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Sorry you had such a bad experience with Life Extension. I have been doing business with Life Extension Foundation (not sure if it is the same company you are talking about as Life Extension Vitamins) for many years and have never had a problem with misuse of my credit card or inaccurate delivery of my order. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of olga.antonelloSent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 3:07 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Lutimax ,I got it from Life Extension Vitamins, but I would never ever buy anything from that company again. I ordered 2 bottles of Lutimax with L-theanine and they sent me Lutimax only, they withdraw extra money from my credit card without my knowledge and authorization and when I complainened to them the first email was full of excuses and lies, they said they did it because they sent my parcel express which was not true because when I got it the parcel was sent as ordinary mail, then when I told them that I was going to lodge a complain with the bank to recup my money they started sending me all sort of abusive emails saying that I had no right to call them dishonest and lyers because alt hey did did was to try to help me out.Please anyone don't ever order from them, as they are thieves and very abusive company, other people from the customer views report that the company even took money from their credit card in other occasions when they did not order products.I found out that the makers of Lutimax sells too and next time I will get from them .Olga> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.> > > > > > > > > > > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination is a lot better as well> > > > > > > > > > > > Olga> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

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I have checked this out and they are two different companies, though Life Extension Vitamins do carry products from Life Extension Foundation. Life Extension Foundation does not carry LutiMax. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of Anne MearsSent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 4:42 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: RE: Re: Lutimax Sorry you had such a bad experience with Life Extension. I have been doing business with Life Extension Foundation (not sure if it is the same company you are talking about as Life Extension Vitamins) for many years and have never had a problem with misuse of my credit card or inaccurate delivery of my order. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of olga.antonelloSent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 3:07 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Lutimax ,I got it from Life Extension Vitamins, but I would never ever buy anything from that company again. I ordered 2 bottles of Lutimax with L-theanine and they sent me Lutimax only, they withdraw extra money from my credit card without my knowledge and authorization and when I complainened to them the first email was full of excuses and lies, they said they did it because they sent my parcel express which was not true because when I got it the parcel was sent as ordinary mail, then when I told them that I was going to lodge a complain with the bank to recup my money they started sending me all sort of abusive emails saying that I had no right to call them dishonest and lyers because alt hey did did was to try to help me out.Please anyone don't ever order from them, as they are thieves and very abusive company, other people from the customer views report that the company even took money from their credit card in other occasions when they did not order products.I found out that the makers of Lutimax sells too and next time I will get from them .Olga> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.> > > > > > > > > > > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination is a lot better as well> > > > > > > > > > > > Olga> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6141 (20110521) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com

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This looks like a very expensive supplement by my calculations. You are giving 1 full teaspoon per day, which is about 5 grams. The website says it costs about $70 for 30 grams. That means you only get 6 days of product for $70 or $350 per month!Does that sound about right?To:

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We are using Lutimax only not because I wanted to try that one but becuse the company sent me the wrong one.

My son does not take many suplements at the moment and is doing well.

I don't think Enzoprofessional and Lutimax interfere with supplements.

My son has Lutimax(1/2 teaspooon) on waking 1/2 hour before breakfast and at 4 pm when he return from school. Also he has 2 caps. of Enzoprofessional with breakfast and early dinner (4.30pm) plus all other supplements and everything has been fine.

Lutimax is recommended to give before meals but enzoprofessional I give it after food.

Another thing I have noticed also is that we have not had those bad colds we use to get, here it has been extremely cold for the last month almost winter type and still no signs of cold on any of us.

I Think Enzo helps to strenght the immune system.

Olga

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The product is expensive but is working for my 11 years old and we are happy

with the results we are seen.

Other people are noticing the improvements on him too, plus we don't pay

expensive fees in doctors so that gives us the opportunity to spend on his

supplements and good nutrition.

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My son is 11 and weights 38kg and is having 1/2teaspoon twice a day.

I think Lutimax is working on him because he has been taking Enzoprofessional

for 3 months now and that has helped him to improve blood circulation, decrease

inflamation, strenght his immune system and improve his gross and fine motor

skill so with the introduction of Lutimax things just better for him.

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goes to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing

particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of

things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations

with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better

reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.

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that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so

I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.

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play downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand

coordination is a lot better as well

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I also had a bad experience with Life Extensions and would never order from them again. They took forever to send the Lutimax I ordered, when I called them up they lied to me and said that I had not ordered the product from them but from another company called Life Extensions!!!. I am disgusted with the way they do business and would never order from them again. Be careful.

Elena--- Στις Σάβ., 21/05/11, ο/η Anne Mears έγÏαψε:

Από: Anne Mears Θέμα: RE: Re: LutimaxΠÏος: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ΗμεÏομηνία: Σάββατο, 21 Μάιος 2011, 23:41

Sorry you had such a bad experience with Life Extension. I have been doing business with Life Extension Foundation (not sure if it is the same company you are talking about as Life Extension Vitamins) for many years and have never had a problem with misuse of my credit card or inaccurate delivery of my order.

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From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of olga.antonelloSent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 3:07 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Lutimax

,I got it from Life Extension Vitamins, but I would never ever buy anything from that company again. I ordered 2 bottles of Lutimax with L-theanine and they sent me Lutimax only, they withdraw extra money from my credit card without my knowledge and authorization and when I complainened to them the first email was full of excuses and lies, they said they did it because they sent my parcel express which was not true because when I got it the parcel was sent as ordinary mail, then when I told them that I was going to lodge a complain with the bank to recup my money they started sending me all sort of abusive emails saying that I had no right to call them dishonest and lyers because alt hey did did was to try to help me out.Please anyone don't ever order from them, as they are thieves and very abusive company, other people from the customer views report that the company even took money from their credit card in other

occasions when they did not order products.I found out that the makers of Lutimax sells too and next time I will get from them .Olga> > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > > > My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.> > > > > > > > > > > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play downball(catches a very small ball with one hand

only) his eye hand coordination is a lot better as well> > > > > > > > > > > > Olga> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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There are two companies that start with Life Extension.  One is Life Extension Vitamins, which carries Lutimax; and the other is Life Extension Foundation, which does not carry Lutimax.  If you ordered Lutimax, and called Life Extension Foundation, they would have been correct in telling you that you ordered from Life Extension Vitamins, since the Foundation does not carry Lutimax.  I have had no problems in dealing with Life Extension Foundation, and will continue to do business with them. However, I am hesitant to do any business with Life Extension Vitamins given the reports that have been expressed on this site.  Just do not get the two similar sounding businesses confused.  One is a good business, the other is not a good business.  Life Extension Foundation website is www.lef.org  Check it out for yourself.  Search for Lutimax, and it will tell you that it cannot be found. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of Elena PolyzosSent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 8:42 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: RE: Re: Lutimax I also had a bad experience with Life Extensions and would never order from them again. They took forever to send the Lutimax I ordered, when I called them up they lied to me and said that I had not ordered the product from them but from another company called Life Extensions!!!. I am disgusted with the way they do business and would never order from them again. Be careful. Elena--- Στις Σάβ., 21/05/11, ο/η Anne Mears έγÏαψε:Από: Anne Mears Θέμα: RE: Re: LutimaxΠÏος: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ΗμεÏομηνία: Σάββατο, 21 Μάιος 2011, 23:41 Sorry you had such a bad experience with Life Extension. I have been doing business with Life Extension Foundation (not sure if it is the same company you are talking about as Life Extension Vitamins) for many years and have never had a problem with misuse of my credit card or inaccurate delivery of my order. Anne M., BSN, MSN/IH, RNmcfighter@... From: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism [mailto:BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism ] On Behalf Of olga.antonelloSent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 3:07 PMTo: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Lutimax ,I got it from Life Extension Vitamins, but I would never ever buy anything from that company again. I ordered 2 bottles of Lutimax with L-theanine and they sent me Lutimax only, they withdraw extra money from my credit card without my knowledge and authorization and when I complainened to them the first email was full of excuses and lies, they said they did it because they sent my parcel express which was not true because when I got it the parcel was sent as ordinary mail, then when I told them that I was going to lodge a complain with the bank to recup my money they started sending me all sort of abusive emails saying that I had no right to call them dishonest and lyers because alt hey did did was to try to help me out.Please anyone don't ever order from them, as they are thieves and very abusive company, other people from the customer views report that the company even took money from their credit card in other occasions when they did not order products.I found out that the makers of Lutimax sells too and next time I will get from them .Olga> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.> > > > > > > > > > > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. 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You are right Anne, they are two different companies and the best thing to do is

to stay right away from them.

The people running this company are abusive, offensive, thieves that like to

take money away from customers and then they treat you like if you are the

guilty party, they make you feel guilty and put you down.

I reported them to my bank and have sent all the abusive emails they sent me and

also to other places so they can be investigated.

Don't ever go near that company.

Olga

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to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing

particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of

things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations

with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better

reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.

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that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so

I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.

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play downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand

coordination is a lot better as well

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I definitely called Life Extenstion Vitamins - I print every order I place through the net and I definitely ordered from them. They just gave me a hard time about tracking my order and were rude and uncooperative. This was the first time I ever had a bad experience when ordering a supplement. First time for everything I suppose, but I would never order from them again.--- Στις ΚυÏ., 22/05/11, ο/η olga.antonello έγÏαψε:

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You are right Anne, they are two different companies and the best thing to do is to stay right away from them.The people running this company are abusive, offensive, thieves that like to take money away from customers and then they treat you like if you are the guilty party, they make you feel guilty and put you down.I reported them to my bank and have sent all the abusive emails they sent me and also to other places so they can be investigated.Don't ever go near that company.Olga> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son

has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination is a

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I want to try lutimax and Enzo on my son. Couldc you let me know where to buy

both of them?

Thanks,

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> > >school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing

particularly

> > >language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and

> > >situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with

lots of

> > >meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading

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coordination

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na, I got a big gut kid and he's done fine on lutimax and lutien...going

to add PRL pine bark today. And I do think I like this much better than the

SPEAK prduct.

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Thanks !

Have you seen any changes in his gut issues since starting Lutimax? I'm

wondering if it decreases gut inflammation. What is the speak product you are

referring to?

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Olga and others who have tried the Lutimax,

Could you tell me how long you have used the Lutimax and when did you start

seeing the improvements. I started my son on Lutimax only 2 weeks ago and since

then he is having hard time going to bed in the evening. I am wondering if this

is because of the Lutimax, have you noticed anything similar with your kids in

the beginning? For instance my son used to go to bed around 8 - 8:30pm and fall

asleep immediately. Now lately he falls asleep around 11pm and simply around

8-8:30pm he is still very awake and full with energy. We haven't seen any

positives yet from the Lutimax, I am hoping to see also something with language

as my son is still non-verbal.

Thanks,

Krassi

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> My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to school

from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly

language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and

situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of

meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and

understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.

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> His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his

social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think

the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.

>

> Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play

downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination

is a lot better as well

>

> Olga

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My three year old boy has been on Lutimax for two weeks. The first improvements

we saw were about 4 hours after the first dose: he made eye contact with and

spoke to a cousin for the first time. However, that dose (1/4 t) seemed to

increase seizures, so he is now on 1/8 t, and only 3x/day. The improvements are

somewhat less on the lower dose, but have been pretty consistent - more

language, plays with his sister (ignored her before), happier. Still not

responding to his name or following directions.

We'll be increasing the dose again tomorrow, since the seizures have gone back

down and even decreased from where they were before we started. I am

remembering that seizures can be autoimmune, too. It would be great if, over

time, the seizures would go away with this.

Bethany

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> > My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to

school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly

language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and

situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of

meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and

understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.

> >

> > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his

social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think

the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.

> >

> > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play

downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination

is a lot better as well

> >

> > Olga

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Krassi,

I forgot the mention that we give the last dose around 4-5 pm, and though he has

been a lot more active (at first he was hyperactive), sleep is ok.

Bethany

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> > > My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to

school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly

language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and

situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of

meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and

understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.

> > >

> > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his

social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think

the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.

> > >

> > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play

downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination

is a lot better as well

> > >

> > > Olga

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Also - we give the theanine seperately in the evening(the Lutimax that we give

in the daytime does NOT have theanine in it). That really helps with sleep. We

give 1/8 t of theanine without the Lutimax at about 8pm.

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> > > > My son has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to

school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly

language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and

situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of

meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and

understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.

> > > >

> > > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that

his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I

think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.

> > > >

> > > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play

downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination

is a lot better as well

> > > >

> > > > Olga

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FYI , Lutimax can also be ordered from www.spectrumsupplements.comThanks,Sent from my iPad

I definitely called Life Extenstion Vitamins - I print every order I place through the net and I definitely ordered from them. They just gave me a hard time about tracking my order and were rude and uncooperative. This was the first time I ever had a bad experience when ordering a supplement. First time for everything I suppose, but I would never order from them again.--- Στις ΚυÏ., 22/05/11, ο/η olga.antonello έγÏαψε:

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has only been on it for a few days (twice a day) as he goes to school from 830am to 330pm and the results we have seen are amazing particularly language: now he is asking for clarification and explanation of things and situations which was hard for him to do, having long conversations with lots of meaning and sense, watching kids movies with more interest, better reading and understanding of what he reads. Now he is even dream recalling.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > His teacher told me that he is improving in leaps and bounds and that his social skills are very good comparing to the beginning of the year, so I think the product is doing it job together with enzoprofessional.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also his fine and gross motor skills are much better. Now he can play downball(catches a very small ball with one hand only) his eye hand coordination is a

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Thank you for all your replies. I also give the Lutimax only in the morning -

first dose 1/4 teaspoon upon waking up before food (he was only on this dose for

the first one week) and second and last dose around 11:30am before lunch. I

don't give anything later because I didn't want to effect his sleep in the

evening. Now reading your posts that most people give also a 3rd dose in the

afternoon and still your kids have good sleep makes me think that my son's

problem with going to bed is not related with Lutimax. He tested very good with

the ART testing for Lutimax, but I haven't seen any of the gains that everybody

here is reporting, so I am puzzled as usual. I am still considering trying few

more months this supplement because in the studies I read it says that sometimes

takes up to 6 months to see the anti-inflammatory benefits.

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> Krassi, when we did theanine and same with zen...only in the am and after

school.

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Dawn,

I am using the following computer program with my boys:

For Literacy we use: COMPUTHERA which is an excellent program for reading,

vowels, spelling and book reading stories.

We paid $130 a few years ago and didn't use it for a while because my son was

not interested but now we are making the most of it.

We are also using less expensive ones (bought here in books shops) but still

very good : My first Reading and spelling words by Eureka Multimedia and

distibuted by Nodtronics (only $9.95) and can be bought from

AussieKidsSoftware.com.au for very good low cost. They also have other software

that could be very useful.

We also have Clicker 5. This program helps my son to make sentences and also

learnt about science, math, literacy and lots more.

For Math we bought A Computer Classroom at home by EDALIVE and got it from

AussieKidsSoftware.

But you can have a look in USA(we are in Australia ) for Educational software

for kids for special needs.

Also your local library is a good place to look for Educational software as they

have very good valuable resources. We normally borrow them for a month to give

our software a break and expose him to something new.

We use different CD roms to expose him to a variety of ways of teaching and

learning and he is enjoying it.

My son is learning a lot from all the computer software we have been using

lately as his brain seems to be now more ready to absorb what he is tought.

Olga

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> Olga,

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> What is the name of the computer program your son is using? I am interested

in finding a good one for my thirteen year old daughter, who has moderate

autism.

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> Thank You,

> Dawn

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