Thanks

[Guest guest]

Dena, Sorry I can't help you with your skin problems. That's fortunately

one problem I haven't had but others here have mentioned it so I think you'll

probably hear from them. I am glad you have decided to forgive your husband.

I do believe it has nothing to do with you but I know that's hard to believe

when you can't have sex. Hang in there and we'll all pray for a cure. Hugs,

Donna

[Guest guest]

How do I find out more about WW selections for pregnant women? Sounds

interesting.

Thanks

Thank you guys and thanks Chrys. I've never heard of WW selections. I'll

have to look into that! Thanks for all your support and I'll keep you

posted on how I'm doing weight wise etc.

Tami

[Guest guest]

Tami, please, I know this is frustrating, but your body is working overtime

to produce a new human being. You're expected to gain weight. And your

hormones are doing weird things, which may have contributed to the tears.

Just plan to breast-feed, stay away from obviously junk food, and check in

with us whenever you need to. Honey, we've (almost) all been there, done

that, and I can tell you, having a healthy child is far more important than

that dang scale. Now go drink some chocolate milk and start reading " What to

Expect When You're Expecting. " And go for the epidural.

> Thanks again for all your advise on how and what to eat during pregnancy.

I

> went to the Dr yesterday and actually cried when I stepped on the scale.

I

> just felt like all my hard work had gone out the window in just a few

short

> weeks! I can't believe how much I've gone up so quickly and I haven' t

been

> eating badly.

>

> >

[Guest guest]

She's right, Tami.. Im pregnant right now.. and its

hard to find out all your good work " down the drain " ..

but remember, you are baking a baby. Eat sensibly, and

exercise regularly, and dont worry about it. Think of

it as a hiatus. When i went to the doc and found out

i gained all my weight back, I was SOOO mad. ON what?

whole wheat bread and diet ham? GEEEZZZ..but Im trying

to watch my weight anyhow, and keep it down this time;

I gained 20 lbs over with my last, i am aiming to NOT

do that this time.

--- Diane Loupe wrote:

> Tami, please, I know this is frustrating, but your

> body is working overtime

> to produce a new human being. You're expected to

> gain weight. And your

> hormones are doing weird things, which may have

> contributed to the tears.

> Just plan to breast-feed, stay away from obviously

> junk food, and check in

> with us whenever you need to. Honey, we've (almost)

> all been there, done

> that, and I can tell you, having a healthy child is

> far more important than

> that dang scale. Now go drink some chocolate milk

> and start reading " What to

> Expect When You're Expecting. " And go for the

> epidural.

>

> > Thanks again for all your advise on how and what

> to eat during pregnancy.

> I

> > went to the Dr yesterday and actually cried when I

> stepped on the scale.

> I

> > just felt like all my hard work had gone out the

> window in just a few

> short

> > weeks! I can't believe how much I've gone up so

> quickly and I haven' t

> been

> > eating badly.

> >

> > >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I thought about the " twins thing " as well, but no such

luck.. I know that when y ou get pregnant, you get

full of fluid. two seconds after i got pregnant, i got

the carpal tunnel problem, which is where you are

swollen and it presses on the nerve where the wrist

is.. and your hands go to sleep. It happened with the

first two kids too.. so some of that weight could be

just your body being full of fluid, too. Oh, and also

in the TMI region.. the nurse told me I had one of the

" biggest placentas " she had ever seen.. which is why i

was also SO convinced I was having twins.. I had over

a month to go, and people kept asking me " havent you

had that baby yet? and " is it twins? " geeezzz..

--- Tami Hutter wrote:

> Well, I do know he told me 6 servings of Milk

> products a day and that will

> give me my adequate protein as well. So I guess

> we'll just see how things

> go! I have my first ultra sound scheduled for

> Tuesday so maybe my weight

> gain isn't my fault, maybe it's twins! hehe

>

> Thanks again

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[Guest guest]

Don't forget in addition to fluid...your blood volume increases

too...

>

> > Well, I do know he told me 6 servings of Milk

> > products a day and that will

> > give me my adequate protein as well. So I guess

> > we'll just see how things

> > go! I have my first ultra sound scheduled for

> > Tuesday so maybe my weight

> > gain isn't my fault, maybe it's twins! hehe

> >

> > Thanks again

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

> Janie and Zina thanks for your input on things. I think I might

>give the cytomel another try.

Great Anita. And be sure to read 's post to you--it was on

target.

And please understand that taking one Cytomel probably would not

cause you to feel bad that quick, if you were intolerant to T3. It

could, but I doubt with you that that is what is going on.

I know with your past problems with itching, and with other medicine

issues, you tend to overreact emotionally and intellectually to what

you are taking, and you attribute problems to thyroid meds too

quickly. It's understandable with your past itching and reactions!!

But it's too reactive, too soon. Does that make sense??

We won't be upset with you if you eventually return to Levoxyl

alone!! But we'll definitely sympathize because you will continue to

have problems that folks on T4-only have.

And what we would like to see you do is stick with something longer

than a few days, or suddenly get off something because of what I

mentioned above. You need to stick with it for at least 5 weeks,

then labs. And if you are doing ok, and you find your free T3 still

not in the upper part of the range, you need to increase that

Cytomel (and possibly find a doc who will encourage that as you

mentioned).

Just a few things to consider as you are using wisdom about your own

body. Glad to hear that your amount of Levoxyl wasn't recalled.

Janie

[Guest guest]

first thanks for your letter. I really don't make up my mind and

then ignore your advice. I really do consider everything very carefully.

I have had a very bad past history with terrible itching for about 5

years. I'm so glad that is gone now. I hesitate because I am scared the

itching will come back.

If I mistook 's letter then I apologize I did feel it was

insulting.

I do enjoy all of your letters and advice. I think this a great group

here.

Janie thanks also for your letter.

Actually for your information I have been on cytomel at 0.025 mcg. since

June. I only stopped it last week.

I never stopped it before this.

I was very disappointed with these blood tests since it was better with

the levoxyl alone.

I will give it one more try here. I will now take 0.050 mcg. and see

what happens. If the next blood test is still real bad then maybe I will

try the levoxyl alone. I am also taking selenium and will try to wean

off the estrogen and increase the progesterone. This should help.

I might be moving in the near future to Long Island in New York. I might

have better luck with doctors out there. Not sure about this. We have

only started talking about this. I will stick with these doctors right

now because I don't want to go through so many changes here.

Thanks again.

Anita

[Guest guest]

> Actually for your information I have been on cytomel at 0.025 mcg.

>ince June. I only stopped it last week. I never stopped it before

>his.I was very disappointed with these blood tests since it was

>etter with the levoxyl alone. I will give it one more try here. I

>ill now take 0.050 mcg. and see what happens. If the next blood

>est is still real bad then maybe I will try the levoxyl alone. I am

>lso taking selenium and will try to wean

Hi there Anita. I knew you had been taking the Cytomel for a while--

that's why I don't think you have an intolerance to T3 as far as

suddenly feeling bad lately! And that is good news!! But I can also

tell that you still don't understand how thyroid hormones work. And

you don't understand why it was not a wise move to stop your Cytomel!

When you were on Levoxyl alone, you were probably converting much of

the T4 to T3. If I remember correctly, you had a free T3 in the

middle of the range on Levoxyl only. Right?? But I also remember

that you were having symptoms that still pointed to an inadequate

level of T3. Remember: we are all striving to get our free T3 to the

upper part of the range, not mid or low. We all note that when we

get our free T3 right up there, all those problems resolve

themselves!!

When you came on this site and described your symptoms, several of

us had an idea that T4-only meds were still leaving you with an non-

optimal amount of T3 from the conversion, and thus with symptoms

still associated with being hypo--symptoms that you had originally

expressed frustration about!

We recommended Armour since it provided T4 (just like you were

getting in Levoxyl), but it also provided DIRECT T3, JUST like your

own thyroid would be doing!! In just a few days on Armour, you felt

like it didn't work for you since your itching increased.

Later, you got on Cytomel with your Levoxyl. And then recently you

did tests. And those tests showed your free T3 to be too low!!

But your next step was what our recent emails to you were concerned

about!! You stopped Cytomel!!!! You stopped giving yourself T3 when

the very thing you need the MOST is more T3.

And I think you stopped the Cytomel because you felt like you had

done better when on Levoxyl alone, correct?? Anita, your free T3 may

have been better on Levoxyl because you were on MORE T4 (Levoxyl)

than you are on now, and it was converting to the T3. BUT, on

Levoxyl alone, your free T3 was still not high enough, and you

described symptoms that related to having not enough T3.

SO, a better strategy for now, with support from your doctor, is to

increase your Cytomel until you get your free T3 AS high as you had

it before on Levoxyl alone, and then increase it MORE if needed

until you get that free T3 at the top of the range. You will NEVER

accomplish where you need to be if you stop the Cytomel just because

tests show your free T3 to be low. Your free T3 is low because you

need a LOT more Cytomel.

Does the above make sense?? Do you have any questions or comments

about the above??

Again, if I was in your shoes, I would increase my Cytomel (as I

think you are doing--doubling it, correct??) then do labs again in 5

weeks. Then, I am going to presume that it still may not be enough

to get your Free T3 to the upper part of the range, and then I would

increase the Cytomel AGAIN...then labs in 5 weeks. My ultimate goal

was to see if on Cytomel I can get my free T3 to the upper part of

the range---HIGHER than were it was on Levoxyl alone.

And along the above route, I would not, not stop the Cytomel, no

matter what the labs show. I would increase it until I got there.

Janie

[Guest guest]

Hi Anita,

I think it really messes your body up when you stop taking something

for a few days, and then start taking it again. You may want to stay

on one dose for at least 3 to 5 weeks before you decide to make

changes. That is probably why you aren't feeling so good, it just

takes a few days to feel the effects of what you did.

Zina

> thanks for that nice letter you wrote here. It really made me

feel

> so much better.

>

> Janie and Zina thanks for your input on things. I think I might

give the

> cytomel another try.

> I was taking 0.025 mcg. and might increase this to 0.050 mcg. That

is

> all the pills I have and this doctor won't increase me more than

this.

>

> I took one cytomel today plus the levoxyl and I am not feeling that

> great. I was doing really well for several days when I was off it.

Maybe

> I can't tolerate the T3. So don't get upset with me if I don't stay

on

> this.

>

> My levoxyl was not the ones that got recalled by the way. It seems

the

> low dose I take of 0.050 mcg. never gets recalled. I notice it is

always

> the 0.075 mcg. that get recalled.

>

> Thanks again.

>

> Anita

[Guest guest]

You more than likely are right!!

Zina

(The vet grade is probably better*LMAO)

>