Re: High Amonia, taurine and Glutamate

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So, its definitely because your son has got rid of pathogens, atleast some if

not all...

thanks Olga,

Sasmita

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> > > Limin,

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> > > i received my son's urine amino acid test result today and he has high

amonia, taurine and glutamate.

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> > > A few weeks ago you mention something to help to lower/detoxify amonia but

I can't find your post, would you please let me know what is it that you used or

are using for this problem?

> > >

> > > Also if taurine is high does this mean that my son is losing/wasting it

throught the urine or is it that he has too much of it? This is a bit confusing

for me to understand.

> > >

> > > Also what can I do to reduce/detoxify glutamate.

> > >

> > > MP sent my son a formula last year which contained L -glutamine (GI

revive) and he took it for a few months and it is very obvious it was'n't the

right supplement for him as glutamate is elevated now.

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> > > Would appreciate your comments and advice .

> > >

> > > Olga

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Lily,Generally speaking, zinc can be taken anytime of the day. It is better to take with meals or right after mealtime, as zinc can upset the stomach for some sensitive individuals. LiminHi, I just had a question. My son has just strated on P5P and Zinc. Our doctor has recommended P5P in the morning and zink in the evening. Is this Ok?By the way he had terrible reaction last night (I am thinking because we just started zink last night). He woke up screaming for about 1hr:( Many thanks LilyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:46:57 AMSubject: Re: Re: High Amonia, taurine and GlutamateRobin,The most difficult part of a supplementation plan is to figure out dosage for individuals. There is no science for this; art should be called for. I would rely on yin state test of ART to figure out how much the dosage is to relax the body and bring about healing. And of course, always observe how one does on that dosage.It is hard to observe the effects of and reactions to B6 in order to adjust dosage, if you take it form B complex formula. This is Dr. K's recommendation: If B6 is used, take it in the morning. If P5P is used, take it at bedtime. In my son's case, I am still slowly increasing his B6 to test his tolerance threshold. He is about 55 pounds, and takes one capsule of The Core that gives about 20 mg of the combo of Pyridioxine HCl and P5P at lunchtime and another 50 mg of P5P at bedtime. I am going to increase The Core to 2 capsules to see how he does on this, and perhaps run P5P and B6 as balancer on Zyto scan as well.Hi group, if anyone has a good measurement to determine dosage, please do chime in. Thank you.Limin--http://www.healthbylimin.com/Young Living Distributor # 1111136"Follow those who seek the truth,but flee from those who have found it."-- Unknown origin> As always, great information, Limin.. Thank you. I had no clue about B6 and GAD. This can get so complicated.> > I have a question about b6. I do take more than I should most likely of b6 not p5p because I take a multi b. For me 32mg B6 and at one point 60mg p5p.> > Both of my children have pyloluria as I suspect I do.. my test was not properly maintained by VD lab, so I dont trust the results, esp given both of my children are positive, and i had such a hard time off supplements for the testing, I have not retested. I also did not have an HPL run. > > My children take a Thorne B complex formula that has less B6 than mine and Ive added P5P for them. For them, 20mg B6 and 3.4 mg p5p plus an extra 50mg p5p for my son. My daughter cannot tolerate the extra P5P. It makes her nauseated. We've tried sublingual and pill form. > > My son taking 50mg of P5P still has not had any dream recall. How do you know when you have enough B6 in and when you have too much? Are there measures for this? > > Thank you.> > Robin> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Limin,>>>> >>>> i received my son's urine amino acid test result today and he has high amonia, taurine and glutamate.>>>> >>>> A few weeks ago you mention something to help to lower/detoxify amonia but I can't find your post, would you please let me know what is it that you used or are using for this problem?>>>> >>>> Also if taurine is high does this mean that my son is losing/wasting it throught the urine or is it that he has too much of it? This is a bit confusing for me to understand.>>>> >>>> Also what can I do to reduce/detoxify glutamate.>>>> >>>> MP sent my son a formula last year which contained L -glutamine (GI revive) and he took it for a few months and it is very obvious it was'n't the right supplement for him as glutamate is elevated now.>>>> >>>> Would appreciate your comments and advice .>>>> >>>> Olga>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------>>> >>>

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My daughter was having issues (nausea) with p5p and we had to stop... when we

switched to PM before bed as Limin relayed Dr K suggests, much better.

Robin

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> > >>>> Limin,

> > >>>>

> > >>>> i received my son's urine amino acid test result today and he has high

amonia, taurine and glutamate.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> A few weeks ago you mention something to help to lower/detoxify amonia

but I can't find your post, would you please let me know what is it that you

used or are using for this problem?

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Also if taurine is high does this mean that my son is losing/wasting it

throught the urine or is it that he has too much of it? This is a bit confusing

for me to understand.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Also what can I do to reduce/detoxify glutamate.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> MP sent my son a formula last year which contained L -glutamine (GI

revive) and he took it for a few months and it is very obvious it was'n't the

right supplement for him as glutamate is elevated now.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Would appreciate your comments and advice .

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Olga

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

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I am on that protocol and take 2 Core in the morning and 2 in the evening (plus one extra zinc low dose). Since the p5p and zinc are both in the Core, I don't see why it would matter taking them together. I take the GLA (or some  people take Primrose oil) separate at lunch, and copper also. These need to be separate from the zinc. You have to be careful of copper deficiency when taking high doses of zinc. I would also think that 2 Core twice a day would be high for a child, since that is what I take as an adult. My doc muscle tests my dose, and I was tested as a high HPU/KPU. You also should start low and build up to see what his tolerance is. Taking zinc when you are HPU replaces the heavy metals that have replaced the zinc all this time in your cells. When you start taking it, you should be detoxing for heavy metals as well, or they just get kicked out into the blood and then deposit somewhere else. In my experience, it also stirs up the infections, since your body starts to work right.

caryn

 

Hi,

 

I just had a question. My son has just strated on P5P and Zinc. Our doctor has recommended P5P in the morning and zink in the evening. Is this Ok?

By the way he had terrible reaction last night (I am thinking because we just started zink last night). He woke up screaming for about 1hr:(

 

Many thanks

 

Lily

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:46:57 AMSubject: Re: Re: High Amonia, taurine and Glutamate

 

Robin,The most difficult part of a supplementation plan is to figure out dosage for individuals. There is no science for this; art should be called for. I would rely on yin state test of ART to figure out how much the dosage is to relax the body and bring about healing. And of course, always observe how one does on that dosage.

It is hard to observe the effects of and reactions to B6 in order to adjust dosage, if you take it form B complex formula. This is Dr. K's recommendation: If B6 is used, take it in the morning. If P5P is used, take it at bedtime.

In my son's case, I am still slowly increasing his B6 to test his tolerance threshold. He is about 55 pounds, and takes one capsule of The Core that gives about 20 mg of the combo of Pyridioxine HCl and P5P at lunchtime and another 50 mg of P5P at bedtime. I am going to increase The Core to 2 capsules to see how he does on this, and perhaps run P5P and B6 as balancer on Zyto scan

as well.Hi group, if anyone has a good measurement to determine dosage, please do chime in. Thank you.Limin--http://www.healthbylimin.com/

Young Living Distributor # 1111136 " Follow those who seek the truth,but flee from those who have found it. " -- Unknown origin> As always, great information, Limin.. Thank you. I had no clue about B6 and GAD. This can get so complicated.

> > I have a question about b6. I do take more than I should most likely of b6 not p5p because I take a multi b. For me 32mg B6 and at one point 60mg p5p.> > Both of my children have pyloluria as I suspect I do.. my test was not properly maintained by VD lab, so I dont trust the results, esp given both of my children are positive, and i had such a hard time off supplements for the testing, I have not retested. I also did not have an HPL run.

>

> My children take a Thorne B complex formula that has less B6 than mine and Ive added P5P for them. For them, 20mg B6 and 3.4 mg p5p plus an extra 50mg p5p for my son. My daughter cannot tolerate the extra P5P. It makes her nauseated. We've tried sublingual and pill form.

> > My son taking 50mg of P5P still has not had any dream recall. How do you know when you have enough B6 in and when you have too much? Are there measures for this? > > Thank you.> > Robin

> > >

>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Limin,>>>> >>>> i received my son's urine amino acid test result today and he has high amonia, taurine and glutamate.

>>>> >>>> A few weeks ago you mention something to help to lower/detoxify amonia but I can't find your post, would you please let me know what is it that you used or are using for this problem?

>>>> >>>> Also if taurine is high does this mean that my son is losing/wasting it throught the urine or is it that he has too much

of it? This is a bit confusing for me to understand.>>>> >>>> Also what can I do to reduce/detoxify glutamate.>>>> >>>> MP sent my son a formula last year which contained L -glutamine (GI revive) and he took it for a few months and it is very obvious it was'n't the right supplement for him as glutamate is elevated now.

>>>> >>>> Would appreciate your comments and advice .>>>> >>>> Olga>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------

>>> >>>

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Hi Caryn,

Thanks for your response. I am new to all this so I have a few questions.

1) What is "Core"?

2) What is HPU/KPU and how do I find out if my son is high in these? In this case what to take to detox the heavy metals? We are not doing any detoxing, so I guess it could be a problem taking just zinc as you mention

Thanks in advance

Lily

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 10:57:30 AMSubject: Re: Re: High Amonia, taurine and Glutamate

I am on that protocol and take 2 Core in the morning and 2 in the evening (plus one extra zinc low dose). Since the p5p and zinc are both in the Core, I don't see why it would matter taking them together. I take the GLA (or some people take Primrose oil) separate at lunch, and copper also. These need to be separate from the zinc. You have to be careful of copper deficiency when taking high doses of zinc. I would also think that 2 Core twice a day would be high for a child, since that is what I take as an adult. My doc muscle tests my dose, and I was tested as a high HPU/KPU. You also should start low and build up to see what his tolerance is. Taking zinc when you are HPU replaces the heavy metals that have replaced the zinc all this time in your cells. When you start taking it, you should be detoxing for heavy metals as well, or they just get kicked out into the blood and then deposit somewhere else. In my experience, it also stirs up the

infections, since your body starts to work right.caryn

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Lily Papajorgji <lilypapajor@ yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi,

I just had a question. My son has just strated on P5P and Zinc. Our doctor has recommended P5P in the morning and zink in the evening. Is this Ok?

By the way he had terrible reaction last night (I am thinking because we just started zink last night). He woke up screaming for about 1hr:(

Many thanks

Lily

From: Limin Tseng <liminslett (DOT) net>To: BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, May 21, 2010 1:46:57 AMSubject: Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Re: High Amonia, taurine and Glutamate

Robin,The most difficult part of a supplementation plan is to figure out dosage for individuals. There is no science for this; art should be called for. I would rely on yin state test of ART to figure out how much the dosage is to relax the body and bring about healing. And of course, always observe how one does on that dosage.It is hard to observe the effects of and reactions to B6 in order to adjust dosage, if you take it form B complex formula. This is Dr. K's recommendation: If B6 is used, take it in the morning. If P5P is used, take it at bedtime. In my son's case, I am still slowly increasing his B6 to test his tolerance threshold. He is about 55 pounds, and takes one capsule of The Core that gives about 20 mg of the combo of Pyridioxine HCl and P5P at lunchtime and another 50 mg of P5P at bedtime. I am going to increase The Core to 2 capsules to see how he does on this, and perhaps run P5P and B6 as balancer on Zyto scan

as well.Hi group, if anyone has a good measurement to determine dosage, please do chime in. Thank you.

Limin--http://www.healthbylimin.com/Young Living Distributor # 1111136"Follow those who seek the truth,but flee from those who have found it."-- Unknown origin> As always, great information, Limin.. Thank you. I had no clue about B6 and GAD. This can get so complicated.> > I have a question about b6. I do take more than I should most likely of b6 not p5p because I take a multi b. For me 32mg B6 and at one point 60mg p5p.> > Both of my children have pyloluria as I suspect I do.. my test was not properly maintained by VD lab, so I dont trust the results, esp given both of my children are positive, and i had such a hard time off supplements for the testing, I have not retested. I also did not have an HPL run. > > My children take a Thorne B complex formula that has less B6 than mine and Ive added

P5P for them. For them, 20mg B6 and 3.4 mg p5p plus an extra 50mg p5p for my son. My daughter cannot tolerate the extra P5P. It makes her nauseated. We've tried sublingual and pill form. > > My son taking 50mg of P5P still has not had any dream recall. How do you know when you have enough B6 in and when you have too much? Are there measures for this? > > Thank you.> > Robin > > > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Limin,>>>> >>>> i received my son's urine amino acid test result today and he has high amonia, taurine and glutamate.>>>> >>>> A few weeks ago you mention something to help to lower/detoxify amonia but I can't find your post, would you please let me know what is it that you used or are using for this problem?>>>> >>>> Also if taurine is high does this mean that my son is losing/wasting it throught the urine or is it that he has

too much of it? This is a bit confusing for me to understand.>>>> >>>> Also what can I do to reduce/detoxify glutamate.>>>> >>>> MP sent my son a formula last year which contained L -glutamine (GI revive) and he took it for a few months and it is very obvious it was'n't the right supplement for him as glutamate is elevated now.>>>> >>>> Would appreciate your comments and advice .>>>> >>>> Olga>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>> >>>