Thyroid disease and need some advice on meno

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I don't know if this is correct,but a couple of years back I ran across an

article that claimed people with Thyroid Disease, gets

worse at 3% ratio per year, in one way or another, even with meds, but it only

mentioned t4 meds. I don't know if a study on just

using armour or something similer has ever been done.

For me, this does seem to be the case as one illnes after another has popped up

only to be discovered it traces back to my Thyroid.

Now I'm no expert. I have no idea if this is true or not. But it does make you

wonder:}

PS I ordered Armour from England last week!But I need some advice now on the

night sweats I'm experiencing the last few months and

getting worse.

Since being Post meno, I have gone through heat flashes, uncontrolable bleeding,

over the last 6 years, and now night sweats. Of

course they are heavy duty night sweats, not even the air conditioner helps, so

I get very little sleep.

No insurance, no doctor, so keep that in mind when you reccommend something that

might help. I don't want to use anything that will

start me bleeding again ever!

I went through that 2 years ago and it was awful and linked to my thryroid:}

Doctor's words. Only explanation they could come up

with after a battery of tests. A protocol of one month of birth control in

various doses per day put an end to the bleeding... thank

goodness.

Jewel Dartt

http://www.geocities.com/jkdartt/

graves/post Rai /12 years

Post meno because of thyroid crash

COPD

continous hyper and hypo symtoms

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Hi Jewel,

Im no expert either, but I have read a lot about all this stuff. I

take Black Cohosh for hot flashes... if I miss some doses, I start

getting them again. I dont know if it will help night sweats. My hot

flashes are mostly while Im in bed. usually first thing upon opening

my eyes in the morning.

best wishes,

pam

ps, I just ordered Armour from England too!! Ive been taking Nutri-

Meds for about a year. Its not helping much anymore, Ive been thru

quite a bit of stress the past couple months and my goiter swelled up

again.

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> I don't know if this is correct,but a couple of years back I ran across

an article that claimed people with Thyroid Disease, gets

> worse at 3% ratio per year, in one way or another, even with meds, but it

only mentioned t4 meds. I don't know if a study on just

> using armour or something similer has ever been done.

I think the thyroid will eventually get worse no matter what you do...even

non-hashimoto's tends to be progressive.

But I need some advice now on the night sweats I'm experiencing the last few

months and

> getting worse.

My excessive sweating stopped after Armour. Once you get the right dose, T3

generally " cures " the hyperhydrosis symptom. I too was skeptical about this,

but I am no longer sweating like a pig or having the terrible hyper

symptoms! So, once you get your armour and find the right dose for you

you'll see an improvement in a few weeks. I think it took about three weeks

for me, and I was not even optimally dosed. No amount of keeping cool does

the trick I understand. Mine would be even worse if I took a nap during the

day. I sweat excessivly day and night. Even though we finally have some

warmer weather this week, that symptom has not returned. So, good news!

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> > I don't know if this is correct,but a couple of years back I ran

across

> an article that claimed people with Thyroid Disease, gets

> > worse at 3% ratio per year, in one way or another, even with

meds, but it

> only mentioned t4 meds. I don't know if a study on just

> > using armour or something similer has ever been done.

>

Wow. Figures. I really don't think I have Hashi's because there's

no goitre, and I definitely don't have a problem with losing too much

weight.

Ella

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Hi valerie

I mean the disease progresses 3% every year. Now remember I have no idea if this

is true or not, since thyroid disease in all it's

forms is different for everybody. I wish I could find that article again, but I

lost it on my other hard drive a long time ago. So

please don't take my word for this... just something I read in a article by a

doctor during my researching days. As far as I know he

could be one of the many nutty doctors, that has no idea what he was talking

about:]

Thanks all for the suggestions on these night sweats. It's hard sometimes to

know if it's thyroid or meno:} or both!

Jewel Dartt

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??????I get estradiol in cream form in my tri-est. The pharmacist

recommended the tri-est over the bi. Most women do very poorly on oral

hormones.

Gracia

me> I had been using sublingual tri-est and compounded progesterone and

crying

> and bleeding all the time. My blood tests showed truckloads of

progesterone

> and virtually no estradiol. Estradiol metabolizes into estriol and

estrone.

> It cannot be delivered in a cream form; only in an alcohol base gel or

> orally by pill. Apparently for me, it cannot be delivered in the

sublingual

> tri-est form either.

>

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progesterone cream

Gracia

> Since being Post meno, I have gone through heat flashes, uncontrolable

bleeding, over the last 6 years, and now night sweats. Of

> course they are heavy duty night sweats, not even the air conditioner

helps, so I get very little sleep.

> No insurance, no doctor, so keep that in mind when you reccommend

something that might help. I don't want to use anything that will

> start me bleeding again ever!

> I went through that 2 years ago and it was awful and linked to my

thryroid:} Doctor's words. Only explanation they could come up

> with after a battery of tests. A protocol of one month of birth control in

various doses per day put an end to the bleeding... thank

> goodness.

> Jewel Dartt

> http://www.geocities.com/jkdartt/

> graves/post Rai /12 years

> Post meno because of thyroid crash

> COPD

> continous hyper and hypo symtoms

>

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My understanding is as I wrote before. Cream forms can be assimilated

through mucus membranes but not through the dermis. I use estriol cream on

my face! Very good for wrinkles.

While I was on the sublingual, I was getting something because my night

sweats and hot flashes were fairly controlled. They returned as soon as I

stopped the sublingual. But I was not getting estradiol and my

estradiol/progesterone balance was waaaaay off. The sweats were never

contolled on progesterone cream alone, but when on that alone, I did not

have the terrible imbalance, weepies, depression, etc.

I forgot to mention that estradiol can also be delivered through the skin

patch.

Val in Boulder, CO

Subject: Re:

??????I get estradiol in cream form in my tri-est. The pharmacist

recommended the tri-est over the bi. Most women do very poorly on oral

hormones.

Gracia

me> I had been using sublingual tri-est and compounded progesterone and

crying

> and bleeding all the time. My blood tests showed truckloads of

progesterone

> and virtually no estradiol. Estradiol metabolizes into estriol and

estrone.

> It cannot be delivered in a cream form; only in an alcohol base gel or

> orally by pill. Apparently for me, it cannot be delivered in the

sublingual

> tri-est form either.

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Hi Jewel,

I read this info. somewhere too and it was talking about the

synthetics. I was having bed sweats too when I was hypo. Once I got

to the right dose of Armour, they went away.

Zina

> I don't know if this is correct,but a couple of years back I ran

across an article that claimed people with Thyroid Disease, gets

> worse at 3% ratio per year, in one way or another, even with meds,

but it only mentioned t4 meds. I don't know if a study on just

> using armour or something similer has ever been done.

> For me, this does seem to be the case as one illnes after another

has popped up only to be discovered it traces back to my Thyroid.

> Now I'm no expert. I have no idea if this is true or not. But it

does make you wonder:}

> PS I ordered Armour from England last week!But I need some advice

now on the night sweats I'm experiencing the last few months and

> getting worse.

> Since being Post meno, I have gone through heat flashes,

uncontrolable bleeding, over the last 6 years, and now night sweats.

Of

> course they are heavy duty night sweats, not even the air

conditioner helps, so I get very little sleep.

> No insurance, no doctor, so keep that in mind when you reccommend

something that might help. I don't want to use anything that will

> start me bleeding again ever!

> I went through that 2 years ago and it was awful and linked to my

thryroid:} Doctor's words. Only explanation they could come up

> with after a battery of tests. A protocol of one month of birth

control in various doses per day put an end to the bleeding... thank

> goodness.

> Jewel Dartt

> http://www.geocities.com/jkdartt/

> graves/post Rai /12 years

> Post meno because of thyroid crash

> COPD

> continous hyper and hypo symtoms

>

>

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Thanks for the info Zina. I hope Armour does the same for me:] I have been

trying the vitamin e in the meantime while I wait for my

armour to get here. To soon to tell if it is helping yet. The hrt's black

cohash, progestion are things I have tried in the past

with very little results except bad ones. My system can't seem to take any of

them very well.

Jewel Dartt

http://www.geocities.com/jkdartt/

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maybe because you needed T3 to work with the hormones.

Gracia

> Thanks for the info Zina. I hope Armour does the same for me:] I have been

trying the vitamin e in the meantime while I wait for my

> armour to get here. To soon to tell if it is helping yet. The hrt's black

cohash, progestion are things I have tried in the past

> with very little results except bad ones. My system can't seem to take any

of them very well.

>

> Jewel Dartt

> http://www.geocities.com/jkdartt/

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