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In a message dated 6/19/2002 7:33:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wsm311@...

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> Quit eating the ADA diet and go low carb!

>

Hi ,

Everyone cannot go low-carb. I cannot. When I tried it, I almost ended up

in the hospital. I don't stick to the ADA plan, Adkins plan. I developed my

own plan and it is working for me. I eat high carbs when I'm going to be

active after eating, low-carbs when I'm not. I do eat in moderation.

Eunice

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> Everyone cannot go low-carb. I cannot. When I tried it, I almost ended up

> in the hospital. I don't stick to the ADA plan, Adkins plan. I developed

> my

> own plan and it is working for me. I eat high carbs when I'm going to be

> active after eating, low-carbs when I'm not. I do eat in moderation.

Is that because of meds? Type 1, Type 2 with meds and Type 2 with just diet

are like separate diseases!

I gave my opinion of the article for my circumstances and for people like me.

I wish I understood the meds better....but kind don't want to! I'm hoping to

prolong my controlled-by-diet period as long as possible.

Logically, it would seem best to use less meds and have better control of

bg's with food, but I do not understand how that mechanism works.

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In a message dated 6/19/2002 1:03:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wsm311@...

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> Logically, it would seem best to use less meds and have better control of

> bg's with food, but I do not understand how that mechanism works

Hi ,

I am a type 2. I was on meds, but decided I wanted off, so I changed my

eating habits (smaller portions) exercising more and lost weight. I have

been off meds since Feb 2001. I am a very active person so that is probably

why I can eat more carbs than someone that sits most of the time. Probably

if I worked in an office or something similar I would have to go low carbs or

be on meds.

I ate oatmeal for breakfast. Also had more than 1/2 cup of Fat Free milk in

my 4 cups of coffee. After breakfast, I carried some things from the house

to my hubby's barn, watered flowers, then pushed the dust mop over the floor

and walked out to the mailbox (about a 10 min. walk). One hour after

breakfast, my bg's were 103. I do not have to do strenuous exercise, but

just do something other than sitting. At some point, I may have to go back

on meds, but I'm thankful for each day that I'm not on them.

Eunice

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I ate oatmeal for breakfast. Also had more than 1/2 cup of Fat Free milk in

my 4 cups of coffee. After breakfast, I carried some things from the house

to my hubby's barn, watered flowers, then pushed the dust mop over the floor

and walked out to the mailbox (about a 10 min. walk). One hour after

breakfast, my bg's were 103. I do not have to do strenuous exercise, but

just do something other than sitting. At some point, I may have to go back

on meds, but I'm thankful for each day that I'm not on them.

Now I have even more questions ;-) You said <<Everyone cannot go low-carb. I

cannot. When I tried it, I almost ended up in the hospital. >>

What do you mean? What happened? When you say you went low carb, what did you

do? I don't follow any plan either, I just stay away from high carb stuff.

One morning I had hot cereal with oats, wheat, soy, flax, etc. and my bg was

106. I drink milk every day with my morning pills.

My excercise ability is all over the place. Today I can hardly move. I got up

this morning for an hour and went back to bed for 4!! ;-O I am incredibly

weak from the !@#$! myasthenia gravis. This exacerbation of it has come back

with a vengence now that I'm off prednisone. I'm about to go out and try

weedwhacking, but typing is very strenuous, so I probably won't last long.

You answered one of my questions about meds. I wondered if tighter diet

control would get someone off them. I'm glad you don't have to take them

right now ;-)

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In a message dated 6/19/2002 3:05:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wsm311@...

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> When I tried it, I almost ended up in the hospital. >>

>

> What do you mean? What happened? When you say you went low carb, what did

> you

> do?

When I went low carbs, I was getting lows every two hours. I called my

doctor because my heart was racing and my blood pressure was high (I was on

meds at the time for blood pressure). I lost my energy and felt horrible.

My doctor decreased my meds. I started eating higher carbs and was still

getting the lows so that is when she discontinued my meds. I've not had

anymore problems and I eat basically anything I want, but in moderation. I'm

now off all meds for blood pressure. I have lots of energy and I feel great.

Eunice

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In a message dated 6/19/2002 6:45:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pnorwood1@... writes:

> I on the other hand have less than perfect blood sugar control A1c is 6.5

Hi Phyllis,

My last A1c was 6.5. I was satisfied, especially without meds. I would like

for it to be lower, but I'm not letting this number stress me. I really have

no symptoms of diabetes - no problems with feet, eyes or any of those

problems that I am aware of.

If I ate what you do, I would gain my 54 lbs back plus 54 additional. LOL

We're all different, but with the same goal - to do the best we can so that

we can live a long, happy and healthy life.

Eunice

who plans to live a long, long time but not get old.

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Eunice is a wonderful exception to the rule, I beleive. She has great self

discipline and can eat a little bit of a lot of foods and has great blood

sugar. I envy her.

I on the other hand have less than perfect blood sugar control A1c is 6.5, I

guess that is OK, but not a 5.0 and have to eat like a pig. So for me low

carb is perfect. Some of the meals I eat are:

Huge mixing bowl of salad with cheese, ham and real ranch dressing with

fried chicken pieces or 6 eggs with green peppers and onions and 4 pieces of

sausage, but I am never hungry. So I think each person must decide what

works for them.

>> > Quit eating the ADA diet and go low carb!

> >

>

>Hi ,

>Everyone cannot go low-carb. I cannot. When I tried it, I almost ended up

>in the hospital. I don't stick to the ADA plan, Adkins plan. I developed

>my

>own plan and it is working for me. I eat high carbs when I'm going to be

>active after eating, low-carbs when I'm not. I do eat in moderation.

>

>Eunice

>

>

>

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An A1C of 6.5 is great. Non-diabetics are between 4-6. Most

diabetics have troubles getting it anywhere near non-diabetic levels.

What you are doing is obviously working for you! Great job! My

last A1C was 7...and since I'm type 1 I think that is good! I also

believe that everyone needs to find what combinations of food,

medication, exercise works for them. No one is exactly alike, so no

treatment plan should be either!

--- Phyllis Norwood wrote:

> Eunice is a wonderful exception to the rule, I beleive. She has

> great self

> discipline and can eat a little bit of a lot of foods and has great

> blood

> sugar. I envy her.

>

> I on the other hand have less than perfect blood sugar control A1c

> is 6.5, I

> guess that is OK, but not a 5.0 and have to eat like a pig. So for

> me low

> carb is perfect. Some of the meals I eat are:

>

> Huge mixing bowl of salad with cheese, ham and real ranch dressing

> with

> fried chicken pieces or 6 eggs with green peppers and onions and 4

> pieces of

> sausage, but I am never hungry. So I think each person must decide

> what

> works for them.

>

>

> >> > Quit eating the ADA diet and go low carb!

> > >

> >

> >Hi ,

> >Everyone cannot go low-carb. I cannot. When I tried it, I almost

> ended up

> >in the hospital. I don't stick to the ADA plan, Adkins plan. I

> developed

> >my

> >own plan and it is working for me. I eat high carbs when I'm

> going to be

> >active after eating, low-carbs when I'm not. I do eat in

> moderation.

> >

> >Eunice

> >

> >

> >

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This can be fairly typical when you go into ketosis and will pass after 2 or

3 days or you can increase your carbs a little bit. I have never felt as bad

as when I went into ketosis, I thought I was dying, but it passed with

aspirin and plenty of water. My daughter and son did it and had no reaction,

so again it is mixed.

>>In a message dated 6/19/2002 3:05:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>>wsm311@...

>writes:

>

>

> > When I tried it, I almost ended up in the hospital. >>

> >

> > What do you mean? What happened? When you say you went low carb, what

>did

> > you

> > do?

>

>When I went low carbs, I was getting lows every two hours. I called my

>doctor because my heart was racing and my blood pressure was high (I was on

>meds at the time for blood pressure). I lost my energy and felt horrible.

>My doctor decreased my meds. I started eating higher carbs and was still

>getting the lows so that is when she discontinued my meds. I've not had

>anymore problems and I eat basically anything I want, but in moderation.

>I'm

>now off all meds for blood pressure. I have lots of energy and I feel

>great.

>

>Eunice

>

>

>

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Eunice in my opinion " you are the woman! " The doctor was very please with

the 6.5, but you know I hear everyone saying 5.0 is normal so I am hoping

when the weight comes off, it might get there. I do on special occassions

eat what I want and I always will. Life is too short not to enjoy Christmas.

I just try to really watch it.

>From: ERWachter@...

>Reply-To: diabetes

>To: diabetes

>Subject: Re: article....

>Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 20:31:25 EDT

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>In a message dated 6/19/2002 6:45:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>pnorwood1@... writes:

>

>

> > I on the other hand have less than perfect blood sugar control A1c is

>6.5

>

>Hi Phyllis,

>My last A1c was 6.5. I was satisfied, especially without meds. I would

>like

>for it to be lower, but I'm not letting this number stress me. I really

>have

>no symptoms of diabetes - no problems with feet, eyes or any of those

>problems that I am aware of.

>

>If I ate what you do, I would gain my 54 lbs back plus 54 additional. LOL

>We're all different, but with the same goal - to do the best we can so that

>we can live a long, happy and healthy life.

>

>Eunice

>who plans to live a long, long time but not get old.

>

>

>

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