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---Hi lou,

My husband has kidney disease. He was recently hospitalized with a

low heart rate due to a high volumn of not only heart meds but

potassium being kept in his system. He was not eliminating either.

Potassium either to high or to low can be fatal.

Broccoli is high in potassium. He is restricted on all high level

potassium foods which include, brussel sprouts, celery, lima beans,

beans, pumpkin, parsnips, spinich,tomato in all forms, radishes,

sauerkraut, winter squash. Also includes, Colas, orange soda, brewed

coffee, canned milk, buttermilk, wheat and rye bread, all pastries,

pancaskes, french toast, waffles, french toast, yeast breads,

custard, grapenuts, shredded wheat, wheaties, all whole rain or bran

cereal, cookies, pies, all dried fruits, bananas, cantaloupe,

grapefruit, honeydew, nectarines, oranges, apricots, potatoes,

spaghetti, pizza, chololate.

I think the can have list is shorter!

We were shopping last week and he wanted mushrooms and I said no,

they are on the banned list, but I have just noticed I was wrong and

he can have them so he will be happy to hear that! I still haven't

memorized this list entirely and have to refer to it often. Should

make copies so I have one in my pocketbook when shopping.

Madge

In diabetes@y..., MLCamp5574@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/6/02 6:45:06 PM Central Daylight Time,

madge910@a...

> writes:

>

>

> > He won't touch the

> > cauliflower and broccoli is off limits to him anyway.

> >

>

> Madge, I was just wondering why broccoli is off limits for your

husband. I

> recently read when taking coumadin, you shouldn't eat brocolli or

take

> Vitamin E. I'm like the Enquirer, " I just want to know " Thanks,

Lou

>

>

>

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---My husband was on coumadin a while ago, off it now, but the only

restriction I recall is aspirin. There weren't any foods that he

couldn't eat. He is restricted on all minerals now and now is even

off the vitamins. Have to check with the kidney dr on the vitamins.

The primary took him off them.

Always have your husband double check on the dosage if the dr changes

it so there are no misunderstandings on his part. We went through a

near crisis with that one when my husband misunderstood what the dr

said when the meds were changed before a new script was written. I

tell ya, been through the mill here!!!!!!! He ended up having to

take a couple of doses of vitamin K to get the blood thickened up

again. Luckily, it was caught before severe damage was done.

Madge

In diabetes@y..., MLCamp5574@a... wrote:

> Thanks for the info. My husband is on coumadin and I read that

they

> shouldn't have broccoli or Vitamin E. Thanks again, Lou

>

>

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Madge, I have a list of all his medicines and vitamins plus all the doctors

with their addresses and telephone numbers listed. Also, on same page is a

list of all the surgeries he has had with dates I have included all medicines

he is allergic to. I keep it saved in the computer and I make all changes

that the doctors give on prescriptions. I update the date of the list when I

make a change on prescriptions. When he goes to the doctor he takes a copy

of this information with him and the nurses are really impressed. They

really appreciate the list. I, also, keep a list like this for myself. When

you take so many, its hard to try and remember them plus his to. Lou

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Thanks for sharing that tidbit about broccoli and coumadin, Lou. My dad

*loathes* broccoli and we tease him mercilessly when Mom cooks it. I can't

wait until Sunday: " Happy Father's Day, Pop! You're off the hook with the

broccoli--you're not *supposed* to eat it! " :)

Now if we could just get him to stop tormenting the cat... I'm convinced

she's gonna scratch him one of these days and send him to the emergency

room...

Peace,

Willie

>From: MLCamp5574@...

>Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:15:00 EDT

>

>Madge, I was just wondering why broccoli is off limits for your husband. I

>recently read when taking coumadin, you shouldn't eat brocolli or take

>Vitamin E. I'm like the Enquirer, " I just want to know " Thanks, Lou

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Hi Madge. Don't forget dates. More potassium per bite than

almost anything else!

madge910 wrote:

> ---Hi lou,

> My husband has kidney disease. He was recently

> hospitalized with a

> low heart rate due to a high volumn of not only heart meds

> but

> potassium being kept in his system. He was not

> eliminating either.

> Potassium either to high or to low can be fatal.

> Broccoli is high in potassium. He is restricted on all

> high level

> potassium foods which include, brussel sprouts, celery,

> lima beans,

> beans, pumpkin, parsnips, spinich,tomato in all forms,

> radishes,

> sauerkraut, winter squash. Also includes, Colas, orange

> soda, brewed

> coffee, canned milk, buttermilk, wheat and rye bread, all

> pastries,

> pancaskes, french toast, waffles, french toast, yeast

> breads,

> custard, grapenuts, shredded wheat, wheaties, all whole

> rain or bran

> cereal, cookies, pies, all dried fruits, bananas,

> cantaloupe,

> grapefruit, honeydew, nectarines, oranges, apricots,

> potatoes,

> spaghetti, pizza, chololate.

> I think the can have list is shorter!

>

> We were shopping last week and he wanted mushrooms and I

> said no,

> they are on the banned list, but I have just noticed I was

> wrong and

> he can have them so he will be happy to hear that! I

> still haven't

> memorized this list entirely and have to refer to it

> often. Should

> make copies so I have one in my pocketbook when shopping.

> Madge

>

> In diabetes@y..., MLCamp5574@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 6/6/02 6:45:06 PM Central Daylight

> Time,

> madge910@a...

> > writes:

> >

> >

> > > He won't touch the

> > > cauliflower and broccoli is off limits to him anyway.

> > >

> >

> > Madge, I was just wondering why broccoli is off limits

> for your

> husband. I

> > recently read when taking coumadin, you shouldn't eat

> brocolli or

> take

> > Vitamin E. I'm like the Enquirer, " I just want to

> know " Thanks,

> Lou

> >

> >

> >

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--That's a great idea of having it all in the computer. I have it

written down since it goes to the ER if we need to go.

However, the time the error was made, it was based on

misunderstanding because the dr did not write down the instructions

and he got it mixed up. I went to his appointments with him after

that and made sure everything was written down if being changed for

whatever the reason. So many meds with different dosages can make

one nuts! And when dosages are changed midstream makes one even

nutsier!

One time the kidney dr prescribed a med ( I forget which one now, I

think it was one for the BP) The dr had the complete list of all the

meds he was currently on. However, turned out the one he prescribed

was the exact same thing as one he was already on. Different name,

different pharmaceutical. Thank goodness the pharmacist caught it.

Maybe the Dr. should have known it was the same drug, but with all

the drug and drug companies I imagine something can get lost along

the way unintentionally. It happens. Not a good thing, but still

happens. These are things that are hopefully caught before any

damage is done. Had I gone to a different drug store to have it

filled, would not have known. I try to have everything filled at the

same drugstore where I know the pharmacist and they know us. I am

trying to learn more about the medications and know side effects,

etc. Sometimes I get really overwhelmed by it all.

I had to play detective when his blood pressure was way up for no

apparent reason. Wouldn't come down even on an increase of meds.

Traced it back to the med for arthritis. Slow incline of bp from

when he started taking it. He had to stop taking it. Feel like a

guinea pig at times. A med works great for one ailment but plays

havoc and causes another problem.

I have to say since he has been off the heart meds though, he has had

much more energy, does not tire as easily either. BIg difference.

Not sure if its good or bad he is off it but I like this respite we

have been given. It's been like a new lease on life. Of course the

reason he had to go off that is as I told you previously, his body

was not releasing it along with the potassium and caused a really big

problem. So we go one day at a time and try to enjoy every day to

the fullest.

madge

- In diabetes@y..., MLCamp5574@a... wrote:

> Madge, I have a list of all his medicines and vitamins plus all the

doctors

> with their addresses and telephone numbers listed. Also, on same

page is a

> list of all the surgeries he has had with dates I have included all

medicines

> he is allergic to. I keep it saved in the computer and I make all

changes

> that the doctors give on prescriptions. I update the date of the

list when I

> make a change on prescriptions. When he goes to the doctor he

takes a copy

> of this information with him and the nurses are really impressed.

They

> really appreciate the list. I, also, keep a list like this for

myself. When

> you take so many, its hard to try and remember them plus his to.

Lou

>

>

>

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--You are correct, no dates, no dried fruit at all including raisins

but he never ate those things before so not a problem.

madge

- In diabetes@y..., Dawson <shiningmoon@e...> wrote:

> Hi Madge. Don't forget dates. More potassium per bite than

> almost anything else!

>

>

> madge910 wrote:

>

> > ---Hi lou,

> > My husband has kidney disease. He was recently

> > hospitalized with a

> > low heart rate due to a high volumn of not only heart meds

> > but

> > potassium being kept in his system. He was not

> > eliminating either.

> > Potassium either to high or to low can be fatal.

> > Broccoli is high in potassium. He is restricted on all

> > high level

> > potassium foods which include, brussel sprouts, celery,

> > lima beans,

> > beans, pumpkin, parsnips, spinich,tomato in all forms,

> > radishes,

> > sauerkraut, winter squash. Also includes, Colas, orange

> > soda, brewed

> > coffee, canned milk, buttermilk, wheat and rye bread, all

> > pastries,

> > pancaskes, french toast, waffles, french toast, yeast

> > breads,

> > custard, grapenuts, shredded wheat, wheaties, all whole

> > rain or bran

> > cereal, cookies, pies, all dried fruits, bananas,

> > cantaloupe,

> > grapefruit, honeydew, nectarines, oranges, apricots,

> > potatoes,

> > spaghetti, pizza, chololate.

> > I think the can have list is shorter!

> >

> > We were shopping last week and he wanted mushrooms and I

> > said no,

> > they are on the banned list, but I have just noticed I was

> > wrong and

> > he can have them so he will be happy to hear that! I

> > still haven't

> > memorized this list entirely and have to refer to it

> > often. Should

> > make copies so I have one in my pocketbook when shopping.

> > Madge

> >

> > In diabetes@y..., MLCamp5574@a... wrote:

> > > In a message dated 6/6/02 6:45:06 PM Central Daylight

> > Time,

> > madge910@a...

> > > writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > > He won't touch the

> > > > cauliflower and broccoli is off limits to him anyway.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Madge, I was just wondering why broccoli is off limits

> > for your

> > husband. I

> > > recently read when taking coumadin, you shouldn't eat

> > brocolli or

> > take

> > > Vitamin E. I'm like the Enquirer, " I just want to

> > know " Thanks,

> > Lou

> > >

> > >

> > >

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