RE: Bragging

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wtg , my dr office just called and mine was 15.3 ;0(

and my chol. was 232

sharon {mamaladybug}

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In a message dated 7/29/2002 12:50:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

camcl2@... writes:

> But, I'm going to do my 'snoopy dance of joy' over the A1C!!!!

>

Hi ,

You can do any kind of dance you want to. Congratulations on the great

number.

Eunice

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> <<how strict have you been with your diet habits to get a 112 BG and

> (especially) a 5.6 A1C ? I was diagnosed in October 97, and my most recent

>

> A1C was 7.2 (barely " ok " , certainly not great), and a typical BG reading is

>

> often over 160 (even in the AM before breakfast). A couple months ago, I

> got a BG reading of 97, but that was after nearly starving myself, if I

> remember correctly.>>

>

I can answer this about me. My last A1c was 7.3. It hasn't been long enough

to get another, but my meter says my average is 107. I take no diabetes meds

and control by diet.

I eat lots of fruits and vegetables, seafood, fish, cheese and meats. I do

not eat pasta, breads, potatoes, sugar, rice and other high carb stuff. I am

not hungry ;-)

(wsm311@...)

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Vermont

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> Okay, my doctor's office just called with my blood test results.

> Fasting BG was 112. About 5 months ago, my A1C was 9.0, it's down

to

> 5.6!!!!! I'm so dammed proud of myself!!!

>

>

Way to go !!!!! You're doing SO GREAT!! Very inspiring that in

a matter of a few months you got your BG under control!

Jacki

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At 12:49 PM 7/29/2002, wrote:

>Okay, my doctor's office just called with my blood test results.

>Fasting BG was 112. About 5 months ago, my A1C was 9.0, it's down to

>5.6!!!!! I'm so dammed proud of myself!!!

, how strict have you been with your diet habits to get a 112 BG and

(especially) a 5.6 A1C ? I was diagnosed in October 97, and my most recent

A1C was 7.2 (barely " ok " , certainly not great), and a typical BG reading is

often over 160 (even in the AM before breakfast). A couple months ago, I

got a BG reading of 97, but that was after nearly starving myself, if I

remember correctly.

I am asking about the changes you made (how drastic they were) because I

am wondering if I will ever reach this without a diet restricted to lettuce

and celery (weak laugh). I do need to exercise, I don't get nearly enough,

but I am not sure if that will solve it. It's almost harder to get past

that hurdle than being strict in what I do or don't eat. All I know is, I

want to avoid insulin shots -- the BG test needles are bad enough. And, I

hear once you go on insulin, there is no hope of going back, that is, no

deleting the need for it, no matter how strict you are ... sigh.

- Dave G.

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Dave,

I'm averaging about 100 grams of carbs/day, sometimes as low as 50,

sometimes as high as 140 (when I don't cheat). I find that my sugars

are actually better when I stick around 95 to 130 grams, any lower

and I spike, and of course, when I do something stupid (eat all the

rice in a chinese food take out lunch) of course I spike.

What I am finding, which struck me as really odd, is that what I eat

makes more of a difference than the number of carbs. For example, I

can eat one 15 carb waffle, and two hours later I'm hitting a bg of

140. But, if I eat a couple of breakfast sausages with that same

waffle, my two hour reading is 110.

For some reason, (and I'm not complaining!) I can eat infinite

amounts of cottage cheese with pineapple and not have my numbers

break 100. In fact, pineapple in any form keeps my numbers low. Ice

cream in limited quanities is okay, but rice is not good, and baked

potatoes are a very very very bad thing!

What made the difference for me is that I started keeping a simple

log, in excel, of everything I ate, every test score, any related

details like 'lots of exercise' or 'not feeling well'. Makes it a

lot easier to realize what I was eating, when, and what

correlations/patterns turn up. I'm testing right now about 5-6 times

a day, and plan to continue that for at least another month or two.

Then I'll try to drop back to my average of twice a day.

Try varying your diet, and try to always pair a carb with a protein.

I don't know why it makes a difference, but I know it does.

As far as how drastic the changes were, for me, very. My diet used

to be absolutely horrible. Dinner at least once or twice a week was

a pint of ben and jerry's and a spoon. My only fruit consumption was

the orange and cranberry juice in my Malibu bay breezes. Salad was

something I never ever touched. I grew up a long time ago, my diet

was just really slow in catching up. But now, I'm (almost) eating

like a grown up!

>

> , how strict have you been with your diet habits to get a 112

BG and

> (especially) a 5.6 A1C ? I was diagnosed in October 97, and my

most recent

> A1C was 7.2 (barely " ok " , certainly not great), and a typical BG

reading is

> often over 160 (even in the AM before breakfast). A couple months

ago, I

> got a BG reading of 97, but that was after nearly starving myself,

if I

> remember correctly.

>

> I am asking about the changes you made (how drastic they were)

because I

> am wondering if I will ever reach this without a diet restricted to

lettuce

> and celery (weak laugh). I do need to exercise, I don't get nearly

enough,

> but I am not sure if that will solve it. It's almost harder to get

past

> that hurdle than being strict in what I do or don't eat. All I

know is, I

> want to avoid insulin shots -- the BG test needles are bad enough.

And, I

> hear once you go on insulin, there is no hope of going back, that

is, no

> deleting the need for it, no matter how strict you are ... sigh.

>

> - Dave G.

[Guest guest]

I do need to exercise, I don't get nearly

> enough,

> > but I am not sure if that will solve it. It's almost harder to

get

> past

> > that hurdle than being strict in what I do or don't eat

Dave, I was in the same boat, but exercise makes a huge difference in

managing diabetes, especially for Type 2s who are insulin resistant.

Exercising the muscles makes them much more receptive to the insulin

our bodies produce. My doctor wrote me a " prescription " for 20

minutes of exercise a day when I was diagnosed. I argued with her

and said I didn't have the time or the energy. She said it was just

as important to take this " prescription " as any of the drugs I was

taking, and maybe even more important. With that in mind, I started

making time. Now I do it not because I have to but because I feel

great! And I love the way I'm eating now. I'm eating good, healthy

balanced meals, and I'm never hungry. I just eat smaller amounts, a

lot more often, and cut out the junk. And I'm eating more variety

now than I ever did. You can do it! Just take baby steps, but keep

up that determination. I brought my A1c down from 10.7 to 5.6

without meds, and lost 56 pounds. Now there is no way I'd go back to

the old way of living.

Christy

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Dave,

I have been experimenting for six months now…I have totally low carbed

with 20gs a day or less carb. I have done the diatition diet of over 100

grams of carb a day and everything in between and the only thing that is

consistent is that my body does NOT like it when I eat a lot food at one

time. Even pure 0 carb meats can cause me harm if I eat a lot (more then

3 or 4 oz)…..I can maybe eat ¼ cup of oats or maybe ½ slice of bread or

4 oz of meat…..

sus

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From: stargate7@...

, how strict have you been with your diet habits to get a 112 BG

and

(especially) a 5.6 A1C ? I was diagnosed in October 97, and my most

recent

A1C was 7.2 (barely " ok " , certainly not great), and a typical BG reading

is

often over 160 (even in the AM before breakfast). A couple months ago,

I

got a BG reading of 97, but that was after nearly starving myself, if I

remember correctly.

I am asking about the changes you made (how drastic they were) because

I

am wondering if I will ever reach this without a diet restricted to

lettuce

and celery (weak laugh). I do need to exercise, I don't get nearly

enough,

but I am not sure if that will solve it. It's almost harder to get past

that hurdle than being strict in what I do or don't eat. All I know is,

I

want to avoid insulin shots -- the BG test needles are bad enough. And,

I

hear once you go on insulin, there is no hope of going back, that is, no

deleting the need for it, no matter how strict you are ... sigh.

- Dave G.

[Guest guest]

Good for you :-)....sussie

Bragging

Okay, my doctor's office just called with my blood test results.

Fasting BG was 112. About 5 months ago, my A1C was 9.0, it's down to

5.6!!!!! I'm so dammed proud of myself!!!

My cholesterol isn't moving as fast as I would like tho! I don't

want to take yet more meds, (I am on Glucovance for the sugar). I'm

trying to manage the cholesterol by diet. and doing a pretty

mediocre job of it. Total went from 188 to 177, and the ratio from

6.1 to 5.5. Anyone have any info on how to do this better? Or

websites where I can do some research?

But, I'm going to do my 'snoopy dance of joy' over the A1C!!!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/29/02 11:54:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Max_Penn@... writes:

> Try varying your diet, and try to always pair a carb with a protein.

>

> I don't know why it makes a difference, but I know it does.

>

>

>

>

>

>

Our diabetic educator told us that when you combine a high glycemic food like

rice or potatoes with a protein, it changes the glycemic index. I'm not sure

how that works but they had told us that it was better to eat higher fiber

foods like brown rice instead of white and sweet potatoe instead of white

potatoe... but when you combine the protein with the carb it makes it process

slower by changing the glycemic index. Like I said, I have no idea why but

it does. I can't eat a baked potatoe period... but if I eat 1/2 cup of

mashed potatoes and have a piece of chicken with it, I am fine. So I have

started making sure that I have some kind of protein when I am having a carb

if I can, if it is a high glycemic carb.

Also, I think the reason why I can eat mashed potatoes is because I dice the

potatoes up very small and boil until tender and then pour all the water off

that has a lot of the starch from the potatoe in it. Then I add fat free

buttermilk to the potatoes and mash. I do okay eating those. Baked

potatoes, I guess, keep all that concentrated sugar inside as you bake it and

when you eat it, it is more carbs going in than the mashed.

shirley