Guest guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Does anyone have experience with pertussis (whooping cough) triggering neurological issues? I suspect that's what's happening to 2 of my kids. The oldest's cough was never so bad that we took him to a doctor, but the onset of the cough closely maps to the onset of his outrageous panic attacks. My 5 year old was the sickest and his seizures increased and his behavior deteriorated with the cough. And it is a brutal cough. I guess it's another infection to throw the system off. Any links or tips appreciated. Thanks, Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 jilll, i don`t have experience treating that myself, but l have read that for issues attaining lung problems, infections, there are few things as effective as a nebulized iodine. l understand the best nebulizer in the market is aeroneb go (google it). Dr k recommends this method also for nebulizing other remedies like glutathione, or homeopathical remedies. hope your children get better soon. lsa--- El lun 21-jun-10, Jill escribió: De: Jill Asunto: PertussisA: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Fecha: lunes, 21 de junio de 2010, 18:26 Does anyone have experience with pertussis (whooping cough) triggering neurological issues? I suspect that's what's happening to 2 of my kids. The oldest's cough was never so bad that we took him to a doctor, but the onset of the cough closely maps to the onset of his outrageous panic attacks. My 5 year old was the sickest and his seizures increased and his behavior deteriorated with the cough. And it is a brutal cough.I guess it's another infection to throw the system off. Any links or tips appreciated.Thanks, Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Jill, I think that doing a round of anti-inflammatory protocol can be helpful. Pertussis releases a specific peptidoglycan fragment known as tracheal cytotoxin (TCT) that reproduces the respiratory epithelial cytoplathology of whooping cough. TCT triggers production of intracellular IL-1 and induces nitric oxide synthesis in the respiratory epithelium. Elevated IL-1 can cause neurodegeneration. Things that can inhibit IL-1 will also have a neuroprotective effect. Researches have shown that overproduction or inappropriate generation of nitric oxide triggered neurological disorders in subject with vitamin B12 deficiency. NO and its toxic metabolite, peroxynitrite, can inhibit components of the mitochondrial respiratory chain. Increased or inappropriate NO formation can contribute to energy depletion and neuronal cell death. Also, Pertussis binds with sulfur and feeds on cysteine to deplete sulfur nutrients needed by the body in order to detox. Detoxify the body with homeopathic Sulfa can help with the body's uptake of sulfur nutrients. About 3 years ago, we followed Dr. LC's LED protocol to detox sulfa first before detoxifying Pertussis toxins. Hope this helps a little. Limin -- http://www.healthbylimin.com/ Young Living Distributor # 1111136 " Follow those who seek the truth, but flee from those who have found it. " -- Unknown origin > Does anyone have experience with pertussis (whooping cough) triggering neurological issues? I suspect that's what's happening to 2 of my kids. The oldest's cough was never so bad that we took him to a doctor, but the onset of the cough closely maps to the onset of his outrageous panic attacks. My 5 year old was the sickest and his seizures increased and his behavior deteriorated with the cough. And it is a brutal cough. > > I guess it's another infection to throw the system off. Any links or tips appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jill > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thanks so much. I've had limited access to the computer and really appreciate this. I did find an article about pertussis infection and whole cell pertussis vaccine triggering Th1 reaction, while acellular vaccine triggers Th2. Since my kids are already skewed to Th2--all kinds of allergies--I wonder what this means.I need to get my hands on Pall's book about NO-ONOO and start unraveling this latest setback from there. JillSent via BlackBerry by AT&TSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:45:00 -0700To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Pertussis Jill,I think that doing a round of anti-inflammatory protocol can be helpful. Pertussis releases a specific peptidoglycan fragment known as tracheal cytotoxin (TCT) that reproduces the respiratory epithelial cytoplathology of whooping cough. TCT triggers production of intracellular IL-1 and induces nitric oxide synthesis in the respiratory epithelium. Elevated IL-1 can cause neurodegeneration. Things that can inhibit IL-1 will also have a neuroprotective effect. Researches have shown that overproduction or inappropriate generation of nitric oxide triggered neurological disorders in subject with vitamin B12 deficiency. NO and its toxic metabolite, peroxynitrite, can inhibit components of the mitochondrial respiratory chain. Increased or inappropriate NO formation can contribute to energy depletion and neuronal cell death.Also, Pertussis binds with sulfur and feeds on cysteine to deplete sulfur nutrients needed by the body in order to detox. Detoxify the body with homeopathic Sulfa can help with the body's uptake of sulfur nutrients. About 3 years ago, we followed Dr. LC's LED protocol to detox sulfa first before detoxifying Pertussis toxins.Hope this helps a little.Limin--http://www.healthbylimin.com/Young Living Distributor # 1111136 " Follow those who seek the truth,but flee from those who have found it. " -- Unknown origin> Does anyone have experience with pertussis (whooping cough) triggering neurological issues? I suspect that's what's happening to 2 of my kids. The oldest's cough was never so bad that we took him to a doctor, but the onset of the cough closely maps to the onset of his outrageous panic attacks. My 5 year old was the sickest and his seizures increased and his behavior deteriorated with the cough. And it is a brutal cough.> > I guess it's another infection to throw the system off. Any links or tips appreciated.> > Thanks, > > Jill> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Do you refer to Pall's book, Explaining "unexplained Illnesses"? My son has homozygous mutation on NOS (Nitric Oxide Synthase). I should get hold of this book to give it a good read, but it is a very expensive book.The article published in International Immunology below suggests pertussis toxin triggers both Th1 and Th2 responses. It stimulates the production of IFN-y and IL-2 by naive T cells and IL-1 by macrophages. IL-1 induces a Th2 response, while the influence of IFN-y triggers a Th1 response. Pertussis toxin for sure makes the immune system very busy, if not confused.http://intimm.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/10/5/651.pdfLiminOn Jun 22, 2010, at 01:28 AM, jillrege@... wrote:Thanks so much. I've had limited access to the computer and really appreciate this. I did find an article about pertussis infection and whole cell pertussis vaccine triggering Th1 reaction, while acellular vaccine triggers Th2. Since my kids are already skewed to Th2--all kinds of allergies--I wonder what this means.I need to get my hands on Pall's book about NO-ONOO and start unraveling this latest setback from there. JillSent via BlackBerry by AT & TSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:45:00 -0700To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: PertussisJill,I think that doing a round of anti-inflammatory protocol can be helpful. Pertussis releases a specific peptidoglycan fragment known as tracheal cytotoxin (TCT) that reproduces the respiratory epithelial cytoplathology of whooping cough. TCT triggers production of intracellular IL-1 and induces nitric oxide synthesis in the respiratory epithelium. Elevated IL-1 can cause neurodegeneration. Things that can inhibit IL-1 will also have a neuroprotective effect. Researches have shown that overproduction or inappropriate generation of nitric oxide triggered neurological disorders in subject with vitamin B12 deficiency. NO and its toxic metabolite, peroxynitrite, can inhibit components of the mitochondrial respiratory chain. Increased or inappropriate NO formation can contribute to energy depletion and neuronal cell death.Also, Pertussis binds with sulfur and feeds on cysteine to deplete sulfur nutrients needed by the body in order to detox. Detoxify the body with homeopathic Sulfa can help with the body's uptake of sulfur nutrients. About 3 years ago, we followed Dr. LC's LED protocol to detox sulfa first before detoxifying Pertussis toxins.Hope this helps a little.Limin--http://www.healthbylimin.com/Young Living Distributor # 1111136"Follow those who seek the truth,but flee from those who have found it."-- Unknown origin> Does anyone have experience with pertussis (whooping cough) triggering neurological issues? I suspect that's what's happening to 2 of my kids. The oldest's cough was never so bad that we took him to a doctor, but the onset of the cough closely maps to the onset of his outrageous panic attacks. My 5 year old was the sickest and his seizures increased and his behavior deteriorated with the cough. And it is a brutal cough.> > I guess it's another infection to throw the system off. Any links or tips appreciated.> > Thanks, > > Jill> > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Bacterial infections triggering PANDAS/OCD/Anxiety issues yes There is a whooping cough epidemic apparently going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Hi Jill, In homeopathy circles, you can use drosera to reduce the nastiness of the " whooping type " cough, I used it with my son a few yrs ago, and was amazed, I had the 30C strength, and just gave another dose whenever he got the feral cough. He was sick for over 3 wks but the cough was in check within a few days. There are also other remedies you can use for the anxiety whilst ill, and for inflammation, depending on what " fits the picture " . Ainsworth in UK sell a simple kit, there are companies in America who also sell these very affordable kits that can help you get through these interesting periods. na > > Does anyone have experience with pertussis (whooping cough) triggering neurological issues? I suspect that's what's happening to 2 of my kids. The oldest's cough was never so bad that we took him to a doctor, but the onset of the cough closely maps to the onset of his outrageous panic attacks. My 5 year old was the sickest and his seizures increased and his behavior deteriorated with the cough. And it is a brutal cough. > > I guess it's another infection to throw the system off. Any links or tips appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Thanks. I love drosera. It saved me from antibiotics and steroids this winter--the first time in 5 yrs. Unfortunately it did nothing for the kid's whooping cough. One holistic doc told me it works great at the very beginning and I probably didn't dose frequently enough or early enough.Meanwhile I tell everyone we come into contact with to get it and to dose early and often.I think our holistic ped uses Ainsworth remedies. I'll ask about a kit. I have a random assortment of things.Thanks,JillSent via BlackBerry by AT&TSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:25:32 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Pertussis Hi Jill,In homeopathy circles, you can use drosera to reduce the nastiness of the " whooping type " cough, I used it with my son a few yrs ago, and was amazed, I had the 30C strength, and just gave another dose whenever he got the feral cough. He was sick for over 3 wks but the cough was in check within a few days.There are also other remedies you can use for the anxiety whilst ill, and for inflammation, depending on what " fits the picture " .Ainsworth in UK sell a simple kit, there are companies in America who also sell these very affordable kits that can help you get through these interesting periods.na>> Does anyone have experience with pertussis (whooping cough) triggering neurological issues? I suspect that's what's happening to 2 of my kids. The oldest's cough was never so bad that we took him to a doctor, but the onset of the cough closely maps to the onset of his outrageous panic attacks. My 5 year old was the sickest and his seizures increased and his behavior deteriorated with the cough. And it is a brutal cough.> > I guess it's another infection to throw the system off. Any links or tips appreciated.> > Thanks, > > Jill> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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