RE: Re: Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing Baby!

[Guest guest]

Well, Pam, I have very limited experience being diabetic less than 3 mos.

For me, if I try a new food and it brings me up 40 or 50 points in 1 hour, I

want to know that. That way, I'll probably eliminate it.

I guess with a 6.4 you ae doing all the right things.

Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing Baby!

>

>

> Perusing the grocery store (Krogers) and as always I am looking

for

> some kinda soda that taste half way decent. Especially when I

get in

> the mood for a soda. I am standing salivating in front of the

> regular coke when on the bottom shelf are these little cans of

coke!

> I'm like what is this. Coke has 8 oz sizes!! So Yes I bought me

6

> pack it was on sale.

>

> Then came time to experiment. I made sure I hadn't eaten in

awhile

> and then I tested 121 then I poured that bad boy in a glass with

some

> ice and drank up, lol This 1/2 size has 27g carbs but they are

all

> sugar carbs.

>

> Well checked in at two hours on the dot - 97!!! Almost fell

out! I

> can't believe it.

>

> Now comes the Quandry. If something is all sugar carbs - even

though

> you come in low & this is something you can live without would it

> kill me to have one a day or one every other day?

>

> Next test will be with a meal. I am already guessing I need to

drink

> this with one of my better meals,lol lol Like meat and veggies

and

> this will be the carb.

>

> So let me know what ya'll think. Well especially those that don't

> obsess about stuff like this.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pam, I am so inexperienced at this point, that I tstay away from most

foods. I don't want any high spikes, but maybe that is impossible. I guess

what I am trying to figure out is how you can have regualr coke, Eunice can

eat just about anything she wants, and right now, I can hardly tolerate any

carbs at all. It is all very confusing for me. I wish one size fit all so

it would be easier.

Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing Baby!

> >

> >

> > Perusing the grocery store (Krogers) and as always I am

looking

> for

> > some kinda soda that taste half way decent. Especially when I

> get in

> > the mood for a soda. I am standing salivating in front of the

> > regular coke when on the bottom shelf are these little cans of

> coke!

> > I'm like what is this. Coke has 8 oz sizes!! So Yes I

bought me

> 6

> > pack it was on sale.

> >

> > Then came time to experiment. I made sure I hadn't eaten in

> awhile

> > and then I tested 121 then I poured that bad boy in a glass

with

> some

> > ice and drank up, lol This 1/2 size has 27g carbs but they

are

> all

> > sugar carbs.

> >

> > Well checked in at two hours on the dot - 97!!! Almost fell

> out! I

> > can't believe it.

> >

> > Now comes the Quandry. If something is all sugar carbs - even

> though

> > you come in low & this is something you can live without

would it

> > kill me to have one a day or one every other day?

> >

> > Next test will be with a meal. I am already guessing I need

to

> drink

> > this with one of my better meals,lol lol Like meat and

veggies

> and

> > this will be the carb.

> >

> > So let me know what ya'll think. Well especially those that

don't

> > obsess about stuff like this.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

OK, what I don't understand is: If you eat something and it spikes high at

one hour, does that mean that you should not eat that even if it comes

within normal ranges at 2 hours????? That is a really big question for me.

Eunice or others, jump in here and let me know. I am desperately trying to

keep my numbers low. So I figured if I spiked at one hour that I should not

eat that again RIGHT??????

Pam, I came to the conclusion that carbs just don't work for me by testing

Right now, if I eat anything with more than a few carbs, I get a high

reading. I am trying to stay very low carb right now. I hope that when I

lose a few more pounds that I can handle more carbs.

I used to eat very high carb before the Dx. I have found that if I limit my

carbs my BG numbers stay pretty low. That is what I am trying to strive

for.

I know it is early for me but I am so freaked by the complications so I

want to do everything right ASAP.

I'm a type " A " personality - maye that is part of my problem.

Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing

Baby!

> > >

> > >

> > > Perusing the grocery store (Krogers) and as always I am

> looking

> > for

> > > some kinda soda that taste half way decent. Especially

when I

> > get in

> > > the mood for a soda. I am standing salivating in front

of the

> > > regular coke when on the bottom shelf are these little

cans of

> > coke!

> > > I'm like what is this. Coke has 8 oz sizes!! So Yes I

> bought me

> > 6

> > > pack it was on sale.

> > >

> > > Then came time to experiment. I made sure I hadn't eaten

in

> > awhile

> > > and then I tested 121 then I poured that bad boy in a

glass

> with

> > some

> > > ice and drank up, lol This 1/2 size has 27g carbs but

they

> are

> > all

> > > sugar carbs.

> > >

> > > Well checked in at two hours on the dot - 97!!! Almost

fell

> > out! I

> > > can't believe it.

> > >

> > > Now comes the Quandry. If something is all sugar carbs -

even

> > though

> > > you come in low & this is something you can live without

> would it

> > > kill me to have one a day or one every other day?

> > >

> > > Next test will be with a meal. I am already guessing I

need

> to

> > drink

> > > this with one of my better meals,lol lol Like meat and

> veggies

> > and

> > > this will be the carb.

> > >

> > > So let me know what ya'll think. Well especially those

that

> don't

> > > obsess about stuff like this.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/1/2002 9:30:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

sjones319@... writes:

> At 1 hour, I

> think it is supposed to be at it's peak and at 2 hours is how your body had

> processed it. Someone please correct me if that isn't correct.

>

Hi ,

This sounds right to me. Maybe it's not so much what we peak at, but how

quickly we come back down to normal. Regardless of what my bg's are at 1 hr

or 2 hrs, within 3 hrs after eating, they are going to be back to normal. I

have heard other people say it will take many hours for their bg's to get

back to normal.

hugs

Eunice

[Guest guest]

That is really a great attitude. It is good to realize you are not perfect,

but that you will try and do better. We can't always be perfect but we can

learn and try next time.

Re: Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing Baby!

: Hey we all have to get used to this change in our lifestyle so you

: keep testing and keep figuring out what is best for you and NO MAM I

: don't do it all right - I mess up all the time but I don't condemn

: myself to hell because of it. I just try to do better the next time.

[Guest guest]

Once you get stabilized and get your bg's under the best control they can

be, you can try to add little things here and there. It takes time and

patience, but it can work. Some of us will never be able to tolerate much.

But our bodies and our systems are all different. Remember that what works

for one may not work for another. Keep trying and have patience. You are

doing great.

Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing Baby!

: > >

: > >

: > > Perusing the grocery store (Krogers) and as always I am

: looking

: > for

: > > some kinda soda that taste half way decent. Especially when I

: > get in

: > > the mood for a soda. I am standing salivating in front of the

: > > regular coke when on the bottom shelf are these little cans of

: > coke!

: > > I'm like what is this. Coke has 8 oz sizes!! So Yes I

: bought me

: > 6

: > > pack it was on sale.

: > >

: > > Then came time to experiment. I made sure I hadn't eaten in

: > awhile

: > > and then I tested 121 then I poured that bad boy in a glass

: with

: > some

: > > ice and drank up, lol This 1/2 size has 27g carbs but they

: are

: > all

: > > sugar carbs.

: > >

: > > Well checked in at two hours on the dot - 97!!! Almost fell

: > out! I

: > > can't believe it.

: > >

: > > Now comes the Quandry. If something is all sugar carbs - even

: > though

: > > you come in low & this is something you can live without

: would it

: > > kill me to have one a day or one every other day?

: > >

: > > Next test will be with a meal. I am already guessing I need

: to

: > drink

: > > this with one of my better meals,lol lol Like meat and

: veggies

: > and

: > > this will be the carb.

: > >

: > > So let me know what ya'll think. Well especially those that

: don't

: > > obsess about stuff like this.

: > >

: > >

: > >

[Guest guest]

If I am not mistaken, if it comes in close to normal at 2 hours, that is

good. Someone else might have different ideas or their doctor told them

something different. I have learned here that all doctors do not believe

the same thing. How high is it at 1 hour and then at 2 hours? At 1 hour, I

think it is supposed to be at it's peak and at 2 hours is how your body had

processed it. Someone please correct me if that isn't correct.

RE: Re: Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing Baby!

: OK, what I don't understand is: If you eat something and it spikes high

at

: one hour, does that mean that you should not eat that even if it comes

: within normal ranges at 2 hours????? That is a really big question for me.

: Eunice or others, jump in here and let me know. I am desperately trying

to

: keep my numbers low. So I figured if I spiked at one hour that I should

not

: eat that again RIGHT??????

:

: Pam, I came to the conclusion that carbs just don't work for me by testing

: Right now, if I eat anything with more than a few carbs, I get a high

: reading. I am trying to stay very low carb right now. I hope that when I

: lose a few more pounds that I can handle more carbs.

:

: I used to eat very high carb before the Dx. I have found that if I limit

my

: carbs my BG numbers stay pretty low. That is what I am trying to strive

: for.

:

: I know it is early for me but I am so freaked by the complications so I

: want to do everything right ASAP.

:

: I'm a type " A " personality - maye that is part of my problem.

[Guest guest]

I have the American Diabetes Assasisiating book and I went to a top

diatition at Stanford...and she and the book both say that we count

carbs and its ok to have sugar as long as you test... and you passed

the test...sus

How fun..Real LIVE coke.wow..we don't have the small little cans

here...but I will be on the look out for them.

PLUS.you have lost weight and your body now can handle more carbs!! Not

all diabetics are in the severe category..some are just insulin

resistant because of the weight and once they loose it they can handle a

bit of carbs..

This is what I was told.and so far belive it..sus

-----Original Message-----

From: pamalicious_2000

This 1/2 size has 27g carbs but they are

all

> sugar carbs.

>

> Well checked in at two hours on the dot - 97!!! Almost fell

out! I

> can't believe it.

>

> Now comes the Quandry. If something is all sugar carbs - even

though

> you come in low & this is something you can live without would it

> kill me to have one a day or one every other day?

>

> Next test will be with a meal. I am already guessing I need to

drink

> this with one of my better meals,lol lol Like meat and veggies

and

> this will be the carb.

>

> So let me know what ya'll think. Well especially those that don't

> obsess about stuff like this.

[Guest guest]

Gosh I remember last summer. Before I found out my body was not using my

insulin!! We had a real hot summer with NO air conditioning and I would

pour coke/pepsi after pepsi and real sprite after real sprite....and

even after all that my first A1C test 6.7...

Now I drink only diet but I do miss the real pepsi !! YUM with ice...sus

-----Original Message-----

From: pamalicious_2000

I'm not trying to become a " Ken " like character I remember the whole

soda issue. Even if I have one once a week which I am more inclined

to do I get a treat - fix that enormous jones I've had for the whole

two years I've been diagnosed and feel better. It's a trade off, I'll

further stream line my diet for the coke.

[Guest guest]

I wonder if non diabetics get this spike too? sus

Re: Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing Baby!

>If something is all sugar carbs - even though

>you come in low & this is something you can live without would it

>kill me to have one a day or one every other day?

re: real Coke

Anything that is " all sugar carbs " would peak long before 2 hours, maybe

in

as little as 10-20 minutes, depending, of course, on your metabolism and

the amount/rate at which your T2 system still produces insulin. For a T1

(producing no natural insulin), which I am, " real " Coke (or OJ or nearly

anything " all sugar " ) could be used to " medicate " a hypo because the

sugar

action is so fast.

Sandy