Re: L-Carnitine for autism

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Heidi,

Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I wonder

if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to kids who might

have thyroid issues.

Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L carnitine as

some people say that they are both different and that both need to be given.

Thanks for your comments

Olga

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wrote:

>

> The Geiers are into carnitine. ly, I think a lot of amino acids would

give similar results since children with autism are low in them. But, even so,

here's their research about it. I think I am mostly impressed with the lower

platelets since thick blood is likely a problem in autism since they have

circulation problems. I know we have thick blood at our house.

>

> The reason l-carnitine is being looked at, is the theory that it promotes

cellular energy. Well, that is definitely needed. I am not sure how increasing

carnitine will effect the other amino acids. Often when you get a lot of

someone, you end up lacking something else. We do take this though, as part of

one of our supplement formulas.

>

> http://www.medscimonit.com/fulltxt.php?ICID=881792

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

[Guest guest]

Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Heidi,

Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

kids who might have thyroid issues.

Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

need to be given.

Thanks for your comments

Olga

[Guest guest]

Ooops! I read the label wrong, it's 100mg to 200mg of acetyl l-carnitine a day

for kids.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

>

> Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

> Heidi,

>

> Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

>

> I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> kids who might have thyroid issues.

>

> Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> need to be given.

>

> Thanks for your comments

>

> Olga

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Heidi, I will start giving it to my son again as L carnitine was on of

the supplements that gave him a lot of energy and muscle strenght particularly

in the upper area( he has always had a lot of strenght in the legs but not the

arms and hands) in the past and I only stopped because we found out he had

thyroid issues

Some people said that large doses(1000-2000 daily) can trigger seizures so I see

how he goes with the doses you mention.

Olga

>

> Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

> Heidi,

>

> Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

>

> I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> kids who might have thyroid issues.

>

> Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> need to be given.

>

> Thanks for your comments

>

> Olga

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

We are just starting this Mitochondrial Restore for my 5 yr old ASD son.

Can I ask you how many capsules you are kids are taking? And is this to be

taken with food or between meals?

Before we used to supplement Acetyl L carnitine (250mg) in empty stomach. I

always thought Amino acids are to be taken away from the meals. The Dr told us

that would do nothing and asked us to start this new supplement. But this

supplement has other stuff like coq10, resvetrol etc, so I am giving with

meals.

If this supplement is working for you, would you share this detail?

Thanks

Shanthi

>

> Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

> Heidi,

>

> Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

>

> I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> kids who might have thyroid issues.

>

> Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> need to be given.

>

> Thanks for your comments

>

> Olga

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have been contemplating using carnitine for myself and my kids. Do you

know if acetyl carnitine help with fat absorption? Im not sure if plain

carnitine is the way to go or acetyl carnitine? We have problems with fat

absortion and are generally low on aminos. You guys are just so smart and I have

been waiting to ask this.

Noelle

>

> Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

> Heidi,

>

> Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

>

> I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> kids who might have thyroid issues.

>

> Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> need to be given.

>

> Thanks for your comments

>

> Olga

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi,

Can you tell me what formula you use for Mitochondrial Restore and how many

capsules you give your kids a day?

I bought for my son Acety l-carnitine alone but I didn't start yet.

I used to give him 500mgX2.

Thanks!

Idman

>

> Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

> Heidi,

>

> Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

>

> I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> kids who might have thyroid issues.

>

> Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> need to be given.

>

> Thanks for your comments

>

> Olga

>

[Guest guest]

Mitochondrial Restore is a formula that has lots of good things like COQ10,

resveratrol, etc. Anyhow, the ALA in it is time-release for those who are

concerned. My kids only take one capsule a day, except for my 80 pound one who

takes 1 twice a day. This helps, but I don't think it's enough to chelate. The

doc says I can give more, so recently started that to see if they can get more

metals out. They are still not able to handle gluten and still need to take

supplements. One has been extra hyper lately. But, at least they are playing

alot. I am so excited to see them play house like we did when we were kids. I

just want them to be like it was when I was a child. We played all the time and

mostly outside. That's what healthy kids need. Oh, the journey continues.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

> >

> > Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> > is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> > acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> > more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> > there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> > Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> > formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> > not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> > when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

> >

> >

> > Heidi,

> >

> > Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

> >

> > I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> > wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> > kids who might have thyroid issues.

> >

> > Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> > carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> > need to be given.

> >

> > Thanks for your comments

> >

> > Olga

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't looked that up yet. The doc gives us the acetyl l-carnitine, and that

is all we have tried.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

> >

> > Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> > is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> > acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> > more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> > there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> > Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> > formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> > not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> > when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

> >

> > Love and prayers,

> >

> > Heidi N

> >

> >

> >

> > Heidi,

> >

> > Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

> >

> > I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> > wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> > kids who might have thyroid issues.

> >

> > Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> > carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> > need to be given.

> >

> > Thanks for your comments

> >

> > Olga

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Heidi My son started a glutathione homeopathic support with ALA. Do you think the ALA is not strong enough to chelate?FranselSender: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:47:36 -0000To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >ReplyTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: L-Carnitine for autism Mitochondrial Restore is a formula that has lots of good things like COQ10, resveratrol, etc. Anyhow, the ALA in it is time-release for those who are concerned. My kids only take one capsule a day, except for my 80 pound one who takes 1 twice a day. This helps, but I don't think it's enough to chelate. The doc says I can give more, so recently started that to see if they can get more metals out. They are still not able to handle gluten and still need to take supplements. One has been extra hyper lately. But, at least they are playing alot. I am so excited to see them play house like we did when we were kids. I just want them to be like it was when I was a child. We played all the time and mostly outside. That's what healthy kids need. Oh, the journey continues. Love and prayers,Heidi N> >> > Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there > > is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of > > acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are > > more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas, > > there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more. > > Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some > > formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can > > not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy > > when taking it, so it's not making us tired.> > > > Love and prayers,> > > > Heidi N> > > > > > > > Heidi,> > > > Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?> > > > I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I > > wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to > > kids who might have thyroid issues.> > > > Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L > > carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both > > need to be given.> > > > Thanks for your comments> > > > Olga> >>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it can, just not the dose we were on.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Heidi

My son started a glutathione homeopathic support with ALA. Do you think

the ALA is not strong enough to chelate?

Fransel

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much, we are going to go for it and try acetyl L carnitine.

> > >

> > > Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there

> > > is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of

> > > acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are

> > > more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas,

> > > there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more.

> > > Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some

> > > formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can

> > > not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy

> > > when taking it, so it's not making us tired.

> > >

> > > Love and prayers,

> > >

> > > Heidi N

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Heidi,

> > >

> > > Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?

> > >

> > > I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I

> > > wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to

> > > kids who might have thyroid issues.

> > >

> > > Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L

> > > carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both

> > > need to be given.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your comments

> > >

> > > Olga

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

where do you find this product?

From: faithiseverything

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:47 PM

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: L-Carnitine for autism

Mitochondrial Restore is a formula that has lots of good things like COQ10, resveratrol, etc. Anyhow, the ALA in it is time-release for those who are concerned. My kids only take one capsule a day, except for my 80 pound one who takes 1 twice a day. This helps, but I don't think it's enough to chelate. The doc says I can give more, so recently started that to see if they can get more metals out. They are still not able to handle gluten and still need to take supplements. One has been extra hyper lately. But, at least they are playing alot. I am so excited to see them play house like we did when we were kids. I just want them to be like it was when I was a child. We played all the time and mostly outside. That's what healthy kids need. Oh, the journey continues. Love and prayers,Heidi N> >> > Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there > > is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of > > acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are > > more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas, > > there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more. > > Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some > > formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can > > not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy > > when taking it, so it's not making us tired.> > > > Love and prayers,> > > > Heidi N> > > > > > > > Heidi,> > > > Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?> > > > I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I > > wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to > > kids who might have thyroid issues.> > > > Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L > > carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both > > need to be given.> > > > Thanks for your comments> > > > Olga> >>

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http://www.neurobiologix.com/On Jul 18, 2011, at 5:06 PM, Christel Church wrote:where do you find this product? From: faithiseverythingSent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:47 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: L-Carnitine for autism Mitochondrial Restore is a formula that has lots of good things like COQ10, resveratrol, etc. Anyhow, the ALA in it is time-release for those who are concerned. My kids only take one capsule a day, except for my 80 pound one who takes 1 twice a day. This helps, but I don't think it's enough to chelate. The doc says I can give more, so recently started that to see if they can get more metals out. They are still not able to handle gluten and still need to take supplements. One has been extra hyper lately. But, at least they are playing alot. I am so excited to see them play house like we did when we were kids. I just want them to be like it was when I was a child. We played all the time and mostly outside. That's what healthy kids need. Oh, the journey continues. Love and prayers,Heidi N> >> > Olga, that's why I try to avoid supplementing amino acids, since there > > is always a trade-off. The doc has my kids on 300 to 600mg a day of > > acety l-carnitine. But, it's in a formula. I find that supplements are > > more likely to cause issues when taken separately, but in formulas, > > there are much less issues. I think formulas balance things out more. > > Of course, sometimes, taking things separately is better than some > > formulas. Since we take it in the formula, Mitochondrial Restore, I can > > not comment on what the effect is taking it alone. We get more energy > > when taking it, so it's not making us tired.> > > > Love and prayers,> > > > Heidi N> > > > > > > > Heidi,> > > > Do you mind to share how much L carnitine are you supplementing?> > > > I heard in another group that L carnitine is a thyroid antagonist and I > > wonder if this is the case, would it be a problem to supplement it to > > kids who might have thyroid issues.> > > > Also are you supplemneting L Acetyl carnitine as well or just L > > carnitine as some people say that they are both different and that both > > need to be given.> > > > Thanks for your comments> > > > Olga> >>No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3751 - Release Date: 07/08/11Internal Virus Database is out of date.