Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 What? You didn't have any time to push before they took such extreme measures? That is horrible! Scaring me to death as I pat my pregnant belly. Not to be graphic but wouldn't it be horrible for your cervix to have such rough and fast handling? My on call doctor was too busy to be bothered with me too but at least he left it up to the nurses and I had a pretty normal delivery just sans any doctor. I'm so sorry that that happened to you! How scary! Natasharowwith <rowwith@...> wrote: Hi, strangers! Sorry I don't get in here often. At work today with absolutely NOTHING TO DO! LOL! Can you believe it? Just listening to last night's sermon from our church, online. Moira is doing well. Her head looks pretty good, still has a little flatness on the back right side, but has rounded out a lot. Still uneven on top, but not quite as much as when we first began. Honestly, ladies, I can't see that she's made much progress in the past several weeks. Went yesterday for her bi-weekly check, and her orthotist said she's getting a lot of rounding on the back and that we just need to get a little more on that right side. Well, the back of her head wasn't flat. I guess I'm a little frustrated, afraid that if we wait to be "graduated", they'll keep this thing on her until she's 2! Well, I'll tell ya', once she outgrows this one, that's it, because her Medicaid ends in November, and my husband is about to start a new contracting job, and we don't have insurance yet, not sure what we're going to be able to afford, might just be catastrophic at first. Whatever we get, I'm sure won't pay for this. Anyway, I'm just a little frustrated, not sure we're going to get anymore correction, but don't want to just quit.Also, my husband and I were discussing the probable cause of the overlapping plates and the unevenness of the top of her head the other day. Maybe it wasn't the vacuum. You know, I pushed for a total of 7 minutes to get her out. Her head was wedged sideways in the birth canal, and with the 2nd contraction, a nurse climbed on top of me and began pushing my belly. (I have the whole thing on video.) Then, with the 3rd contraction, they got the vacuum. The dr. was in a hurry to get to her office, I guess. She was on her way there when she called and found out I was ready to deliver. We began questioning this the other day, when we were with some new people from church that we'd just met, and they were asking about her helmet. I explained the birth process, and one lady was horrified that the nurse pushed her through my belly, especially so soon. She said she had heard they didn't do that anymore, because it can cause injuries. Now, my question is this....why didn't they let her try to move down the birth canal by herself rather than begin pushing on her with the 2nd contraction? I don't remember her heart rate going down, or any other problems that would have prompted them to get her out quickly. I'm picturing this...if her head was cocked to the side and wedged in the birth canal (she had a large head), and they began pushing her through there rather than my body pushing her at a normal rate, yes, I think that could put pressure on one side of her head and perhaps cause the plates to overlap. I think this is a more feasible scenario than the vacuum messing that up. One day, I'm going to sit and write a long letter to that dr. and to that hospital. Probably won't make any difference, but perhaps I should also copy the AMA. Probably still won't make any difference, but it'll make me feel better. One day, when I have time. I guess I have time now! LOL! Anyway, thanks for listening to my frustrations. I'm just so ready for my baby to have this thing off her head! Yes, part of it was my fault, for letting her sleep on my arm, causing a flat spot that just intensified the situation. But, that would have probably been corrected by now, if it wasn't for the rest of the problem. I feel like my baby has lost a normal infancy that she could/should have had. I know there are babies in worse situations than this, so I'm ashamed to be complaining. Can I have a little cheese with my whine?Thanks for listening...or reading, I guess. Hope everyone is well.Caro, Mom of Baby Mo, 10 months old, Doc Banded 5/23/03, then again 7/30/03, Dallas, TX area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Without being too graphic, let's just say my po-po is taking longer to not be in pain during " important moments " than it did with my first child. I never thought about that, but maybe that's why. Caro > Hi, strangers! Sorry I don't get in here often. At work today with > absolutely NOTHING TO DO! LOL! Can you believe it? Just listening > to last night's sermon from our church, online. > > Moira is doing well. Her head looks pretty good, still has a little > flatness on the back right side, but has rounded out a lot. Still > uneven on top, but not quite as much as when we first began. > Honestly, ladies, I can't see that she's made much progress in the > past several weeks. Went yesterday for her bi-weekly check, and her > orthotist said she's getting a lot of rounding on the back and that > we just need to get a little more on that right side. Well, the back > of her head wasn't flat. I guess I'm a little frustrated, afraid > that if we wait to be " graduated " , they'll keep this thing on her > until she's 2! Well, I'll tell ya', once she outgrows this one, > that's it, because her Medicaid ends in November, and my husband is > about to start a new contracting job, and we don't have insurance > yet, not sure what we're going to be able to afford, might just be > catastrophic at first. Whatever we get, I'm sure won't pay for > this. Anyway, I'm just a little frustrated, not sure we're going to > get anymore correction, but don't want to just quit. > > Also, my husband and I were discussing the probable cause of the > overlapping plates and the unevenness of the top of her head the > other day. Maybe it wasn't the vacuum. You know, I pushed for a > total of 7 minutes to get her out. Her head was wedged sideways in > the birth canal, and with the 2nd contraction, a nurse climbed on top > of me and began pushing my belly. (I have the whole thing on video.) > Then, with the 3rd contraction, they got the vacuum. The dr. was in > a hurry to get to her office, I guess. She was on her way there when > she called and found out I was ready to deliver. We began > questioning this the other day, when we were with some new people > from church that we'd just met, and they were asking about her > helmet. I explained the birth process, and one lady was horrified > that the nurse pushed her through my belly, especially so soon. She > said she had heard they didn't do that anymore, because it can cause > injuries. Now, my question is this....why didn't they let her try to > move down the birth canal by herself rather than begin pushing on her > with the 2nd contraction? I don't remember her heart rate going down, > or any other problems that would have prompted them to get her out > quickly. I'm picturing this...if her head was cocked to the side and > wedged in the birth canal (she had a large head), and they began > pushing her through there rather than my body pushing her at a normal > rate, yes, I think that could put pressure on one side of her head > and perhaps cause the plates to overlap. I think this is a more > feasible scenario than the vacuum messing that up. > > One day, I'm going to sit and write a long letter to that dr. and to > that hospital. Probably won't make any difference, but perhaps I > should also copy the AMA. Probably still won't make any difference, > but it'll make me feel better. One day, when I have time. I guess I > have time now! LOL! Anyway, thanks for listening to my > frustrations. I'm just so ready for my baby to have this thing off > her head! Yes, part of it was my fault, for letting her sleep on my > arm, causing a flat spot that just intensified the situation. But, > that would have probably been corrected by now, if it wasn't for the > rest of the problem. I feel like my baby has lost a normal infancy > that she could/should have had. I know there are babies in worse > situations than this, so I'm ashamed to be complaining. Can I have a > little cheese with my whine? > > Thanks for listening...or reading, I guess. Hope everyone is well. > > Caro, Mom of Baby Mo, 10 months old, Doc Banded 5/23/03, then again > 7/30/03, Dallas, TX area > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Caro, You're cracking me up! *L* I would definitely write a letter to the hospital, the doctor, the AMA, etc. I had a very bad experience with a night nurse in a DFW hospital and she actually tore open a couple of the staples from my c-section incision! It wasn't bad enough that I had to have the c-section because I had pre-eclampsia, the cord was wrapped around Jordyn's neck, and she was so big that the back of her head was pushing against my tailbone...but now there's a rough nurse who doesn't want to be working pushing and pulling on my poor tummy until she causes even more damage (and some really ugly scarring)!!! I keep saying I'm gonna write a letter too, one of these days when I have some time. mom to Jordyn (soon to be banded!) > > Hi, strangers! Sorry I don't get in here often. At work today with > > absolutely NOTHING TO DO! LOL! Can you believe it? Just listening > > to last night's sermon from our church, online. > > > > Moira is doing well. Her head looks pretty good, still has a little > > flatness on the back right side, but has rounded out a lot. Still > > uneven on top, but not quite as much as when we first began. > > Honestly, ladies, I can't see that she's made much progress in the > > past several weeks. Went yesterday for her bi-weekly check, and her > > orthotist said she's getting a lot of rounding on the back and that > > we just need to get a little more on that right side. Well, the > back > > of her head wasn't flat. I guess I'm a little frustrated, afraid > > that if we wait to be " graduated " , they'll keep this thing on her > > until she's 2! Well, I'll tell ya', once she outgrows this one, > > that's it, because her Medicaid ends in November, and my husband is > > about to start a new contracting job, and we don't have insurance > > yet, not sure what we're going to be able to afford, might just be > > catastrophic at first. Whatever we get, I'm sure won't pay for > > this. Anyway, I'm just a little frustrated, not sure we're going to > > get anymore correction, but don't want to just quit. > > > > Also, my husband and I were discussing the probable cause of the > > overlapping plates and the unevenness of the top of her head the > > other day. Maybe it wasn't the vacuum. You know, I pushed for a > > total of 7 minutes to get her out. Her head was wedged sideways in > > the birth canal, and with the 2nd contraction, a nurse climbed on > top > > of me and began pushing my belly. (I have the whole thing on > video.) > > Then, with the 3rd contraction, they got the vacuum. The dr. was in > > a hurry to get to her office, I guess. She was on her way there > when > > she called and found out I was ready to deliver. We began > > questioning this the other day, when we were with some new people > > from church that we'd just met, and they were asking about her > > helmet. I explained the birth process, and one lady was horrified > > that the nurse pushed her through my belly, especially so soon. She > > said she had heard they didn't do that anymore, because it can > cause > > injuries. Now, my question is this....why didn't they let her try > to > > move down the birth canal by herself rather than begin pushing on > her > > with the 2nd contraction? I don't remember her heart rate going > down, > > or any other problems that would have prompted them to get her out > > quickly. I'm picturing this...if her head was cocked to the side > and > > wedged in the birth canal (she had a large head), and they began > > pushing her through there rather than my body pushing her at a > normal > > rate, yes, I think that could put pressure on one side of her head > > and perhaps cause the plates to overlap. I think this is a more > > feasible scenario than the vacuum messing that up. > > > > One day, I'm going to sit and write a long letter to that dr. and > to > > that hospital. Probably won't make any difference, but perhaps I > > should also copy the AMA. Probably still won't make any difference, > > but it'll make me feel better. One day, when I have time. I guess I > > have time now! LOL! Anyway, thanks for listening to my > > frustrations. I'm just so ready for my baby to have this thing off > > her head! Yes, part of it was my fault, for letting her sleep on my > > arm, causing a flat spot that just intensified the situation. But, > > that would have probably been corrected by now, if it wasn't for > the > > rest of the problem. I feel like my baby has lost a normal infancy > > that she could/should have had. I know there are babies in worse > > situations than this, so I'm ashamed to be complaining. Can I have > a > > little cheese with my whine? > > > > Thanks for listening...or reading, I guess. Hope everyone is well. > > > > Caro, Mom of Baby Mo, 10 months old, Doc Banded 5/23/03, then again > > 7/30/03, Dallas, TX area > > > > > > > > > > For more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Glad Moira is doing well! I've been wondering about you. Hopefully you will start seeing some more correction! Jen- TXTrentyn- 16 mo. DocBand 06/12/03 & 09/17/03 Baby Mo Still Around Hi, strangers! Sorry I don't get in here often. At work today with absolutely NOTHING TO DO! LOL! Can you believe it? Just listening to last night's sermon from our church, online. Moira is doing well. Her head looks pretty good, still has a little flatness on the back right side, but has rounded out a lot. Still uneven on top, but not quite as much as when we first began. Honestly, ladies, I can't see that she's made much progress in the past several weeks. Went yesterday for her bi-weekly check, and her orthotist said she's getting a lot of rounding on the back and that we just need to get a little more on that right side. Well, the back of her head wasn't flat. I guess I'm a little frustrated, afraid that if we wait to be "graduated", they'll keep this thing on her until she's 2! Well, I'll tell ya', once she outgrows this one, that's it, because her Medicaid ends in November, and my husband is about to start a new contracting job, and we don't have insurance yet, not sure what we're going to be able to afford, might just be catastrophic at first. Whatever we get, I'm sure won't pay for this. Anyway, I'm just a little frustrated, not sure we're going to get anymore correction, but don't want to just quit.Also, my husband and I were discussing the probable cause of the overlapping plates and the unevenness of the top of her head the other day. Maybe it wasn't the vacuum. You know, I pushed for a total of 7 minutes to get her out. Her head was wedged sideways in the birth canal, and with the 2nd contraction, a nurse climbed on top of me and began pushing my belly. (I have the whole thing on video.) Then, with the 3rd contraction, they got the vacuum. The dr. was in a hurry to get to her office, I guess. She was on her way there when she called and found out I was ready to deliver. We began questioning this the other day, when we were with some new people from church that we'd just met, and they were asking about her helmet. I explained the birth process, and one lady was horrified that the nurse pushed her through my belly, especially so soon. She said she had heard they didn't do that anymore, because it can cause injuries. Now, my question is this....why didn't they let her try to move down the birth canal by herself rather than begin pushing on her with the 2nd contraction? I don't remember her heart rate going down, or any other problems that would have prompted them to get her out quickly. I'm picturing this...if her head was cocked to the side and wedged in the birth canal (she had a large head), and they began pushing her through there rather than my body pushing her at a normal rate, yes, I think that could put pressure on one side of her head and perhaps cause the plates to overlap. I think this is a more feasible scenario than the vacuum messing that up. One day, I'm going to sit and write a long letter to that dr. and to that hospital. Probably won't make any difference, but perhaps I should also copy the AMA. Probably still won't make any difference, but it'll make me feel better. One day, when I have time. I guess I have time now! LOL! Anyway, thanks for listening to my frustrations. I'm just so ready for my baby to have this thing off her head! Yes, part of it was my fault, for letting her sleep on my arm, causing a flat spot that just intensified the situation. But, that would have probably been corrected by now, if it wasn't for the rest of the problem. I feel like my baby has lost a normal infancy that she could/should have had. I know there are babies in worse situations than this, so I'm ashamed to be complaining. Can I have a little cheese with my whine?Thanks for listening...or reading, I guess. Hope everyone is well.Caro, Mom of Baby Mo, 10 months old, Doc Banded 5/23/03, then again 7/30/03, Dallas, TX areaFor more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Caro, The explanation of how the nurse pushed the baby down, causing the plates to fuse sounds feasible to me too- jmo. A nurse tied a towel to the bed for leverage, and pushed down on me so hard, jumped on me like you described- and it did nothing for getting stuck little out :' ( And she really hurt my stomach muscle, to this day I have a problem sitting up a certain way if I go to fast. But I know that in my son's case (who also had a vacuum)- that he was stuck on his left side for about a month- CT actually pointed out signs of plagio that I didn't see until my consult- the pieces all clicked. Hang in there, with Mo just 10 mos. old, I'll bet a growth spurt is right around the corner! Grow Mo! ) Keep your spirits high, your almost there!!!!! 'mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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