 5 min - he can change that. I have seen many MDs/therapists say that you have to schedule sex/intimacy into your week (if you have to) and even if not in the mood at the scheduled time - do it anyway (or at least give it a good go). Like I said, even if I'm not in the mood, sometimes I give into his advances anyway. After 5 or 10 min, the hormones get flowing and I'm in the mood. It is a good pain killer too! Jenn > > > Sex causes a massive release of endorphins, the body's natural pain > killers. > Also, often if not in the mood, just being intimate, close, can lead to > other > things, unintended things. I think the worst thing we can do to ourselves > is to > give in to the lack of desire. Allowing the sex drive to atrophy is a > sadness > I'm not willing to risk. I mean, geez, our bodies are in revolt so much of > the > time. I don't pass up a chance to feel good, even if I don't really feel > like it > at the moment. I do get the impression that I'm different this way, that > many > (men and women) are repulsed by sexual advances when the mood isn't right, > but > I'd suggest relaxing and as Kathy says, just try. Most of the time, if I > hurt > and think sex is the last thing I could ever want, when I allow my husband > to > try to put me in the mood, it works. > > There are so few things in this life that feel good and are free for the > taking. > I hope you can find a solution because it really is a shame when we can't > enjoy > the most basic pleasure because of pain. > > > > ________________________________ > > To: tetheredspinalcord > Sent: Wed, May 11, 2011 5:30:53 AM > Subject: sex drive > > > Hi , > > I know this goes against what you think when you're in pain or aren't in > the > mood due to medication, but the best way to help fix this is to try, try, > try. > Pain goes away to some degree when you feel good and studies have shown > that > intimacy raises chemicals that help mask the pain for the time being. > > Kathy > > Re: sex drive > > It is hard to be in the mood when you have constant pain. I hope you get > your > pain managed better. This has been difficult for me too. You are not alone. > - > Carol > > > > > > So I am slowly pulling myself out of constant pain... > > BUT I have noticed I don't have a sex drive, I know it's the morphine > since the > >Savella was just added. > > I really want to work on that part in the coming months.. is there any > narcotic > >that has a better effect on libido? > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I tend to think that you won't notice much difference regardless which narcotic pain med you take. Narcotics are narcotics, especially as side effects go and especially when talking about the chronic pain ones for LT use (yes, I know there can be some differences, but generally the side effects don't vary much, not like with other meds). Are you taking anything for neuropathy? Those are generally the culprits for decreased libido. They are notorious for it. Anti-depressants and anti-epileptic meds are known for their effect on libido. But, unlike the side effects from narcotics, the side effects from different meds for the management of neuropathy do vary greatly in their different side effects. If you are taking a med for neuropathy, then I would suggest trying a different one - this will probably have a greater chance of increasing libido than changing narcotics. Granted, it can be so difficult to find a med to control neuropathy that has a side effect profile you can live with, I guess it would all depend how many you've tried and how many you've failed as to whether decreased libido is a side effect you can't live with and manage other ways. Jenn On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Dybowski wrote: > > > The thing is it's not the pain. I mean it has been because it was BAD at > certain points esp with the fibro added into it. > But it has just been no interest/no drive. > I'm getting switched to Oxycontin to see if it will help. > She tried putting me on a new ER Diludid but it's $250 WITH insurance! > Jan- thanks, I can do the hot bath, but no massage, makes me worse > unfortunately > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 When I first saw a physiatrist years ago he said almost the exact same thing that I wrote to you and that and Jenn have written. He also added that even if I'm not in the mood, intamacy is so important to a relationship and should always be attempted even if one-sided sometimes. I've found this to be so true ... Kathy Re: sex drive >> >> It is hard to be in the mood when you have constant pain. I hope you get >> your >> pain managed better. This has been difficult for me too. You are not >> alone. >> - >> Carol >> >> >> > >> > So I am slowly pulling myself out of constant pain... >> > BUT I have noticed I don't have a sex drive, I know it's the morphine >> since the >> >Savella was just added. >> > I really want to work on that part in the coming months.. is there any >> narcotic >> >that has a better effect on libido? >> > Thank you! >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Yes, I'm on Neurontin and Savella. But it started prior to the Savella. Will ask my doc about it, she seemed to think the narcotic would be place to start. Thanks! >I tend to think that you won't notice much difference regardless which >narcotic pain med you take. Narcotics are narcotics, especially as side >effects go and especially when talking about the chronic pain ones for LT >use (yes, I know there can be some differences, but generally the side >effects don't vary much, not like with other meds). Are you taking anything >for neuropathy? Those are generally the culprits for decreased libido. >They are notorious for it. Anti-depressants and anti-epileptic meds are >known for their effect on libido. But, unlike the side effects from >narcotics, the side effects from different meds for the management of >neuropathy do vary greatly in their different side effects. If you are >taking a med for neuropathy, then I would suggest trying a different one - >this will probably have a greater chance of increasing libido than changing >narcotics. Granted, it can be so difficult to find a med to control >neuropathy that has a side effect profile you can live with, I guess it >would all depend how many you've tried and how many you've failed as to >whether decreased libido is a side effect you can't live with and manage >other ways. > >Jenn > >On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Dybowski wrote: > >> >> >> The thing is it's not the pain. I mean it has been because it was BAD at >> certain points esp with the fibro added into it. >> But it has just been no interest/no drive. >> I'm getting switched to Oxycontin to see if it will help. >> She tried putting me on a new ER Diludid but it's $250 WITH insurance! >> Jan- thanks, I can do the hot bath, but no massage, makes me worse >> unfortunately >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Neurontin is notorious for a whole host of side effects. I believe decreased libido is a side effect listed on about every anti-depressant and anti-epileptic. Even if not specifically listed, they can all effect your mood, which can definitely impact libido. Savella lists a whole host of sexual side effects for men - just about every problem a man could have. It doesn't list sexual side effects for women as a separate section (like it does for men), but if it can cause that many sexual side effects in men, I have to believe it can in women as well. Generally the biggest problem with narcotics effect on sex drive is fatigue/sleepiness - making you too tired to have sex - even if you wanted to. Jenn On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Dybowski wrote: > > > Yes, I'm on Neurontin and Savella. But it started prior to the Savella. > Will ask my doc about it, she seemed to think the narcotic would be place > to start. > Thanks! > > > > > >I tend to think that you won't notice much difference regardless which > >narcotic pain med you take. Narcotics are narcotics, especially as side > >effects go and especially when talking about the chronic pain ones for LT > >use (yes, I know there can be some differences, but generally the side > >effects don't vary much, not like with other meds). Are you taking > anything > >for neuropathy? Those are generally the culprits for decreased libido. > >They are notorious for it. Anti-depressants and anti-epileptic meds are > >known for their effect on libido. But, unlike the side effects from > >narcotics, the side effects from different meds for the management of > >neuropathy do vary greatly in their different side effects. If you are > >taking a med for neuropathy, then I would suggest trying a different one - > >this will probably have a greater chance of increasing libido than > changing > >narcotics. Granted, it can be so difficult to find a med to control > >neuropathy that has a side effect profile you can live with, I guess it > >would all depend how many you've tried and how many you've failed as to > >whether decreased libido is a side effect you can't live with and manage > >other ways. > > > >Jenn > > > >On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Dybowski <lilacs007@... > >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> The thing is it's not the pain. I mean it has been because it was BAD at > >> certain points esp with the fibro added into it. > >> But it has just been no interest/no drive. > >> I'm getting switched to Oxycontin to see if it will help. > >> She tried putting me on a new ER Diludid but it's $250 WITH insurance! > >> Jan- thanks, I can do the hot bath, but no massage, makes me worse > >> unfortunately > >> > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Thank you all for the advice. You are correct, and I'm really working on changing some things. My pain is " controlled " right now. It's the mood, and probably because I was in pain for so long it was physically impossible. I mean when you are in pain to the point of crawling on the floor AFTER your meds.. But now things have changed, and I will be making the effort. It's unfair to my spouse not to. >When I first saw a physiatrist years ago he said almost the exact same thing >that I wrote to you and that and Jenn have written. He also added >that even if I'm not in the mood, intamacy is so important to a relationship >and should always be attempted even if one-sided sometimes. I've found this >to be so true ... > >Kathy > Re: sex drive >>> >>> It is hard to be in the mood when you have constant pain. I hope you get >>> your >>> pain managed better. This has been difficult for me too. You are not >>> alone. >>> - >>> Carol >>> >>> >>> > >>> > So I am slowly pulling myself out of constant pain... >>> > BUT I have noticed I don't have a sex drive, I know it's the morphine >>> since the >>> >Savella was just added. >>> > I really want to work on that part in the coming months.. is there any >>> narcotic >>> >that has a better effect on libido? >>> > Thank you! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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