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In a message dated 01-03-06 18:42:44 EST, you write:

<< I tried to

take my blood pressure, and the machine, which beeps at each pulsebeat, was

skipping two beats every now and then. So I placed my fingers on the side of

my neck and I was still skipping beats. >>

Maybe not heart attack, may be arrhythmia. Meds can straighten that out.

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In a message dated 3/6/01 4:50:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, whimsy2@...

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> In a message dated 01-03-06 18:42:44 EST, you write:

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> <<

> I may have had another heart attack. >>

I hope this is just a temporary problem that a med adjustment will help.

Keeping good thoughts,

Carol T

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I may have had another heart attack. Rob is on the way home to take me to

the hospital. I've been shaky for weeks. This afternoon driving home from

town, I felt nauseated. I rolled the window down and that helped. I nearly

had to pull off the road. I've been feeling unwell all afternoon. I tried to

take my blood pressure, and the machine, which beeps at each pulsebeat, was

skipping two beats every now and then. So I placed my fingers on the side of

my neck and I was still skipping beats.

Susie

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Susie M. if i would have read this first i would have kept my opion to my self,

am praying that all is ok, i will go back to first do no harm and keep my mouth

shut

i am so sorry glenna

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I may have had another heart attack. Rob is on the way home to take me to

the hospital. I've been shaky for weeks. This afternoon driving home from

town, I felt nauseated. I rolled the window down and that helped. I nearly

had to pull off the road. I've been feeling unwell all afternoon. I tried to

take my blood pressure, and the machine, which beeps at each pulsebeat, was

skipping two beats every now and then. So I placed my fingers on the side of

my neck and I was still skipping beats.

Susie

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In a message dated 3/6/01 11:49:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, nws@...

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<< The worse thing is having to go to Nuclear Medicine. I'm thinking about

telling my Cardiologist that I refuse to go through that again. I didn't

think I'd live through it the last time. I passed out and they had to keep

working with me and washing my face and hands and calling me trying to make

me come to. Ohhhhhhh I was soooooo sick. >>

I had a cardiac stress test, with the radioactive dye, and the radioactive

stuff that would make the heart stress,

i had 0 symptoms did not feel bad at all, just a slight burning in the vein,

and wierd taste in my mouth.... but i was fine.

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We sure hope so too, Susie! Vicki

In a message dated 01-03-07 00:20:43 EST, you write:

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I hope whatever it is, it is treatable with meds. I struggled for many

years, and it wouldn't be fair to lose the battle now, when things are going

so well for me and Rob.

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Susie, I'm sorry to hear about your heart problems.

and hope that you will soon be well again. You asked about my cheast pain. Since

I started with those ACE tablets which I got to lower my blood pressure it has

had the good side effect that my breast pain has totally disappeared. That just

confirms the research that has been done with those ACE tablets. Keep up the

mood. Us that have tried these pain know how unpleasent the are.

I hope that you will be soon well again.

Take care

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Just a follow-up note to let you know we just walked in the door from the

ER. It is my heart, and they nearly missed the problem. When I was wired up

to the monitor, it was fine. Luckily, I had one of those episodes just when

the doctor had the stethoscope on my chest. It beats fine, then goes into

some sort of flurry, which feels like bats are flying around in my chest,

and then this sort of feeling like I need to burp, moving up into my throat.

And I get sweaty and feel nauseated.

I asked them, " What do you think is wrong with me? Is it dangerous? " And

they said, " We have no idea! " Sheesh - I wonder what the bill is going to be

....

I'm supposed to see my doctor tomorrow and wear a Holter monitor for a day

or two so they can hopefully capture this monkey acting up on tape. They

didn't do any bloodwork other than a finger-stick. My reading, not

surprisingly, was 147.

I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to keep up with the posts today, but will

try to catch up tomorrow. Dave, I had to quit in the middle of replying to

your post. But I was a good Midwestern gal ... took out the trash, did the

dishes, locked all the doors, bathed, shaved, and packed a hospital bag

while waiting for Rob.

Susie

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Susie there are some very good medications on the market now that can help

you with that heart problem you're having. I know.....been there......done

that. Still going through it. They put me on Coreg (which is very

expensive). Now I'm on the generic but I'm due to go through all of the

tests again in April. I don't mind the echo cardiogram but I really hate to

wear that monitor 'cause it's so uncomfortable but evidently it's necessary.

The worse thing is having to go to Nuclear Medicine. I'm thinking about

telling my Cardiologist that I refuse to go through that again. I didn't

think I'd live through it the last time. I passed out and they had to keep

working with me and washing my face and hands and calling me trying to make

me come to. Ohhhhhhh I was soooooo sick.

You just hang in there kiddo. I'm still praying for you.

Tootie

Re: heart attack?

Just a follow-up note to let you know we just walked in the door from the

ER. It is my heart, and they nearly missed the problem. When I was wired

up

to the monitor, it was fine. Luckily, I had one of those episodes just

when

the doctor had the stethoscope on my chest. It beats fine, then goes into

some sort of flurry, which feels like bats are flying around in my chest,

and then this sort of feeling like I need to burp, moving up into my

throat.

And I get sweaty and feel nauseated.

I asked them, " What do you think is wrong with me? Is it dangerous? " And

they said, " We have no idea! " Sheesh - I wonder what the bill is going to

be

...

I'm supposed to see my doctor tomorrow and wear a Holter monitor for a day

or two so they can hopefully capture this monkey acting up on tape. They

didn't do any bloodwork other than a finger-stick. My reading, not

surprisingly, was 147.

I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to keep up with the posts today, but will

try to catch up tomorrow. Dave, I had to quit in the middle of replying to

your post. But I was a good Midwestern gal ... took out the trash, did the

dishes, locked all the doors, bathed, shaved, and packed a hospital bag

while waiting for Rob.

Susie

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Glenna Donnelly wrote:

<< Susie M. if i would have read this first i would have kept my opion to my

self, am praying that all is ok, i will go back to first do no harm and keep

my mouth shut i am so sorry >>

No no no, Glenna ... Please be assured that I was not at all upset. I really

mean it about dedicating my life to do what I can to help others. I do love

you diabetics! :o) I can't count the number of times I've been told off by

people who say I'm opinionated, overzealous, and so on. I understand how

hard it is to be confronted with all this information that runs counter to

official dogma. It took me six months of full-time online research and

participating in groups and lots of questioning before I could come to

accept that some of our thinking is based on flawed science - or no science.

We were told in 1984 to cut fat from our diets. All that did was make us

fatter and sicker. Now even little kids are obese type 2's! Now we learn

there was never any studies - just some people's hunches.

Susie

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Vicki wrote:

<< Maybe not heart attack, may be arrhythmia. Meds can straighten that out.

>>

Luckily the nice ER doc is a gal who had severe arrthymia in the past and

treats it with beta blockers. On the other hand, I'm already taking large

doses of beta blockers (as well as ACE inhibitors and Lasix). Rob also

misses beats, and it freaks me out to put the cuff on him. He has been

thoroughly checked out at Mayo Clinic and they say his situation is benign.

But what troubles me is how extremely ill I feel when these episodes occur.

(I had several in the car on the ride home from the hospital.)

I hope whatever it is, it is treatable with meds. I struggled for many

years, and it wouldn't be fair to lose the battle now, when things are going

so well for me and Rob.

Susie

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Norgaard wrote:

<< Since I started with those ACE tablets which I got to lower my blood

pressure it has had the good side effect that my breast pain has totally

disappeared. That just confirms the research that has been done with those

ACE tablets. >>

I'm so glad to hear that, . I hope all continues to go well for you and

your family, and that your wife has suffered no lasting effects from her

motor scooter accident. Please tell her and the five youngsters that you

have many friends and admirers around the globe, thanks to your efforts to

create and maintain this wonderful and growing group.

Susie :o)

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Thanks for your response, Tootie. If there's anybody who's been there and

has lived to tell the story, it is you. You are one brave, understanding,

loving gal! You know, I was thinking about you today when I was lying in

that bed, all wired up.

I gotta tell you a funny story here ... They said, " Disrobe, including your

bra, but you can leave your underwear on. " Well, I don't wear any, so I'm

totally naked except for this funky hospital gown that is stamped " Hospital

Property " everywhere - AS IF someone would want to steal the ugly sucker!

And there's a back neck string, but no - ummm - butt string. So I have had

two quarts of weak iced tea and need to pee like a racehorse. The bathroom

is on the other side of the ER. So Rob kindly grabs a folded sheet - and

wraps it around my *shoulders*! Heeeheeeheeee ... I was really tempted to

walk out of my cubicle just like that, wondering aloud about the sudden

breeze I felt!

Susie :o)

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Susie,

So sorry to hear of your heart problems...don't think like that! Rob needs

you around and so do we!

Really hope you'll find a resolution to your problems soon.

Most sincerely best wishes,

Craig Weavers

and it wouldn't be fair to lose the battle now, when things are going

so well for me and Rob.

Susie

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Thank you Susie :) and take care.

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> Norgaard wrote:

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> << Since I started with those ACE tablets which I got to lower my blood

> pressure it has had the good side effect that my breast pain has totally

> disappeared. That just confirms the research that has been done with those

> ACE tablets. >>

>

> I'm so glad to hear that, . I hope all continues to go well for you and

> your family, and that your wife has suffered no lasting effects from her

> motor scooter accident. Please tell her and the five youngsters that you

> have many friends and admirers around the globe, thanks to your efforts to

> create and maintain this wonderful and growing group.

>

> Susie :o)

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>I hope whatever it is, it is treatable with meds. I struggled for many

>years, and it wouldn't be fair to lose the battle now, when things are

>going

>so well for me and Rob.

>

Gosh Susie....I really hope your condition is nothing serious. I will be

sending healing thoughts and prayers your way.

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Thank you, Craig. I agree with Belver Ladsen that the list is no fun

anymore - and it's certainly stress I don't need in my life. I hang in

there, even though I feel it's taking a toll on me. I'm sorry to lose

Belver, who always had soothing words of wisdom for us.

Susie

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Dave O. wrote:

<< It sounds exactly like the symptoms of a panic/anxiety attack, but then,

it could be anything. >>

I think that's where the hospital personnel were headed too. I was up at 5

a.m. to research, and I suspect the problem will be discovered in bloodwork

(which the ER didn't do). I have only incomplete notes of past bloodwork,

but I see my CO2 had dropped from 27 (1998) to 18.7 (low) by 2000. My MCV

was elevated, probably indicating a vitamin B12/folate deficiency anemia. My

" bands " (whatever they are) were high. And my electrolytes were borderline

low.

This new doctor did almost no bloodwork in December, and my bloodwork before

that was in the ER from the horse wreck. I haven't had detailed testing done

in nearly two years. I've had the head tremor since last fall. I have a

hunch the tremor and the heart thingy are related. I read that a very low

levels of magnesium can cause muscles to tremble, while low potassium levels

can cause muscle weakness and heart problems.

I'm frantic to find out, and welcome all suggestions. I get that wave of

uneasiness and nausea, feel for my pulse in my neck, and sometimes it's not

there for a few beats.

Susie

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In a message dated 3/7/01 7:09:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,

ottercritter@... writes:

> I think that's where the hospital personnel were headed too. I was up at 5

> a.m. to research, and I suspect the problem will be discovered in bloodwork

> (which the ER didn't do). I have only incomplete notes of past bloodwork,

> but I see my CO2 had dropped from 27 (1998) to 18.7 (low) by 2000. My MCV

> was elevated, probably indicating a vitamin B12/folate deficiency anemia.

My

> " bands " (whatever they are) were high. And my electrolytes were borderline

> low.

Susie,

Your lab work may prove interesting....My husband has a history of low

electrolytes which resulted in several ER visits for various arrythmias over

more than a decade. The problem was always solved with med/supplement

tweaking. Hope it's something easy like that!

Carol T

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" Susie M. " wrote:

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> Vicki wrote:

>

> << Maybe not heart attack, may be arrhythmia. Meds can straighten that out.

> >>

>

> Luckily the nice ER doc is a gal who had severe arrthymia in the past and

> treats it with beta blockers. On the other hand, I'm already taking large

> doses of beta blockers (as well as ACE inhibitors and Lasix). Rob also

> misses beats, and it freaks me out to put the cuff on him. He has been

> thoroughly checked out at Mayo Clinic and they say his situation is benign.

> But what troubles me is how extremely ill I feel when these episodes occur.

> (I had several in the car on the ride home from the hospital.)

>

> I hope whatever it is, it is treatable with meds. I struggled for many

> years, and it wouldn't be fair to lose the battle now, when things are going

> so well for me and Rob.

>

> Susie

I am surely not a medical person of any type, but what you experience,

along with the symptoms appears to be something that I am very familiar

with, and have had to deal with all of my married life.

It sounds exactly like the symptoms of a panic/anxiety attack, but then,

it could be anything.

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Thank you for your sincere wishes, . There's always some good to be

found. I have learned a great deal about electrolyte depletion today! There

is something we remind ourselves and each other of every so often, and that

is that we must remember our priorities. Sometimes we realize we are all

sitting at our desks, typing about diabetes, when we could be outdoors,

exercising and enjoying nature and helping our health situation. And

sometimes I need to remember to pay more attention to my own medical

problems.

Susie

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In a message dated 03/06/2001 5:42:36 PM Central Standard Time,

ottercritter@... writes:

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I may have had another heart attack. Rob is on the way home to take me to

the hospital. I've been shaky for weeks. >>

Prayers for you Susie

ressy

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Susie:

My prayers and thoughts are with You until you are on the path to wellness

once again. You are a great friend to me and many others and i love what you

do for me.

hugs

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Well, Susie,

It sounds like you'll be busy for a few days with Dr visits. Giving up the

caffeine may help! My husband gave up most of his caffeine (except that

rascal, chocolate!).

Carol T

In a message dated 3/7/01 3:43:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,

ottercritter@... writes:

> I'll certainly tell you the outcome as soon as we know. Your husband and I

> may have remarkably similar experiences. They kept hauling my dad off to

the

> ER in an ambulance with his arrhythmias, and I always suspected it was

> something that could have been remedied, if folks just knew where to look.

> They drew blood today. I get the Holter monitor Monday. Then Tuesday

> afternoon, after it is removed, I do a treadmill test at the doctor's

> office. eanwhile, the hospital will phone to schedule an echocardiogram. By

> next week we should have the blood test results back. And meanwhile I'll

lay

> off all caffeine and see if that doesn't help a lot.

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