Re: reg: article on fecal implants

[Guest guest]

Interesting theory. I and many of my children had gobs of antibiotics the first

few years of life. Sadly, they weren't Zithromax, which might have made all the

difference.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

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> Mentioned in the article they talked about rats that were sterile never

developed the right size bowel, it was smaller. Early on in our recovery

journey, I had read about lactic acidosis and short bowel syndrome. Now, lets

say you are born in a house with mold (penicillin), took lots of antibiotics

early on or inherited mostly candida from your mom or got it from the hosipital

(which btw, i think our kids are picking up a lot in the hospital now), you do

not get the good microbes to fully develop the bowels properly. So, when we

start biomed, we load on probiotics, most of them making the D-lactate that

someone with a short bowel can't handle-when yeast die-off the bacteria take

over and make too much lactic acid. Just a thought. My son's feet smelled of

vinegar last week during a big regression. anyway, how would they know if a

child had developed a short bowel? What if some of autistic symptoms are more

lactic acidosis at times? I know boys in general have a smaller intestines than

girls.

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> Jen

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[Guest guest]

We try to avoid or at least reducing the use of Lactobacillus acidophilus.

Unfortunately, this is the most commonly used in probiotic products. I believe

that my son's large intake of L. acidophilus in the past made his body acidic

and aggravated his dental infections. At Autism One, I met a sales rep of a

newly-founded probiotic company who had Lyme and many GI issues. She told me

that the company's goal is to make clean probiotics products for the sensitive

individuals with severe gut problems. The first thing that they took it out was

L. acidophilus. She said that in the past she thought she was herxing when

taking probiotics containing this strain. Over time she gradually realized that

L. acidophilus was making her sicker and sicker, because the large amount of

lactic acids produced by L. acidophilus made her system friendly for pathogenic

infections to thrive.

I am looking into making fermented foods at home, to reduce our dependance on

probiotic supplements. Manisha just sent out the announcement of the free

webinar on nutrition healing using fermented foods. This is much welcomed

information.

Limin

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> Mentioned in the article they talked about rats that were sterile never

developed the right size bowel, it was smaller. Early on in our recovery

journey, I had read about lactic acidosis and short bowel syndrome. Now, lets

say you are born in a house with mold (penicillin), took lots of antibiotics

early on or inherited mostly candida from your mom or got it from the hosipital

(which btw, i think our kids are picking up a lot in the hospital now), you do

not get the good microbes to fully develop the bowels properly. So, when we

start biomed, we load on probiotics, most of them making the D-lactate that

someone with a short bowel can't handle-when yeast die-off the bacteria take

over and make too much lactic acid. Just a thought. My son's feet smelled of

vinegar last week during a big regression. anyway, how would they know if a

child had developed a short bowel? What if some of autistic symptoms are more

lactic acidosis at times? I know boys in general have a smaller intestines than

girls.

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> Jen

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[Guest guest]

I have to say that kefir is the best out there by far and my homemade saurkraut

I use the BED starter and add a cap of the plantarum 299v strain. I think you're

right about acidophilus. Not too many antibiotics will kill it anymore, so it

overgrows.

Jen

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> > Mentioned in the article they talked about rats that were sterile never

developed the right size bowel, it was smaller. Early on in our recovery

journey, I had read about lactic acidosis and short bowel syndrome. Now, lets

say you are born in a house with mold (penicillin), took lots of antibiotics

early on or inherited mostly candida from your mom or got it from the hosipital

(which btw, i think our kids are picking up a lot in the hospital now), you do

not get the good microbes to fully develop the bowels properly. So, when we

start biomed, we load on probiotics, most of them making the D-lactate that

someone with a short bowel can't handle-when yeast die-off the bacteria take

over and make too much lactic acid. Just a thought. My son's feet smelled of

vinegar last week during a big regression. anyway, how would they know if a

child had developed a short bowel? What if some of autistic symptoms are more

lactic acidosis at times? I know boys in general have a smaller intestines than

girls.

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[Guest guest]

hummmmm.....my hubby registered with no acidolphilis on his genova stool sample and the doc just told me Cultrelle....his diet is crappy....maybe i'll have him use the ph sticks and see whats up before blowing money on that one.

lisa

[Guest guest]

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A few months ago my son's stool test came back similar to your husband (low

acidophilus) and what I gave him was fermented coconut water with every meal

plus cultured vegetables and now after 3 month his stool test came back O.K.

I have also started taking fermented coconut water and cultured vegetable with

every meal and my reflux has improved greatly.

It is a hard work and expensive to do it, because I have to do it for 4

people(my two kids, husband and myself) but it is paying off.

We are feeling much better after we started taking them.

Olga

-- In BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism , personalcargo@...

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> hummmmm.....my hubby registered with no acidolphilis on his genova stool

sample and the doc just told me Cultrelle....his diet is crappy....maybe i'll

have him use the ph sticks and see whats up before blowing money on that one.

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> lisa

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[Guest guest]

olga....how did you culture coconut milk? i have no confidence in this arena!!

lisa

[Guest guest]

Hi Limin,

If you can access unpasteurised/unheated dairy products (in our house goats milk

works), it will naturally provide a large range of probiotic bug strains plus

enzymes to digest all components of the milk. I do not use any cultures, the

milk is placed in glass jars, lid on and kept warm for a few days. If the milk

has been frozen, it does not work as well, and is not as healthy for the gut as

the freezing process mucks up proteins etc.

Similarly, you have to check if organic veges are really organic (ie some

organic sprays are still not good eg. Dipel).

na

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> We try to avoid or at least reducing the use of Lactobacillus acidophilus.

Unfortunately, this is the most commonly used in probiotic products. I believe

that my son's large intake of L. acidophilus in the past made his body acidic

and aggravated his dental infections. At Autism One, I met a sales rep of a

newly-founded probiotic company who had Lyme and many GI issues. She told me

that the company's goal is to make clean probiotics products for the sensitive

individuals with severe gut problems. The first thing that they took it out was

L. acidophilus. She said that in the past she thought she was herxing when

taking probiotics containing this strain. Over time she gradually realized that

L. acidophilus was making her sicker and sicker, because the large amount of

lactic acids produced by L. acidophilus made her system friendly for pathogenic

infections to thrive.

>

> I am looking into making fermented foods at home, to reduce our dependance on

probiotic supplements. Manisha just sent out the announcement of the free

webinar on nutrition healing using fermented foods. This is much welcomed

information.

>

> Limin

[Guest guest]

Not Olga, but you can culture coconut milk with either water or milk kefir

grains. Olga, culinary goddess that she is, may have done something else, so

hopefully she will fill us in on other alternatives

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> olga....how did you culture coconut milk? i have no confidence in this

arena!!

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> lisa

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[Guest guest]

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I make the coconut kefir from young coconut water.

If you google " How to make young coconut kefir " you will find lot of Youtube

videos explaining how to do it.

Donna Gates uses fermented foods a lot to heal the gut and also to populate the

bowel with good bacteria.

I buy the Kefir starter from a friend here in Australia and also the culture

starter to ferment vegetables like cabbage, carrots, beetroots, kale, garlic,

ginger etc or whatever vegetable you would like to culture. You can google

" How to make Cultured vegetables " to see youtube videos of how to prepare it.

We all at home take a cup of coconut kefir as soon as we wake up, with lunch,

dinner and before bed. This water is full of minerals good bacteria and other

nutrients that the body needs.

The cultured vegetables also provide the body with good bacteria and, vitamins,

fibre and much more.

Olga-- In BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism , " sfselene "

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> Not Olga, but you can culture coconut milk with either water or milk kefir

grains. Olga, culinary goddess that she is, may have done something else, so

hopefully she will fill us in on other alternatives

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arena!!

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[Guest guest]

just clarifying: coconut water and coconut milk are different.

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[Guest guest]

You are right Selene.

Coconut milk is made from the white meat of the coconut(fresh coconut not the

brown one) and coconut kefir is made from the water of the young green coconut.

I made both but sometimes I just make the coconut water kefir and discard the

meat because it can be hard to cut the coconut and scrape the white meat.

The fermented coconut water is delicious and nutritious.

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