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Hey, i am not a type 2 or a type 1, yes i am fat, not due to any thing i did,

but due to medical neglgence on my mothers part, and guess what i am the 5

genration of diabetics in my family, 1.great great great grandmother, great

great grandfather, great grandmother, grandfather, mother, me, my brother has

always been thin and he was diagnoised type 2 adult onset 5 years ago. hes 40

now so yes i do know at least 1 very thin type 2, and have pics of the others,

there are only 3 of us that are fat. so i have to say your wrong about all type

2's being fat, and it being their falt. do to over indulgence.

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How many type 2 diabetics do you know that were diagnosed while thin?? Are

you saying that obesity has nothing to do with type 2 diabetes.... Sure

there is a genetic predisposition for type 2......... but I seriously doubt

you see very many type 2's of a normal healthy weight!!!!!In fact I bet you

never see it!!!.... yes never......

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> How many type 2 diabetics do you know that were diagnosed while thin??

**I was. And yes, I'm type 2, although not syndrome X. I still have

pancreas function, and was at my ideal weight of 120# at dx. I'm a bit over

that now from winter, and losing it. I do find I need to be a little extra

diligent on insulin about weight gain, especially in the winter, but I love

the tight control.

Barb

Type 2, insulin, 5'4 " , 123#, hard work, mod. (100) carbs

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brittle adolesant diabetic, diagnosed under the age of 20 in my case i was 14,

in simple english

my pancrious, just flat dose not work right, it gives me insulin when i don't

need it and dose not give the insulin when i do, i have extream highs and lows,

say i can be 447 and then all of the sudden i can drop down to 25 with or with

out the insulin. yesterday for example, woke up at 81 then even before i ate and

after i had taken all my meds and shot, i spiked up 226, then droped down to 40

all with then an hour and a half.

this on my part for me, as explained, is i went years without thyroid hormons t3

and t4, so it in turn messed up my whole metabolic system.

example, sorry fellas, my left side of my chest has no mamory glands, my right

side on the other hand is all there. the cause is i had no thyroid function,

from age 8 till age 22 so i did not develope during poberty, right.

glenna

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>

>

> How many type 2 diabetics do you know that were diagnosed while thin??

>Are

> you saying that obesity has nothing to do with type 2 diabetes.... Sure

> there is a genetic predisposition for type 2......... but I seriously

>doubt

> you see very many type 2's of a normal healthy weight!!!!!In fact I bet

>you

> never see it!!!.... yes never......

>

>

>

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yes i do have quite a few scary lows, yes i am on insulin 45units of humlin nph

or some call it n, its slow acting and last me 24hrs most of the time

i am also on actos this is my 2nd week on that and was just put on lipitor 1day

after the actos

have been low carbing for about 2-3 months

more strongly the last 2weeks. i have to have someone with me at all times

during the transitions of meds because my lows are so low

i have only passed out once because of a low

and been in a coma for two weeks because of high sugar, i was 17yrs old and my

mother still refused to keep me on meds she sit and watched me have extreamly

pain ful cycles and be sick. i was in time able to conceve and have children,

labor was a breaze comparied to the pain of my cycles.

glenna

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>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:47:29 -0500

>

>brittle adolesant diabetic, diagnosed under the age of 20 in my case i was

>14, in simple english

>my pancrious, just flat dose not work right, it gives me insulin when i

>don't need it and dose not give the insulin when i do, i have extream highs

>and lows, say i can be 447 and then all of the sudden i can drop down to 25

>with or with out the insulin. yesterday for example, woke up at 81 then

>even before i ate and after i had taken all my meds and shot, i spiked up

>226, then droped down to 40 all with then an hour and a half.

>this on my part for me, as explained, is i went years without thyroid

>hormons t3 and t4, so it in turn messed up my whole metabolic system.

>example, sorry fellas, my left side of my chest has no mamory glands, my

>right side on the other hand is all there. the cause is i had no thyroid

>function, from age 8 till age 22 so i did not develope during poberty,

>right.

>glenna

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In a message dated 01-04-02 13:46:24 EDT, you write:

<< labor was a breaze comparied to the pain of my cycles. >>

Glenna, hate to throw another disease at you but very often painful cycles

are an indicator of endometriosis... (and this can be fixed surgically)

...Vicki

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am hoping in time that indeed will happen but i know it will take some time

glenna

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>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:27:19 -0500

>

>yes i do have quite a few scary lows, yes i am on insulin 45units of humlin

>nph or some call it n, its slow acting and last me 24hrs most of the time

>i am also on actos this is my 2nd week on that and was just put on lipitor

>1day after the actos

>have been low carbing for about 2-3 months

>more strongly the last 2weeks. i have to have someone with me at all times

>during the transitions of meds because my lows are so low

>i have only passed out once because of a low

>and been in a coma for two weeks because of high sugar, i was 17yrs old and

>my mother still refused to keep me on meds she sit and watched me have

>extreamly pain ful cycles and be sick. i was in time able to conceve and

>have children, labor was a breaze comparied to the pain of my cycles.

>glenna

>http://www.geocities.com/barnie_64/FAMILY.html

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Vicki, that was before dr. put me on thyroid pills, have had 3 children 1 born

asleep, 2living, i no long have painful cycles and am the last few years of

menophase yippie harray. never ever have i had an operation. but thank you for

the info

glenna :)

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In a message dated 01-04-02 13:46:24 EDT, you write:

<< labor was a breaze comparied to the pain of my cycles. >>

Glenna, hate to throw another disease at you but very often painful cycles

are an indicator of endometriosis... (and this can be fixed surgically)

..Vicki

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i went to one of the top endrocronologists in the usa

and she says there is only type 1 and type 2

--- Joan ston wrote:

> Hi Glenna,

> I'm confused. I thought all diabetics were either

> type 1 or type 2. If

> you're not t1 or t2 then what else is there?

>

> joan >^^< t1

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: diabetes_int

> >To: <diabetes_int >

> >Subject: Re: not all type 2's are

> fat

> >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:27:26 -0500

> >

> >Hey, i am not a type 2 or a type 1, yes i am fat,

> not due to any thing i

> >did, but due to medical neglgence on my mothers

> part, and guess what i am

> >the 5 genration of diabetics in my family, 1.great

> great great grandmother,

> >great great grandfather, great grandmother,

> grandfather, mother, me, my

> >brother has always been thin and he was diagnoised

> type 2 adult onset 5

> >years ago. hes 40 now so yes i do know at least 1

> very thin type 2, and

> >have pics of the others, there are only 3 of us

> that are fat. so i have to

> >say your wrong about all type 2's being fat, and it

> being their falt. do to

> >over indulgence.

> >glenna

> >http://www.geocities.com/barnie_64/FAMILY.html

> > Re: A Mean Post........

> (maybe)

> >

> >

> > How many type 2 diabetics do you know that were

> diagnosed while thin??

> >Are

> > you saying that obesity has nothing to do with

> type 2 diabetes.... Sure

> > there is a genetic predisposition for type

> 2......... but I seriously

> >doubt

> > you see very many type 2's of a normal healthy

> weight!!!!!In fact I bet

> >you

> > never see it!!!.... yes never......

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

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gail owens wrote:

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> i went to one of the top endrocronologists in the usa

> and she says there is only type 1 and type 2

She needs to return to school and re-educate herself. She is *way*

behind the times.

> --- Joan ston wrote:

> > Hi Glenna,

> > I'm confused. I thought all diabetics were either

> > type 1 or type 2. If

> > you're not t1 or t2 then what else is there?

> >

> > joan >^^< t1

> >

> >

> > >

> > >Reply-To: diabetes_int

> > >To: <diabetes_int >

> > >Subject: Re: not all type 2's are

> > fat

> > >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:27:26 -0500

> > >

> > >Hey, i am not a type 2 or a type 1, yes i am fat,

> > not due to any thing i

> > >did, but due to medical neglgence on my mothers

> > part, and guess what i am

> > >the 5 genration of diabetics in my family, 1.great

> > great great grandmother,

> > >great great grandfather, great grandmother,

> > grandfather, mother, me, my

> > >brother has always been thin and he was diagnoised

> > type 2 adult onset 5

> > >years ago. hes 40 now so yes i do know at least 1

> > very thin type 2, and

> > >have pics of the others, there are only 3 of us

> > that are fat. so i have to

> > >say your wrong about all type 2's being fat, and it

> > being their falt. do to

> > >over indulgence.

> > >glenna

> > >http://www.geocities.com/barnie_64/FAMILY.html

> > > Re: A Mean Post........

> > (maybe)

> > >

> > >

> > > How many type 2 diabetics do you know that were

> > diagnosed while thin??

> > >Are

> > > you saying that obesity has nothing to do with

> > type 2 diabetes.... Sure

> > > there is a genetic predisposition for type

> > 2......... but I seriously

> > >doubt

> > > you see very many type 2's of a normal healthy

> > weight!!!!!In fact I bet

> > >you

> > > never see it!!!.... yes never......

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

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thanks dave o, cause i just did not know how to answer the post, because i know

that i am a messed up diabetic for i am not tecnally(sp) type1 or type2, would

fall into both catagorys sorta but not really. you know me i just have to be

different. :)

glenna

http://www.geocities.com/barnie_64/FAMILY.html

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> > (maybe)

> > >

> > >

> > > How many type 2 diabetics do you know that were

> > diagnosed while thin??

> > >Are

> > > you saying that obesity has nothing to do with

> > type 2 diabetes.... Sure

> > > there is a genetic predisposition for type

> > 2......... but I seriously

> > >doubt

> > > you see very many type 2's of a normal healthy

> > weight!!!!!In fact I bet

> > >you

> > > never see it!!!.... yes never......

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

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child hood diabetic, brittle adolessant diabetic, yes that is a catigory, type 2

was onset adult diabetic, on non-insulin dependant diabetic, but as you see many

on the list are type 2 insulin dependant to keep bg levels in check. and also

there is gestational diabetics, which is a catigory i feel into 3 times. lets

put this to rest the medical commity has lots to learn as we all do. being

diabetic is a tricky indivulized deaseas(sp) you really can't catigorize it.

sorry

ps: please forgive the spelling, its not a strong suit.

glenna

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> (maybe)

> >

> >

> > How many type 2 diabetics do you know that were

> diagnosed while thin??

> >Are

> > you saying that obesity has nothing to do with

> type 2 diabetes.... Sure

> > there is a genetic predisposition for type

> 2......... but I seriously

> >doubt

> > you see very many type 2's of a normal healthy

> weight!!!!!In fact I bet

> >you

> > never see it!!!.... yes never......

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

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That's not different. I am type 1 but follow a type 2 with no insulin. They

based my " typing " on my age and ADA. Lot's of people fall in that kind of

catagory. Bobbie

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