Guest guest Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 In a message dated 4/10/02 7:26:50 PM Central Daylight Time, hensleyct@... writes: > hensleyct@... (Theresa Hensley) > Proximal : typically 75 to 150 cm of jejunum attached to the stomach, leaving many meters of small bowel in continuity. Distal: only 50 to 100 cm of ileum left as a common channel with both the food and bile mixing. Typically meters of small bowel are bypassed. A picture is worth a thousand words, try the www.asbs.org website and the ww.shedweight.com website for starters. A proximal is just a word. Not all doctors even use the word so I don't know where it came from either. Anyway I have spoken to several doctors at the chat on several sites and they all say its about 50 cm to 150 cm bypassed. So anyway its just a number right? The Distal which is even more confusing is just a bigger number. It means there is a lot bypassed. I have heard people call 200 cm a distal (However I have also heard that amount called a medial) (The small intestine is about 22 feet long give or take everyone is different) But the difference between a proximal and distal operation lies in the amount of common intestinal length (don't get confused by how much is bypassed or sectioned off- it's the common limb that is the marker) So don't get to hung up on the words. Just know a proximal is the shorter one and a distal is the longer one. The more bypassed means the less you absorb, both calories but also nutrition. So its a trade off. However the good news is you can supplement. My surgeon Bypasses any where from 4 1/2 foot to 7 1/2 foot.. Depending on your beginning weight..I was bypassed 7 foot (200cm)..so Technically I'm a medial by some standards but most say proximal...again it's just a number.. The cut off point between proximal and medial is arbitrary but a bypass of less than 150cm is universally called proximal, a bypass of 150-250cm medial and above 250cm distal. ..·:*´¨`*:·..·:* ´¨`* :· ::: (³) ::: *: ^)^ :* *·. ( .·* *·-:¦:-* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2002 Report Share Posted April 10, 2002 Awwwww i sank you berry berry much Ms. . Theresa ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Re: Prox vs Distal In a message dated 4/10/02 7:26:50 PM Central Daylight Time, hensleyct@... writes: > hensleyct@... (Theresa Hensley) > Proximal : typically 75 to 150 cm of jejunum attached to the stomach, leaving many meters of small bowel in continuity. Distal: only 50 to 100 cm of ileum left as a common channel with both the food and bile mixing. Typically meters of small bowel are bypassed. A picture is worth a thousand words, try the www.asbs.org website and the ww.shedweight.com website for starters. A proximal is just a word. Not all doctors even use the word so I don't know where it came from either. Anyway I have spoken to several doctors at the chat on several sites and they all say its about 50 cm to 150 cm bypassed. So anyway its just a number right? The Distal which is even more confusing is just a bigger number. It means there is a lot bypassed. I have heard people call 200 cm a distal (However I have also heard that amount called a medial) (The small intestine is about 22 feet long give or take everyone is different) But the difference between a proximal and distal operation lies in the amount of common intestinal length (don't get confused by how much is bypassed or sectioned off- it's the common limb that is the marker) So don't get to hung up on the words. Just know a proximal is the shorter one and a distal is the longer one. The more bypassed means the less you absorb, both calories but also nutrition. So its a trade off. However the good news is you can supplement. My surgeon Bypasses any where from 4 1/2 foot to 7 1/2 foot.. Depending on your beginning weight..I was bypassed 7 foot (200cm)..so Technically I'm a medial by some standards but most say proximal...again it's just a number.. The cut off point between proximal and medial is arbitrary but a bypass of less than 150cm is universally called proximal, a bypass of 150-250cm medial and above 250cm distal. ..·:*´¨`*:·..·:* ´¨`* :· ::: (³) ::: *: ^)^ :* *·. ( .·* *·-:¦:-* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 I'll send you mine again if you want. Well, I had to throw a stinking fit at Champion. I have not had a full load (of PS100 choc) since the first of the year. The only reason I PERSONALLY will have some is the UPS mangled a few cans and if I can get 'em open they are mine. Grrrr. Anyway, they called today, doubled my tickets (front row) to the Emerald Cup, and promised me this would NEVER happen again. Said my own salesman was afraid to call me! HAHAH! You do NOT separate a woman from her chocolate. Esp if that woman is attached to 3000 OTHER women who are being separated from their chocolate. That's just STUPID. Thanks, http://www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Prox vs Distal ~Vitalady or or someone I am going to get shot for this I just know it... Who has the documentation on the difference of the two. I know its in the files I believe but I'm 2 muscle relaxers high. Anyways, I am trying to get some documentation put together for the support group. And You may just have a heck of an order come up if I take my protein to the group. Cause NO BODY that I know of other than myself does protein drinks. So I think I'm going to do this I'm not sure that my dr will like this but so what if it gets them healthier then why the heck not. Plus help with weight loss. So Hey Maybe we'll just order 1000000000 cans. and ALL CHOCKALOTT!! No seriously one never knows. So if there is something you can help me with I just may have some more business for ya like you what you want right, but never the less. Appreciate all your help. Theresa ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Yep I got it thank you!!! AMEN on the Chocolate! I had my first one, got my order yesterday thank you very much and I savored every sip, it was nummers! mmmmm Its protein for me yes in dead, gotta get off some more weight before next week. So its fish/chicken a little fats alittle carbs but we are talk the min. Thanks for ya help really appreciate it. ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Re: Prox vs Distal I'll send you mine again if you want. Well, I had to throw a stinking fit at Champion. I have not had a full load (of PS100 choc) since the first of the year. The only reason I PERSONALLY will have some is the UPS mangled a few cans and if I can get 'em open they are mine. Grrrr. Anyway, they called today, doubled my tickets (front row) to the Emerald Cup, and promised me this would NEVER happen again. Said my own salesman was afraid to call me! HAHAH! You do NOT separate a woman from her chocolate. Esp if that woman is attached to 3000 OTHER women who are being separated from their chocolate. That's just STUPID. Thanks, http://www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Prox vs Distal ~Vitalady or or someone I am going to get shot for this I just know it... Who has the documentation on the difference of the two. I know its in the files I believe but I'm 2 muscle relaxers high. Anyways, I am trying to get some documentation put together for the support group. And You may just have a heck of an order come up if I take my protein to the group. Cause NO BODY that I know of other than myself does protein drinks. So I think I'm going to do this I'm not sure that my dr will like this but so what if it gets them healthier then why the heck not. Plus help with weight loss. So Hey Maybe we'll just order 1000000000 cans. and ALL CHOCKALOTT!! No seriously one never knows. So if there is something you can help me with I just may have some more business for ya like you what you want right, but never the less. Appreciate all your help. Theresa ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 You make an excellent point . What were they thinking? Hugs, You do NOT separate a woman from her chocolate. Esp if that woman is attached to 3000 OTHER women who are being separated from their chocolate. That's just STUPID. Thanks, http://www.vitalady.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 not a PS100 shortage!! SAY IT ISN'T SO! I just got a shipment of 3 cans from you so I'm not panicking yet..... in WA -- Re: Prox vs Distal I'll send you mine again if you want. Well, I had to throw a stinking fit at Champion. I have not had a full load (of PS100 choc) since the first of the year. The only reason I PERSONALLY will have some is the UPS mangled a few cans and if I can get 'em open they are mine. Grrrr. Anyway, they called today, doubled my tickets (front row) to the Emerald Cup, and promised me this would NEVER happen again. Said my own salesman was afraid to call me! HAHAH! You do NOT separate a woman from her chocolate. Esp if that woman is attached to 3000 OTHER women who are being separated from their chocolate. That's just STUPID. Thanks, http://www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Prox vs Distal ~Vitalady or or someone I am going to get shot for this I just know it... Who has the documentation on the difference of the two. I know its in the files I believe but I'm 2 muscle relaxers high. Anyways, I am trying to get some documentation put together for the support group. And You may just have a heck of an order come up if I take my protein to the group. Cause NO BODY that I know of other than myself does protein drinks. So I think I'm going to do this I'm not sure that my dr will like this but so what if it gets them healthier then why the heck not Plus help with weight loss. So Hey Maybe we'll just order 1000000000 cans and ALL CHOCKALOTT!! No seriously one never knows. So if there is something you can help me with I just may have some more business for ya like you what you want right, but never the less. Appreciate all your help. Theresa ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Well, all I know is that they are scared to talk to me! LOL! They put it on the one guy who's as smooth as my dh, when it comes to schmoozing, so I would not go into attack mode. They offered me reparations today. LOL! I'm not sure which is worse, having to order a big gob or not getting it when I do! LOL! I can tell you, when I walked out there today and saw ONE lonely case on the pallet, terror gripped my heart. Me? Or someone else? Who gets 'em? LOL! Good thing I have these squished cans, huh? LOL! I should have them mid week. Thanks, http://www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Prox vs Distal ~Vitalady or or someone I am going to get shot for this I just know it... Who has the documentation on the difference of the two. I know its in the files I believe but I'm 2 muscle relaxers high. Anyways, I am trying to get some documentation put together for the support group. And You may just have a heck of an order come up if I take my protein to the group. Cause NO BODY that I know of other than myself does protein drinks. So I think I'm going to do this I'm not sure that my dr will like this but so what if it gets them healthier then why the heck not Plus help with weight loss. So Hey Maybe we'll just order 1000000000 cans and ALL CHOCKALOTT!! No seriously one never knows. So if there is something you can help me with I just may have some more business for ya like you what you want right, but never the less. Appreciate all your help. Theresa ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Now.. the real truth is out.. no wonder you were ready to kill earlier this week.. so went outside and stomped the flower beds around. I am glad that I wasnt around.. since I dont have fur on my body.. lol Hugs, in GA open RNY 12/12/00 revision 04/18/01 revision 02/07/02 sw392 cw 212 -180 5'6 l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Whew! I can just picture you sitting on the case of them with a super soaker nailing anyone who gets near ya to try to take one. LOL I'm relieved to hear more is coming. -- Re: Prox vs Distal Well, all I know is that they are scared to talk to me! LOL! They put it on the one guy who's as smooth as my dh, when it comes to schmoozing, so I would not go into attack mode. They offered me reparations today. LOL! I'm not sure which is worse, having to order a big gob or not getting it when I do! LOL! I can tell you, when I walked out there today and saw ONE lonely case on the pallet, terror gripped my heart. Me? Or someone else? Who gets 'em? LOL! Good thing I have these squished cans, huh? LOL! I should have them mid week. Thanks, http://www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Prox vs Distal ~Vitalady or or someone I am going to get shot for this I just know it... Who has the documentation on the difference of the two. I know its in the files I believe but I'm 2 muscle relaxers high. Anyways, I am trying to get some documentation put together for the support group And You may just have a heck of an order come up if I take my protein to the group. Cause NO BODY that I know of other than myself does protein drinks. So I think I'm going to do this I'm not sure that my dr will like this but so what if it gets them healthier then why the heck not Plus help with weight loss. So Hey Maybe we'll just order 1000000000 cans and ALL CHOCKALOTT!! No seriously one never knows. So if there is something you can help me with I just may have some more business for ya like you what you want right, but never the less. Appreciate all your help. Theresa ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 They were run today. But they did not SHIP! Believe me, I am GOING THERE in person in July! I plan to grab the mfr supervisor by the ear & drag him out to my car & make him fill it up on the spot. (I hope he's not a body builder) Thanks, http://www.vitalady.com For info on PayPal, click this link: https://secure.paypal.com/affil/pal=vitalady%40bigfoot.com Prox vs Distal ~Vitalady or or someone I am going to get shot for this I just know it... Who has the documentation on the difference of the two. I know its in the files I believe but I'm 2 muscle relaxers high. Anyways, I am trying to get some documentation put together for the support group And You may just have a heck of an order come up if I take my protein to the group. Cause NO BODY that I know of other than myself does protein drinks. So I think I'm going to do this I'm not sure that my dr will like this but so what if it gets them healthier then why the heck not Plus help with weight loss. So Hey Maybe we'll just order 1000000000 cans and ALL CHOCKALOTT!! No seriously one never knows. So if there is something you can help me with I just may have some more business for ya like you what you want right, but never the less. Appreciate all your help. Theresa ~For today is tomorrow and tomorrow is today so live as if it was yesterday!~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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