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Hi everyone! Last night was my third (of five) diabetes class. It was

the most boring (speakers were not great). We heard first from the

pharmacist who talked about meds in very general terms. Then a

physical therapist who has had diabetes for 19 years (type 1).. she

talked about exercise.

A few highlights:

The ADA recommended goal for A1c test was 7%... they are lowering that

to 6.5 (although they haven't done that officially yet).

An aspirin a day is good to take if you have diabetes... ask your doctor.

Take a daily vitamin (Centrum are good).

Cannot regulate your glucose levels without exercise. If you are not

willing to exercise, you cannot manage your diabetes. Best exercise is

that which is done consistently.

Walking is the best exercise to begin with.. or swimming if you have

trouble with joints. Walking 4 miles per hour has the same effect on

your body as running. Start slow - walking only a few minutes a day

and build up as you increase your endurance.

As you begin an exercise program, test your blood before, during and

after exercising.

Before exercising, test your blood. If your reading is 80 or less,

have 30g of short-acting carb (like juice) and a long acting carb

(like crackers with peanut butter) before exercising.

.... if your reading is between 80-120, have 15g juice and some

crackers with peanut butter before exercising

..... if your reading is over 200, do not exercise as exercising will

cause your glucose level to raise even higher while exercising.

Make sure you have a short-acting carb with you when exercising, just

in case of a low attack.

.... short acting carbs: juice, candy, fruit, glucose tabs

.... long acting carbs: pasta, bread, crackers

Test after exercising: your BG should be the same after you exercise

as it was before you exercised.

Extremely hot weather can cause BG to go up. Extremely cold weather

can cause BG to go down.

Diabetics are 65 times more likely to need amputation. Be very careful

about shoes. Make sure the athletic shoes you wear (walking shoes are

best) are breathable. New Balance makes an athletic shoe that they

recommend for diabetics (with a mesh upper). Never wear canvas shoes

as they have very little support and if they get wet, stay wet a long

time. Don't wear vinyl or pleather as they don't breath. Don't wear

shoes that squish your toes together (pointy). Don't go barefoot, even

in the house. Dr. Schols makes a diabetic insert that is one of the

best you can buy. If you find an open wound on your foot, keep it

clean and bandaged, and contact your doctor immediately.

Jacki

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Kristy

Five sessions, 2.5 hours each. In addition, each person gets on hour

of individual time with the dietician to develop a personalized meal

plan. The sessions take place at a classroom at the hospital (in Royal

Oak, Michigan). So far we've had:

Session 1 - general overview of diabetes

Session 2 - nutrition

Session 3 - pharmacist, exercise

In the last two sessions we'll hear from an eye doctor, foot doctor,

social worker (to talk about stress and coping), and finish up with

meter testing. They will give meters to everyone in the class who does

not already have one.

We've gotten lots of materials, handouts and even little treats

(Fifty50 diabetic brownies, oatmeal, lotion for feet, etc). They have

daytime and evening sessions and run the program every other month.

Jacki

> Jacki,

>

> About how long is each session, and how many sessions in your

> program?

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Jacki,

Sounds exciting but I'm not too sure my mom will be thrilled

especially b/c of the foot dr. I had told her and told her that

she needs to have a foot dr take care of her feet such as nail

cutting but she doesn't do that. She files her nails. As for

the kind of shoes that is a different story but I know that she

doesn't think that a foot dr is important.

As for the stress, well, I've been telling her that I think it's

a good idea that she see a therapist to help her with her

feelings about Diabetes.

Right now she's willing to take this seriously (as of today) but

I don't know how long this will last. I hope that it will last

a long time so that she can take better care of herself.

As for a specialized meal plan, great idea and has been to a

dietician twice and it didn't do much good except for the one to

tell her that it's ok for her to enjoy things just do it in

moderation which I agree with.

The nurse at the hospital told me in front of mom that a normal

blood sugar for her is going to be at about 150 and yet she's a

Type 2 Diabetic.

Yes, this is a disease one has to learn a lot about.

Thanks a lot for the info.

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Hoping to be a nurse soon but for now just a Medical Secretary who does a lot of

learning from reading on the Net, books, my dr(s), as well as sharing my own

personal experiences.

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---It is much safer for a foot dr. to care for a diabetics feet.

They also find anything else that could be amiss much faster than we

sometimes would. I have been seeing one for several years.

Madge

In diabetes@y..., Kristy Sokoloski <sokokl@y...> wrote:

> Jacki,

>

> Sounds exciting but I'm not too sure my mom will be thrilled

> especially b/c of the foot dr. I had told her and told her that

> she needs to have a foot dr take care of her feet such as nail

> cutting but she doesn't do that. She files her nails. As for

> the kind of shoes that is a different story but I know that she

> doesn't think that a foot dr is important.

>

> As for the stress, well, I've been telling her that I think it's

> a good idea that she see a therapist to help her with her

> feelings about Diabetes.

>

> Right now she's willing to take this seriously (as of today) but

> I don't know how long this will last. I hope that it will last

> a long time so that she can take better care of herself.

>

> As for a specialized meal plan, great idea and has been to a

> dietician twice and it didn't do much good except for the one to

> tell her that it's ok for her to enjoy things just do it in

> moderation which I agree with.

>

> The nurse at the hospital told me in front of mom that a normal

> blood sugar for her is going to be at about 150 and yet she's a

> Type 2 Diabetic.

>

> Yes, this is a disease one has to learn a lot about.

>

> Thanks a lot for the info.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =====

> Kristy :)

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/sokokl/kristyspersonalpage.html

>

> Hoping to be a nurse soon but for now just a Medical Secretary who

does a lot of learning from reading on the Net, books, my dr(s), as

well as sharing my own personal experiences.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Madge,

I understand what you are saying. I understand b/c it makes

sense but my mom is not going to agree to go to a foot dr no

matter what.

I think that it's a good idea to go to the Diabetes Education

classes and I told mom that if our ins covers it I would go with

her but now I'm having my doubts again.

It was hard enough for me to hear her say that the nurse didn't

tell her that she has to check her blood sugar 4 times a day

when the nurse did indeed tell her that. When she started

keeping the log she only had readings for before each meal and I

had to remind her about that 4th time.

It's going to take some time for this to sink in even though she

realizes now that she has to take better care of herself. I

just hope she will see that eventually she really should go to a

foot dr as well even though she's not cutting her own nails.

She doesn't cut her nails. She files them only. Is this

acceptable?

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Hoping to be a nurse soon but for now just a Medical Secretary who does a lot of

learning from reading on the Net, books, my dr(s), as well as sharing my own

personal experiences.

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--- The problem can come with any nails that become ingrown and

sometimes we don't feel the pain from that. The feet do have to be

checked daily by us or by someone who can see well. Also a blister or

small crack can form in the feet and become infected. Infection is

something a diabetic doesn't want especially in the feet area.

Diabetics usually take longer to heal than non-diabetics. I have the

problem with ingrown nails on the large toes. The last infection I

had started so quickly that by the time I got to the doc it required

half the nail to be cut out. I went the next day and that fast it

became a big problem.

I understand getting your Mom to do all this at seemingly a rather

fast pace is upsetting and unsettling to her. I guess one step at a

time is better for her and you are doing a great job at helping her

understand everything. Hard to comprehend so much all at once. It

can be mind boggling. If your Mom has neuropathy in her feet then I

would really tell you to coax her into seeing a foot dr but if she

has the proper feelings in her feet then she may be ok for now. Just

have her get into the habit of checking the feet daily and if she

can't do it, either you or someone should keep watch on it.

The feet should be moisturized but not between the toes. Important

to keep the feet free from becoming dry when cracking skin would be

open to infections also. Proper fitting shoes are important.

Prevents blisters.

Madge

In diabetes@y..., Kristy Sokoloski <sokokl@y...> wrote:

> > I understand what you are saying. I understand b/c it makes

> sense but my mom is not going to agree to go to a foot dr no

> matter what.

>

> I think that it's a good idea to go to the Diabetes Education

> classes and I told mom that if our ins covers it I would go with

> her but now I'm having my doubts again.

>

> It was hard enough for me to hear her say that the nurse didn't

> tell her that she has to check her blood sugar 4 times a day

> when the nurse did indeed tell her that. When she started

> keeping the log she only had readings for before each meal and I

> had to remind her about that 4th time.

>

> It's going to take some time for this to sink in even though she

> realizes now that she has to take better care of herself. I

> just hope she will see that eventually she really should go to a

> foot dr as well even though she's not cutting her own nails.

> She doesn't cut her nails. She files them only. Is this

> acceptable?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =====

> Kristy :)

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/sokokl/kristyspersonalpage.html

>

> Hoping to be a nurse soon but for now just a Medical Secretary who

does a lot of learning from reading on the Net, books, my dr(s), as

well as sharing my own personal experiences.

>

> __________________________________________________

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Kristy

It's great that you are so involved with your mom and helping her

deal with diabetes. She's fortunate to have you.

They mentioned in our class that we should file/clip our nails

straight across rather than in a curved shape, as this lessens the

likelihood of ingrown toe nails. We could go to a doctor to do this

for us if we had trouble with our feet or unusually thick toe nails

or problems seeing, etc. Otherwise, they said we were fine to do it

at home. If your mom is having trouble coping with the changes that

diabetes forces her to make her in life, maybe filing her own toe

nails isn't such a bad idea... maybe it gives her something,

psychologically speaking, that is important. You know?

Jacki

> Jacki,

>

> Sounds exciting but I'm not too sure my mom will be thrilled

> especially b/c of the foot dr. I had told her and told her that

> she needs to have a foot dr take care of her feet such as nail

> cutting but she doesn't do that. She files her nails. As for

> the kind of shoes that is a different story but I know that she

> doesn't think that a foot dr is important.

>

> As for the stress, well, I've been telling her that I think it's

> a good idea that she see a therapist to help her with her

> feelings about Diabetes.

>

> Right now she's willing to take this seriously (as of today) but

> I don't know how long this will last. I hope that it will last

> a long time so that she can take better care of herself.

>

> As for a specialized meal plan, great idea and has been to a

> dietician twice and it didn't do much good except for the one to

> tell her that it's ok for her to enjoy things just do it in

> moderation which I agree with.

>

> The nurse at the hospital told me in front of mom that a normal

> blood sugar for her is going to be at about 150 and yet she's a

> Type 2 Diabetic.

>

> Yes, this is a disease one has to learn a lot about.

>

> Thanks a lot for the info.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =====

> Kristy :)

>

>

> http://www.geocities.com/sokokl/kristyspersonalpage.html

>

> Hoping to be a nurse soon but for now just a Medical Secretary who

does a lot of learning from reading on the Net, books, my dr(s), as

well as sharing my own personal experiences.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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,

That's why I don't keep after her to take her meds and all that

anymore other than now to just remind her to take her blood

sugar.

The NP told her today that she really needs to wear shoes around

the house and also be under the care of an NP. Even though I

knew this information already I asked any way so that Mom could

hear it so time will tell.

I can't get frustrated about all this so I have to continue to

be patient by learning all I can on Diabetes and try to teach it

to her patiently too.

The NP was really nice, but thing is that this NP is moving away

so that means that mom will be left with seeing the dr from now

on so the next appt is for July 11th at 2:15.

And they readjusted the meds so we shall see. And so we shall

see what happens.

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learning from reading on the Net, books, my dr(s), as well as sharing my own

personal experiences.

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In a message dated 6/13/2002 8:44:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,

afra3a@... writes:

> They mentioned in our class that we should file/clip our nails

> straight across rather than in a curved shape, as this lessens the

> likelihood of ingrown toe nails. We could go to a doctor to do this

> for us if we had trouble with our feet or unusually thick toe nails

> or problems seeing, etc. Otherwise, they said we were fine to do it

> at home. If your mom is having trouble coping with the changes that

> diabetes forces her to make her in life, maybe filing her own toe

> nails isn't such a bad idea... maybe it gives her something,

> psychologically speaking, that is important. You know?

>

> Jacki

>

you know I was also thinking that you could maybe make it a fun thing. you

know " pamper time " Give each other many pedicures/foot massages.

's daughter - Andreia (who is still waiting to hear from her mom but

at least know she made it to work okay)

People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't

believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people

who get up and look for the circumstances they want and if they can't find

them, make them. - Bernard Shaw

If you want something different, you have to do something different.

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I keep hearing about not rounding the toe nails but I really

have to on my big toes. My big toes are quite squished and

curved toward the next toes. I think my shoes were often

too small for me when I was little. As a result, there is a

big callus on the outside of the toe from knuckle up around

the end of my toe. If I cut the nail straight, it just

grows right into the callus and hurts like heck! I have to

shape them so there is no 'corner' toe nail to grow into the

callus.

My hands aren't too good anymore and I finally bought a

Homedics Manicure set and use the heavier round file to file

my toe nails and the smoother to buff them and keep hang

nails away. There is also a callus something (cone shaped

and rough metal) that I am using very lightly on the

calluses on my feet. It seems to be softening them and

reducing the size a little at a time. Anyway, the electric

one doesn't bother my hands hardly at all and I take much

better care of my feet as a result. It was $19.99 at Sam's.

grangran01@... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/13/2002 8:44:26 AM Pacific Standard

> Time,

> afra3a@... writes:

>

>

> > They mentioned in our class that we should file/clip our

> nails

> > straight across rather than in a curved shape, as this

> lessens the

> > likelihood of ingrown toe nails. We could go to a doctor

> to do this

> > for us if we had trouble with our feet or unusually

> thick toe nails

> > or problems seeing, etc. Otherwise, they said we were

> fine to do it

> > at home. If your mom is having trouble coping with the

> changes that

> > diabetes forces her to make her in life, maybe filing

> her own toe

> > nails isn't such a bad idea... maybe it gives her

> something,

> > psychologically speaking, that is important. You know?

> >

> > Jacki

> >

>

> you know I was also thinking that you could maybe make it

> a fun thing. you

> know " pamper time " Give each other many pedicures/foot

> massages.

>

> 's daughter - Andreia (who is still waiting to

> hear from her mom but

> at least know she made it to work okay)

>

> People are always blaming their circumstances for what

> they are. I don't

> believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this

> world are the people

> who get up and look for the circumstances they want and if

> they can't find

> them, make them. - Bernard Shaw

>

> If you want something different, you have to do something

> different.

>

>

>

>

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